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Villa In Mass Summer Clearout? Doubt It!

Villa In Mass Summer Clearout?  Doubt It!

There is an article in the News of the World today, you can read it in full here: Click Here
It is basically, as far as I can see, a very very silly bit of reporting. It is suggesting that Martin O'Neill will be forced to trim the squad if we don't finish 4th.

Yup, you read it right, TRIM THE SQUAD. The tiny squad, the squad not big enough to compete on all fronts and the squad that the Villa are so hard at work to build.


Martin O'Neill has already said over the weekend that he hasn't even talked budgets for next season with Villa owner Randy Lerner so how on earth would the News of the World, or any other paper for that matter, know that we've got to trim the squad?! Are we to believe that Villa are in financial trouble? Sorry, we don't have an open cheque book like Abramovich offered Chelsea when he first came but there is funding there and we don't carry debt. It is a position many clubs would die to be in, possibly including Manchester United who, if you believe reports today, have £1.1billion of debt to clear in the next decade!

Some clubs could well go bust in these harsh economic times. Villa is not one of them.

The report says Villa will listen to offers for the following, so lets look how likely this is:

Nigel Reo-Coker - possible but only at a decent price. Hokey Cokey hasn't been happy being moved all over the pitch and especially being made to look a total plonker at right-back, a position he is not best suited.

John Carew - high earner, inconsistent, but on his day a great player. I've thought for a while the rift over the Ajax situation could prove to be irepricable but his recent form and the fact he is now being played again might now show that it has been settled. He is a bit high maintenance and he is inconsistent, so I can't see this player getting his quoted wish of ending his career at Villa, but without a stunning summer and at least two striker purchases, I'm no longer sure - as I was earlier in the season - that he'll be off.

Nicky Shorey - undecided. He's been brought in and then humiliated by the manager. Surely he'll want to prove a point but then we do have Wilfred Bouma returning. Question is after a season out, how quickly will Wilf be back to top form - is top form guaranteed? I'd love to think we'll see Shorey start every game up to the end of the season and is in the Villa shirt again next season. If I was him I'd not really blame him if he wanted out after some very shoddy treatment though.

Marlon Harewood - MON often talks about wanting quality not quantity. Buying Harewood (Salifou can be chucked in there as well) argues with that point. A stupid purchase in the first place and a player not the grade for Villa. So of course he'll be sold if they can get some funds for him. Another player that MON has brought in and humiliated by sitting him on the bench and never bringing him on. He is a good Championship grade player and will surely find a club where he can get first team football.

Craig Gardner - unlikely, he won't be a top earner and is a good all round utility player. Only way he'll be sold is if we do buy enough quality in order to make his task of breaking into the first team impossible, then he will be moved on for his own good to a club where he will get regular football.

Zat Knight - why would he be sold UNLESS we are bringing in another higher quality defender? Martin Laursen sadly is struggling with injury problems again we need cover. Personally I'd NEVER have brought him in when you think that Gary Cahill was shown the door despite such obvious talent but to be fair to Zat, in the latter half of this season he has shown some good form. Still isn't the next level though and this is where I argue with MON saying he wants quality not quantity. You have to prove that by actions not words.

He has said he's not spoken to Randy about budgets but did say that the Villa owner knows it is tough to break the top four adding 'We know what we've got to do, although I agree with him that this is not the time to be putting the club in financial jeopardy for a short-term gain. With a bit of luck, we'll be in Europe next season and we'll attract more quality to the club.'

'People can be disappointed we're not in the top four, but there's been a great improvement here. The progress we're making means the vital next step is to do what the top four have been doing year in, year out. They're in contention every season. These clubs have experience - and years of it - on us. It's up to Villa to improve at such a rate that we're up there a year or two before we should be.'

Suppose we have to wait until the end of the season to see if there is a 'great improvement' don't we? We've not improved in the Cups and if we are in the Uefa or whatever it is called next season, after what happened this.....? We've finished 6th before under different managers, it is pushing on that has long been our problem!

In the Telegraph and the Birmingham Mail he warned that Villa can't compete financially with Manchester United... fair enough on that although again, they are in £1.1b of debt, the weight of that has to cause problems at some point! He added,

'We are in there (the Prem) against Arsenal who house 60,000. Then we are against the other two who have our gates but not only have the experience behind them but a lot of money at it as well. We won`t be able to compete financially. We are trying to run this as a business at this minute. That is difficult especially in this day and age. But I think that is part of the excitement of it all. You have to try and find other ways to compete. You`d maybe hope in time that we can do. I don`t think we`ll ever be up there in finance terms but it doesn`t mean you cannot compete in other ways.'

Funny old game, must admit I'm falling out of love with what used to be a great division. If all clubs can hope to do is finish 4th as 'success' (which I understand financially it is) and you have to 'throw' cups in order to get it (and then fail anyway), then.............? Hmmm.

Writer:J P Fear
Date:Sunday April 12 2009
Time: 11:34AM


For our own sake we need to keep everyone except salifou and Marewood. If anyone moans get rid of them too although i hope they dont. Villas a great club to be at right now so if anyone leaves itll be for a top4 club or for they're own greed. get the cheque book out Randy and replace Barry the second he leaves or we'll be in the s.h.i.t
12/04/2009 12:15:00
Finishing 4th is not only a success in financial terms but also in Footballing terms. All players want to play against the best and the champions league is at the moment the pinnacle of club football so all players want to play in it. Dont tell me you would not like to see a Villa vs Barcelona at Villa park. Anyway Money is not everything in football. Take it from me , spurs spend atleast 50 -60 million every window and we even outspent mancity in jan but look were we are. Some would say we pay too much for players but that will always be the case when you dont play champions league football. For example Man utd were liked with Bently for 12 million but we came in and we brought him for 16 million, similarly we purchased palacios for 14 million while united were close to buying him for 11 million and same with Bent,Modric,Bale,Hutton,Defoe,pavlyuchenco etc. Arshavin was very close to comming to tottenham in the summar for 24 million but in the final day of the window there was disagreement over a million or so pounds much to Arshavin's Disgust. But he ended up moving to the scum in jan for half that price which tells you that if you aim to buy the palyers with enough quality to play for the big 4 you often have to pay double price. So you either have to be mancity with unlimited funds or be playing champions league football to buy top players at normal price. So to sum up, my point is even if you had a additional 30 or 40 million added to your transfer budget every season ,it would still be difficult for you to break into the top 4.
12/04/2009 12:15:00
why do people buy papers like the NOTW they have been telling lies for decades
12/04/2009 12:15:00
Having the worst defensive record in the top half of the table we need to strengthen with quality players and if that means offloading some then so be it. We need to concede about 20 goals a season less to start even thinking about challenging the top 4, let alone starting to score more.
Hoss The Villain
12/04/2009 13:40:00
I don't think there will be an enforced clearout, as I'm absolutely certain that we haven't budgeted on qualifying for the Champions League this season. Had we strengthened properly in January, then that might have indicated that we were budgeteing for CL football next season, but then again, had we strengthened in January, I firmly believe we'd have been in with a sniff of the title, rather than being in a position where a home draw against Everton is a 'good' result because it imrpoves our chances of finishing 5th. My worry is that could be an exodus in the summer, led by Gareth Barry, after it has become clear that we won't be playing CL football in the forseeable future. This means that quality players, like Barry and Young, will want to move on to clubs who can provide a stage more fitting for their talents, whilst someone like Reo Coker - who might accept a squad role in a CL outfit - certainly won't accept being an odds'n'sods player in an upper mid-table side. The players who should be leaving are the ones most likely to stay because no bugger will 'ave 'em. I couldn't see a long line of clubs queing up for Sidwell or Heskey's services, given their lack of ability, and the inevitably considerable wages they'll be on. That said, I can't see O'Neill recognising that these signings (and they're not the only ones) were huge mistakes. All rather depressing really.
12/04/2009 16:18:00
NOTW post a load of rubbish anyway. Barry is probably gonna go, so we just buy a better player. if any of the others go, bring in soome youth players or buy some quality
12/04/2009 18:21:00
have to say that I read the article and thought it was total rubbish, or at least from your perspective I hope so. It seems apparentthat instead of trimming, you have to add to your squad to maintain your position, let alone progress.
12/04/2009 18:26:00
Cant see this, it just doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up. We're attempting to build and strengthen, not trim and return to ground zero. Mr Lerner will be well aware of whats needed after the experiences of this campaign, as obviously will MON. Making cut backs certainly isn't the way forward. We have to push on, strengthen and develop the squad, improve both the numbers and the quality.
13/04/2009 05:35:00
So many holes in this report, it wont surely even warrant a denial or response from within Villa Park.
13/04/2009 05:37:00
jimjim96, you're living in a fantasy world if you think we'll buy a player who begins to approach Barry's quality. I think Fabregas will be as good as Barry in a couple of years time, for example, but even he is a complete fantasy signing. When names like Jenas are bandied around as a potential replacement for Barry, one begins to question one's sanity (and then the sanity of others!). Players like Defour and Huddlestone have potential, but would be doing extremely well to become 75% of the player Barry is.
13/04/2009 13:50:00
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