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MON Wants Time To Bring Back Glory Days

MON Wants Time To Bring Back Glory Days

Phew....! Must admit when I first saw an article on Setanta I thought Martin O'Neill had gone off on one and had another go at the fans, however it seems not, apart from him asking for more patience, which is fair enough!

Maybe all 'sides' need to take a step back and just relax a bit, enjoy the end of the season, the challenge is still there, 4th is still possible albeit tough and there is still 5th place to play for.

Looks like the press might try to spin this as the Villa having another go at us but from the quotes I've read in the Mirror, I don't think that is really the case.

It is never a good thing to see the boss have a go at fans, especially loyal and long suffering fans like the claret and blue army. Fans do pay a lot of money and have a right to have the odd whine don't they? This shouldn't deflect from what the manager is doing and there really should be little to no reason for the manager to react. Just look where having a go at fans got David O'Leary. Whatever is 'he' doing now!? But when there isn't a major issue, it seems a shame when the press want to make one.

Speaking in an article in the Daily Mirror he says that the club was 'unbearable' under Doug and remembers it wasn't that long ago fans were 'putting up all sorts of signs (against the regime). I’m not saying everything is absolutely right but we’re trying to improve the team.'

Again in the The Mirror he adds whilst talking to the 300 at the Moscow 'apology' meal:

'We want to bring the club round to its former glory. It might not be fast enough for you but I’m hoping to try. And if I don’t improve it in a certain time, the chairman might hire me but the crowd fire me.'

I do quite like that sentence, he obviously is very aware who ultimately judges a manager although I do think in this case Randy is likely to be a chairman much in the Steve Gibson (Middlesbrough owner/chairman) mold where he backs the manager and gives them plenty of time. Then again, if a crowd turn, that is usually that for managers. I can't see the fans or chairman turning yet though, MON surely - despite some criticism mostly centering around the Moscow situation - has time? I've not seen anyone in our forum suggest he needs to be sacked, that is for sure.

MON spoke at length at the meal and mentioned our former Chairman Doug Ellis who to be fair some (very few though?) are starting to imply wasn't that bad! MON is yet another manager who shows that he was THAT bad (and those behind the scenes know he was THAT bad AND MORE!)

'I remember seeing Mr Ellis on the Monday after that Arsenal game. He asked me to explain why Martin Laursen came off the bench in the last couple of minutes. I was taken aback because no chairman has ever asked me to explain a decision, as they know they would get short shrift. I was taken aback but knowing he wouldn’t be there much longer, I was very gracious. I said I would never explain as long as he never ever asked me again.'

Just shows, even though it was Doug that brought MON in, there was no way he was coming without knowing the end was in sight and if a takeover hadn't happened, I'm not convinced MON would have lasted long before walking in indignation!

As far as I can see fans are fans, some think he's doing an ace (love that word!) job, others a mixed job and many are just enjoying the ride hoping at some point for things to click in the transfer windows and for us to be able to really cement a top 4 place. There are always worries - and when you've been up and down as much as Villa fans that is bound to be amplified by so much promise this season seemingly just ebbing away isn't it? But I think the club is pushing forward, we've certainly never had it so good off the pitch and the infrastructure has been built to a fantastic level now, just look at Bodymoor Heath training facilities, they match the very best in the world.

Things are positive, whether MON proves to be the messiah only time will tell, I'd say at the end of NEXT season we'll truly know if he is the man and I would imagine - as he seems to be his harshest critic - that he will also know.

Time is never what we want to hear, we all get caught up in the passion and the here and now.. lets hope in a few years time we are all where we want to be...!

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Writer:J P Fear
Date:Thursday April 9 2009
Time: 11:10AM


Good article. It amazes me how people can be so stupid as to suggest things were ok under Ellis, it was a nightmare. Even looking back at pictures of the team in a Hummel kit depresses the life out of me. DOL was an idiot, at least MON has time and respect for his players instead of publicly putting them down on match of the day etc. What i mean is under time i think trophies will be coming and apart from his decision to take Milner off on sunday it was he best i've seen us play in years, if we played like that every week then....... Consistency and defence are key issues for next season, lets stay patient. Remember where Sir Alex Ferguson was after his first 2-3 seasons at Man U anyone?
09/04/2009 11:32:00
I can not understand why he needs to be judged after next season. David Moyes has been at Everton since March 2002, has won nothing, is below the Villa (for the moment at least) and is widely acknowledged by his peers and the fans of his club as the right man for the job. So after 7 years he is below us and we should consider changing OUR manager next year??? The logic of some people astounds me. For the Villa it may not be this year, or next or maybe even the year after, but for the first time since Ron Saunders we have a chance to build this club in to the great, world superpower we want it to be. More importantly it has the potential to be. What will hold it back is the impatience, short sightedness, ignorance and absolute stupidity of some fans.
09/04/2009 12:30:00
Has Moyes had the money O'Neill has then ? Does Moyes have the best owner in the PL over him ? It may have skipped your notice but he's qualified for Europe several times and his team are still in with a good chance of a Wembley show. That's been achieved with an injury list that would have put O'Neill's bench warmers in a relegation battle. We lose 1 cf and 1 lb and collapse. Some fans really do need to get out of O'Neill's arse and think straight.
09/04/2009 13:14:00
voth I couldn't say it any better myself so I won't!!! How people can complain about a period of ten or so matches as much as some of our 'fans' is unbelievable!!
09/04/2009 13:43:00
Moyes has had no money to spend. Baines, Jagielka, Andy Johstone, Yakubu, Howard, Fellaini (£15 million alone), Lescott + many more all arrived for free didn't they? It was 3 years into his reign and they stayed up by the skin of their teeth. And yes he may get to a cup final this year ,but so did we under Gregory so maybe we should get him back?? It shows the benefits of stability in a club. We have been with out a lb and a ch and we have collapsed. What you actually mean is that M'ON has put us up there competing and we have 'collapsed' to 5th. Stop the world, we have collapsed to 5th. Southampton have collapsed, Leeds have all but collapsed, Notts forest like wise. Having a poor few weeks is not collapsing. But these are typical comments from somebody who rarely goes to the games but feels qualified to judge because he was a regular many years ago.
09/04/2009 13:50:00
Well said voiceoftheholte, villa fans are fickle and sumtimes i get fed up with them, Mon is doing a good job and we should stick with him and give him time 5-6 years at least. Avfc48 you really are a plonker who is only happy when u moan, try supporting ur club and manager 4 once!!
09/04/2009 14:16:00
astonsteve, is there any need to call someone a plonker, just for having an opposing opinion to your own? If 48, didnt support the his club, then do you really think he would be on here? People are allowed views, some like O'Neill, some don't. Get over it. The thing that makes me laugh is so many get on their high horse and have a go at people who cricise the manager by getting personal. He is not allowed to say anything about O'Neill, but you are allowed to say something about 48? Here is an idea, don't have a go at your fellow fans, make your point without getting personal.
09/04/2009 14:39:00
young jonah you are correct. There is no need to get personal and people will always differ in opinions. It would be nice if those offereing opinions actually came and supported the club though. We are often subject to the wonderful insight of people who do not even go to the games. A bit like me watching golf on the tv and when a bloke hits a shot in a bunker complaining on the websites that he is useless. I mean fancy hitting a shot in a bunker when he is meant to be on the green and he is probably earning £5 million a year. It shouldn't be allowed, he's rubbish, fancy going in to the bunker when the green is 3 times as big. he is obviously rubbish and needs to get a new coach.
09/04/2009 16:02:00
Come on YJ, the guy is a plonker, not for his dislike of MON but for the snidey way that he expresses his views or has a go at MON and fails to EVER offer an alternative. Of course everyone has different views and they are entitled to them but the guy is only happy when we are losing. He should be supporting the manager if he is a fan, no matter who the manager is.
09/04/2009 16:07:00
A manager will get stick if he doesn`t win for a few games let alone 9 !!! That includes Wenger and Fergie, it`s down to MON to get us back winning and not just talking media-bull, he`s had the money and he`s had 3 years so can he stop using excuses and clouding the current issues by talking about the past.
09/04/2009 16:26:00
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