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O'Neill Honestly Has No Idea

Strange title, but that's basically the answer to the question 'where will we be in a year's time.'

Speaking exclusive to Sultana Sports, O'Neill told Darrell Currie that he has fears about Man City and Spurs going into next season as he expects them to be up there challenging the Top 4 aswell.

'If you look at Manchester City, they have the wherewithal to be really big players next season.

'You look at Tottenham Hotspur, who spent a lot of money in January time just to get out of trouble. Their rise has been terrific and next season they will be setting their sights very high again.'

Man City maybe, but Spurs are expected to break the Top 4 every season and they always struggle to break wind, let alone anything else.

In typical style O'Neill also talked about not breaking the bank or wasting any of Lerner's money in a bid to improve our strength and depth.

'I don't mind taking a risk and paying slightly over the odds for someone, as in the case of Ashley Young. If we were to sell him, which we would not be doing, you would quadruple your money if that's the case.

'I'm in it to try and make it work under the parameters of which I have been given and that is the whole point.

'I don't think in this financial age we're in at the moment that people can just throw things at it and not expect some kind of repercussion.

'The owner is trying to improve the facilities as it's a tangible way of making progress. If we make the facilities better for the fan to come here and enjoy and, if the football is good as well, hopefully they'll stay.

'We've housed 40,000 fans for the past two seasons so we must be doing something right.'

The subject of fans was raised aswell sadly.

'Fans wouldn't be fans if they didn't enjoy moaning. It's part of the game. You get it at Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Emirates Stadium. It doesn't really matter so that's not a problem.

'Mr Lerner is delighted with the fans, regardless of who is criticising or not.

'If you pay your money, you're entitled to criticise.'

Oh so now we enjoy moaning. We enjoy seeing a capitulation in domestic and European cup competitions. We enjoy seeing players having no idea where they are meant to be playing in games. We enjoy seeing unfit, and out of form players stuck by when we have other options.

Yeah ok but at least he accepts we are entitled to do so.

So it's fitting to end with something even the fans agree with Martin on.

The question of where will we be in a year's time:

'I've no idea. Honestly.'

Neither have we Martin, but we'll enjoy the ride nontheless, as fans it's what we do....well that and moan of course.




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The Journalist

Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday April 14 2009

Time: 3:25PM

Your Comments

What ever you say about us, spurs will always be as likely as any other team to break into the top 4. We have finished 5th twice in the last three seasons, including a season were we were 4th till the last day of the season. We have made it to wembley twice in 2 seasons and trashed Arsenal 5-1 and outplayed chelsea in the final to win the league cup last season. We were very unlucky to loose against Manu on penalities this season. We are the only team to have qualified for the Eufa cup in all of the past 4 seasons and despite manking the worst start to the season in the history of the club(2 points after 8 games),it looks like we will qualify again. We are the only team who are unbeaten against the so called Big 4 this season.Our squad player to player is valued about 40 million higher than liverpool,just 5 million less than Manu and 20million below chelsea and astronomically higher than arsenal. We have the 3rd most valued squad in the league. We have 23 full internationals in our first team squad,i am not even sure if your squad is that big. Furthermore we will spend atleast upto 40 million in the summer and strenghten our squad. Anybody other than the Big 4 care to Compete? That is why we will be as likely as any team to break into the top 4 no matter how bad a season we have had.
Yid_from_India
^^ beautifully modest, as you would expect from a spuds fan. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that your 'likely' to be in Europe again next year?? Plus your about to have the record of finishing in the top 5 twice in the last 4 seasons.
Hitman
Yep, it must be wonderful to be a spud, to have such an expensive, massive squad, with such massive International players, with such massive egos, with such massive expectations, and never get anywhere, still ending up behind one of the smallest squads in the Premiership : ) It's not what you've got Yid, it's how you use it that counts, UTV
steff_the_villan
Hitman, i said we are likely to be in europe again next season as we are 3 points off 7th after we beat the spammers(who currently occupy 7th). We are also one of the form teams in the league as we have won 5 of our last 7 games and both fulham and west spam have a tough fixture list while we have a comparitivly easy one and two 5th places in 4 seasons is still a better record than anybody else. We also puhed arsenal far more than you have done this season, on both the occasions.
Yid_from_India
love the 'fans wouldn't be fans if they weren't moaning' he should listen to his lot (ie managers) boy oh boy that lot can moan for England... or in Wengers case France, or in Rafa's case... oh sod it, you get the idea! lol
The Fear
don't quite get the Arsenal jibe, we took 4 points off 'em this season.
Jongekki
How many times has 'Arry broken into the top 4 in his 20 years of management???? Spuz have never finished in the top 6 or bottom 6 of the league before their lucky 5th place 2 years in a row after spending more than every other team except the top 3. "Our squad player to player is valued about 40 million higher than liverpool,just 5 million less than Manu" Only a Spuz fan would believe their own hype. We have had a couple of sensible Spuz fans around recently as they have been brought down to earth by their pathetic excuse for a season but THIS BLIND OVEROPTIMISM is what we have come to expect from the Yids over the years and they are back as soon as they get a couple of wins. LOL
Villan444
Villan444, your argument is stupid. Arry has never managed a really big club or a club with ambitions of breaking into the top 4. Has Martin oneill Broken into the top 4? no. How can you be lucky for 2 straight seasons? we Deservede the two 5th spots and we were 4th till the last day of the season where we had a simple task of beating the hammers and we had a food poisioning incident in the hotel the players were staying and practically feilded a reserve team against west ham and got beat. If anybody was lucky ,it was arsenal. Anyway if our Back to back 5th place was lucky then what does it make your 5th place this season?The squad Value thing is not a hype. The prices of all the premier league squads was calculated and published recently and i am not making it up on my own.If you want you are more than welcome to look it up.
Yid_from_India
Got to love the spuds fans, how deluded can they be. No team has played better at our ground this season than Aston Villa who throughly deserved the win. Spuds were completely outplayed at the Emirates but got extremely lucky on the night (although I will credit them with actually showing enough heart to come back for once). Any team can go out & overspend on average players like spurs do & then claim their squad value is such & such an amount, the fact is Arsenal's squad may have cost a lot less than spurs but ask any neutral fan & they would pay much more to buy most of Arsenal's squad than they would Spurs. As for the comment about spuds spending 40+ million this summer, thats complete rubbish. The only way spuds will spend anything like that is if they sell players first, the club as of the last accounts were 40 million in debt & that doesn't include any of the January buys, so actually the club are somewhere around 70-80 million in debt. Redknapp said only a few weeks back that he'll be looking for free signings & loans in the summer.
Ashburton Gooner
villan444 check this link out tomkins-blogs.typepad.com/paul_tomkins_blog/2009/03/the-cost-of-premiership-squads.html
Yid_from_India
Struggle to break wind?? lol good one that. We came alot closer to that elusive top4 spot than you guys ever have, twice. A dose of reality is needed i think!
HuddersfieldYiddo
Ashburton Gonner, Please Know the facts before you just type Rubbish.We are one of the very few clubs in the BPL to be dept free. Mate we will spend 40million weather you like it or not. Did you know we spent 53million in january,higher than Mancity and i again repeat ,we are still dept free. We only spend the revenue we recieve. We do receive a lot of revenue,11th highest in the world to be presice(richest team not to be playing champions league football),and we are the team in the top 20 with the smallest ground capacity. this is a testiment to our worldwide fanbase.
Yid_from_India
Again i am not making things up. Check it up,
Yid_from_India
YFI- Go check spuds latest accounts before you talk rubbish, spurs actual debt as of 31/12/2008 was 40.1 million, since then you spent 30-40 million in January which wasn't included in those accounts, so that leaves a figure of 70-80 million of debt.
Ashburton Gooner
Ferk me these Spurs fans love the Vital Villa site
Villan57
It might be what your squad cost yid, but what it cost and what it is worth are two different things. For christ sake your keeper cost 7 million and is a popular as Gary Gliiter in a play school. Keane is back with you because he wasn't good enough for a big club. Your best player can only play 10 games a season and wuppty doo for finishing 5th twice. Other than that you have failed to ever be in the top (or bottom for that matter) six since the formation of the Premier League. You are with out doubt the most average club going with laughable expectations of grandeur. Harry the twitcher has relegated more clubs than he has won (that will be a grand total of 1 trophy by the way) trophies with. However as Spuds, along with most of the media owners in the UK, are of the 4 by 2 persuasion, you get undesreved coverage and then believe your own hype. Clueless is the word that most springs to mind. And being such a big club, why was your little ground 20% empty for the League cup game against Murderpool this season?
voiceoftheholte
Just because Yid From India decided to have a rant doesnt give you the excuse to comprehensively slate our club. All clubs have moronic fans and clearly your no exception with regards to Villain444 whos been slating us for months. Blind OVEROPTIMISM in my book PAL is 2months ago expecting to finish 4th with Emile Heskey and John Carew in your first XI. Villa have had a good season and now your expectation level is much higher. Welcome to our world, and its not pretty. Ive noticed your own players have started getting booed and your miracle worker manager is getting heavily criticised. Oh and your fans are getting petty and deluded. This is like looking at Spurs 2years ago (without Emile Heskey) I understand many Spurs fans on here seem deluded but some of you lads need to take a good luck at yourselves. You have had a fine 7months and now some of you think youre way ahead of the likes of us despite your squad being nowhere near as strong as ours. Infact i expect ONeill to come after the likes of Darren Bent and Huddlestone in the summer despite them being our reserves.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Here's the sentence from those accounts I just spoke about:- "This sustained investment has taken a number of years and it is a credit to the Club that net debt at 31 December 2008, after this sustained period of investment, stood at only 40.1m." Just incase you still don't believe it the website is http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uploads/assets/docstore/interim_results_a_190309.pdf & the line above about the debt is on page 2 right above where it says in bold On The Pitch.
Ashburton Gooner
and voiceoftheholte i could start replying about our history/fanbase/new 60,000 stadium around the corner blah blah, but youre right. Harrys *****e. Were a small club, much smaller than Villa. Our reputation as a big club is all a media conspiracy blinding the eyes of the country away from the midlands and our grounds always empty thats why were building a 60,000 stadium - were gonna fill the extra seats with blow up dolls and announce a newsponsorship deal with Ann Summers. Oh and calling Liverpool "Murderpool" the day before the hillsboro disaster - nice touch that one!
HuddersfieldYiddo
HY - Haven't you seen that spuds have reduced the capacity already down to 58,000 for the new stadium. By the time it's built it'll probably be even less.
Ashburton Gooner
Exactly,Huddersfieldyiddo hit the nail on the head. you are where we were 2or 3 seasons ago, I see a lot of things happening to villa that are very similar to what hapeened to tottneham,slowly expectations will rise. and i know that most of you guys slating me(even the deluded Gonner) will agree when i say we are under acheiving at the moment and we are good enough to compete with the likes of yourself and everton .The main thing that angered me about this article is that aurthor implied that city will challenge the top 4 next season but spurs wont. How is that practicle. Despite having limitless funds,we even do not know who will be mancity's manager next season. I apologize or my earlier rant but i am convinced that we have the potentiel to compete with the likes of yourself and everton next season. Martin oneill is a smart man and he obviously sees us as a threat.
Yid_from_India
How many of you truly believe that Spurs have no chance of competing with Astonvilla,Everton or Mancity,next season?
Yid_from_India
Ashburton Gooner,Why dont you just pop over to the arsenal website and check what dept you are in?
Yid_from_India
Oh heaven forbid Mr Gooner, 58,400 well spotted. Its to make the bowl tighter so your much closer to the pitch so it doesnt become a souless library like your stadium. And im not joking either. Were using the same architects and thats the reason.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Aston Villa are a well run club & assuming they build on the limited success of this season then they will be biggest threat to the top 4. Everton aren't a real threat purely because they don't have the cash to invest, if they did then they would also be front runners with Villa. Man City are a bit of a joke at present so even with the money it'll take more than that to bring them right up. I do agree spuds have under achieved this season but they still aren't up with the top 6 in my opinion. As for being deluded, well its funny how I provide proof of your debt but you're the one who ignores it, I think you'll find that makes you the deluded one not myself.
Ashburton Gooner
I totally agree Villa are most likely next season
HuddersfieldYiddo
Ashburton Gonner,You are still the deluded one as you fail to answer my question of what level of dept your beloved team is in?
Yid_from_India
HY - if you believe thats the reason then you'll obviously believe anything spuds tell you. Our seating is hardly a mile from the pitch as it is & it's not as if you couldn't have done a further row towards the rear to keep the 60K. The fact is spuds are trying to cut costs because as everyone knows they can't get funding for it anytime soon. YFI - I'm well aware of Arsenal's debt but ours isn't due to overspending on average players like yourselves, it's also well structured over 23 years now. Spuds have 70-80 million of debt because for the most part they buy inadequate players.
Ashburton Gooner
YFI- Also I wasn't the one who came to Villa's site saying Arsenal would spend upwards of 40+ million on players. You spouted rubbish without even knowing the debt situation at your supposed club.
Ashburton Gooner
Oh right so weve lost 1,600 seats because we cant afford them. And not because of this: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7500640 Third paragraph down
HuddersfieldYiddo
Look if you want to debate then sound but when you state that weve cut 1,600 seats to cut costs when the truth is were increasing the capacity to increase revenue and also adding an ice rink and massive public square, then it makes you look biased against us and abit silly. 1,600 have been cut to tighten the bowl - fact. Indirect response to your stadium being souless. Also our stadium financial plan wont be reliant on housing schmes and constant CL football unlike your plan
HuddersfieldYiddo
You are still the deluded one gonner, Leave away the fact that you still did not mention the level of your dept,i am not wrong in saying that we will spend 30-40million in the summer. you will see in the summer. Harry told the media that he will noy buy without selling for the purpose that other teams wont overprice players when tottenham come along. He said the same thing during january and yet we purchased players worh 50 million and did not sell anybody.
Yid_from_India
extremly well put Huddersfieldyiddo.
Yid_from_India
looks like the deluded gooner has run away
Yid_from_India
Jesus are spuds/gooners sites that bad for banter?! For your info chaps, Randy has got plans to expand VP also. I honestly think its best to build success on as little as possible. Its far more creditable. Greed always backfires in the end and mercenaries always get their own way.
medzy
We've spent more than you, no you've not, yes we have, it's what has made the Premiership so crap. Reading this thread is enough to want to transport myself back to the 1970s or watch non-league football. Unfortunately, being a fan for life, I'm stuck with this modern game. Why the heck can't the bottom 14 clubs money-wise break away unless the big 4 and Spuds and Man City agree to new rules whereby they are allowed no money from TV, only a 24 man squad, and have to play blindfold with their legs tied together.
stennyvilla
Christ, cant you southerners enjoy your lovers tiffs elsewhere? Always feckin moanin...
NorthcliffeBandit
Also huddersfield yiddo, isn't heskey in the England team ahead of any of your players? As for Carew you could check his goalscoring record for confirmation of his quality, or perhaps ask a somewhat bruised and battered Gary Neville.
NorthcliffeBandit
Am I in the right place? I could've sworn this was the Villa page.
Rawlie
These cockneys think they own the world!!! Go argue on your own pages this article is about a team you may never have heard of who have actually won the European cup let alone qualified for it :)
AVNath
You two Spuds should get a room.....
Villan444
lol, dont usually leave a comment just like like to see what people are saying but had to say something. YID_FROM_INDIA you are priceless. Exactly the kind of football fan that i can't stand. Tell me, do you enjoy watching 40 million pounds worth of footballers plying their trade for your reserve outfit??? I see Bentley got two for them last night. Gotta say thats great depth and stability in the squad you have there, and where are they?? Oh yeah 8th. And where are Villa, oh yeah 1st!!! I know reserve team football is essentially pointless to a lot of people but i'm glad that the fact ours is pretty much made up from home grown talent and shows that our club (debt free too by the way) is building foundations to compete with out having to spend stupid amounts on players like spurs. Also you say you are one of the 'form teams' (whatever that means)...look at Villa....we went on a great unbeaten run and then look what happened to us, so don' get too cocky about it. I'm from birmingham currently living in London and i must say it hasn't gone unnoticed what a bunch of nobs the spurs fans are. Plus you and the gunner bloke argue away is if villa are done for this season.....not over yet. I keep telling people anything can happen and if we win all of our remaining games (which we can) and arsenal lose to Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool (which they can) then we finish 4th.
Thom85
Thom85,those players who played for our reserve last night do not play regularly for the reserves and if they did they would probably run away with the title. One more thing you have to understand is that i have a lot of respect for villa and i was sincerely rooting for villa to displace the scum from the 4th spot. I respect what oneill has done and admire your philosophy.But i will not stand here being quiet when people say tottenham cant compete with villa,Everton and City. You may be the closest to breaking into the top 4 and you are probably the no1 contenders for the 4th spot but dont tell me that while city and everton have a chance, tottenham dont. We do have a chance and we do have a good enough team to be able to do it.
Yid_from_India
In response to the article I am very pleased with the progress Villa have made under Martin O'Neill. He has filled the team with players that want to play for the club, and with players like Ashley Young, Milner and Gabby not having reached the peak of their careers, i would say the future looks very bright.
andrew144
hahaha....Spurs fans on Villa sites. Welcome lads. I don't think I've ever been on a Spurs site!
evoflash
I can't say i agree that you would run away with the reserve title if there was consistency. I get what your saying but i wont stand by and be quiet when people start to write us off either. Having such an expensive squad isn't something you should be proud of though, i do believe that yes next year you could be a threat. But i don't know i'm not convinced. When you spent heavily prior to this season i was thinking "watch out for spurs they got Modric (who i was desperate for us to sign) they could break it this season". Then prior to the 2007-2008 season you spent heavily on quality like Bent and Bale, still with the likes of Keane, Berbatov, Defoe and such, and again back then i remember thinking "spurs man, they could push for the title with a squad like that". Yet both times you have ended up in relegation scraps until at least Febuary. Now while i would not begrudge you 4th spot, as i have nothing against spurs you need to realize that the set up you have isn't working. Harry can do a good job given time but he needs a clear out. A big one too. Build a squad around Modric, Lennon, Woodgate....the players that Harry has faith in. Get rid of the Deadwood that Harry obviously doesn't want and wouldn't have spent money on in the first place. Then your new Redknapp selected squad can blend together and push on next season. It doesn't matter how much money you have, look at Man city. What all clubs need is foundations, stability then money then hopefully success. And i'm sure given time you could push the top four but as i said before, not with the set up you have now. Personally i think getting rid of Jol was a HUGE mistake. HUGE. P.s I was sincerely routing for you in the league cup too, Ipods ey?
Thom85
well said Tom85
Pablo1978
haha spurs fans crack me up
ric112
Spurs should be a threat with the money available but i think Man city are the ones to watch. Greedy owners with endless pockets. Not a good combo. Still confident we'll be a better side though. The right sort of characters and the right sort of philosophies......
medzy
 

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