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Villa Don't Need 9million Gordon

While Aston Villa might need a top-level goalkeeper, fans should not be annoyed if Sunderland sign Hearts shot-stopper Craig Gordon for 9million, as reports suggest will happen.

If any further evidence was needed that transfer fees have gone mad was needed, this is surely it - 9million from a club that, quite frankly, isn't very good at all. Although I've not personally checked, I think that will be the most money ever paid for a Scottish player, and the fact Gordon doesn't play for one of the two decent Scottish teams should say it all.

The news of the signing, assuming it does break, probably comes at a bad time for Villa fans who are still reeling from the signing of West Ham striker Marlon Harewood. But let me let you in on a little secret - while Gordon may be the best Scottish keeper, he is not even the best keeper in Scotland.

That title surely goes to Celtic's Artur Boruc, the Polish international who grabbed the headlines when he saved a penalty in the Champions League against Manchester United to send his club into the last-16. A fee of 9million would be acceptable, for he is arguably one of Europe's top-10 keepers at the moment. Gordon, on the other hand, is never worth more than 5million, even in today's transfer market.

Perhaps not many England-based Villa fans know too much about Scottish football, and to be fair that's a good thing. Personally, being in Ireland I get forced to watch Celtic time and time again, and consequently the other teams they more-often-than-not pummel into the ground. So I feel quite confident when I say it would be great, great news if O'Neill doesn't try and get involved in a bidding war.

Scotland international Gordon will do a good enough job for Sunderland, I'm sure, and I've a lot of respect for Roy Keane. But while he has shown he can motivate players, there are certainly question marks over his transfer dealings and some may argue he is looking as though he may become a chequebook manager.

So are there any keepers out there that Villa should go after? Well, if O'Neill really wants to spend up to 10million on a keeper (ie a Gordon-esque price) his best bet would be putting in a sneaky bid for Artur Boruc - though the Pole has suggested he would only move to the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid or Manchester United, so perhaps we're not far enough along the five-year plan to manage that.

But does it really matter? Thomas Sorensen is a good enough keeper for this season, or until January at least, so perhaps O'Neill should look abroad and bring in a decent youngster for a decent price. If that youngster is good he can take over, if not he can go.

Whatever happens, and even if Villa do have to make do with the current keepers, wasting 9million on the unproven and untested (at a decent level) Gordon would be a reason to blast the boss, not cheer him!




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Writer: DerryVillan Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday July 18 2007

Time: 12:20PM

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Agreed 9 mill to much, Sorenson good enough! if you take everything into account I'm sorry to say he isn't, Jaaskelainen top draw, we must pull out all the stops for this guy.
eltoro
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18/07/2007 12:31:00

I'm sure Jaaskelainen said he wanted to come to us. We should make a move for him, we definately need another keeper and Jaaski's a class player. i'd rather have him than pay 9m for Gordon. Proof again the worlds gone mad.
The Usual Suspect
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18/07/2007 12:35:00

The world has gone mad. As for Jussi...he's good, but can't we make do for a season then get great? Five-year plan could be interpreted as replace keeper now, or replace next season. Tough one.
DerryVillan
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18/07/2007 12:37:00

I think we should sign him.
Pking
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18/07/2007 12:43:00

Id pay it, can we stop ******** around like we are doug ellis and just get the best man for the job - GORDON - who is an excellant keeper.
AVFC_Malachi
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18/07/2007 12:44:00

What does it say for your team if you spend almost half of your transfer budget on a keeper? Daft spending if it happens.
Gordonsleftboot
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18/07/2007 12:45:00

boruc is not a top class keeper , very much like sorenson but younger, gordon is a top class keeper and i think if we are going to improve we are going to need to over spend on players despite their value and worth
meakers
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18/07/2007 12:45:00

Tommy has made a couple of clangers which have cost us points over the years but he is still a good shot stopper and would walk into most prem teams. However, paying 9m for a relatively unproven keeper would be madness. I would rather we spent that kind of money on a good CB or midfielder and keep the search up for the right keeper. Our problems over the seasons Tommy has been keeper haven't been his couple of clangers but our inability to score enough goals.
Hoss The Villain
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18/07/2007 12:47:00

I agree Borucv is vastly overrated by Celtric fans and as for not getting rid of sorryson. We all agreed in the mian he had to go if we were to improve, surely we should get rid, it sums up this summer when it ends up "Well we should keep him he isnt tnat bad". We are supposed to be improving dramticcaly, a top class keeper - who has proved himslef internationally which you failed to mention against the likes of Italy and France with stunning performances - is available who we can obtain and need so we should be getting him no matter what and chalking off the GK position as solved.
AVFC_Malachi
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18/07/2007 12:50:00

If he's as good as everyone is saying he is then 9mill could prove to be a bargain. Surely the fact that he doesn't play for one of the top 2 in Scotland yet can still command such a huge fee, mean he really must be the dogs danglies? Great goalkeepers are few and far between thats why the cream of the crop go for so much cash. Get him in!
DeanoVilla
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18/07/2007 12:51:00

I would honestly snap their hands off to get him for 9M. A Keeper of his calibre is worth an extra ten points a season - as Cech, Seaman and Schemical have shown - and he really is the best around. We do need to replace Sorenson and MON knows it which is why he hasn't been offered a new contract whereas Melly has, so getting anyone other than Gordon is a step backwards in my eyes.
BEEFY
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18/07/2007 13:00:00

To those of you saying go and get Gordan you must all be mad. He is a very good keeper and is a lot younger than the others who have been mentioned but Jaaskelianen will get us at least 10 points on his own next season. If it hadn't have been for him and Anelka last season, Bolton would not have got into Europe. Just look at the two games he had against us, particularly at Villa Park. He was absolutely outstanding. He is the undoubtedly the best keeper that is available and within our reach.
notthedougellisstand
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18/07/2007 13:00:00

Jaaskelinan is ten years older than Gordon. We need to stabalise the club and signing Jaaskelinan would merely be putting off our need to get another keeper for a couple of seasons whereas getting Gordon would mean that should be sorted for a decade.
BEEFY
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18/07/2007 13:02:00

I think Jaaskelinan, Carson or Gordon are the only options. I think 4m would get either Carson or Jussi. But heres a thought - get both Jussi and Carson. Still spending less than what Sunderland are spending on Gordon!!!! Has anyone heard any other GK links?? I reckon Carson or Jussi may happen soon - otherwise why would MON send Malanda back and not offer Tommy a new contract asap??
deano.avfc
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18/07/2007 13:07:00

Has to be Carson for me. He was outstanding for England Under 21's and with fat bucket Robinson clearly not international clsss (unless for burger eating) then Carson surely has a great chance of being England No 1 for Euro 2008 (if we qualify!!). However, that will only happen if he is playing regular Premiership football, which will not happen if he stays with the bin dippers. And Carson would cost half what Gordon does! And with several of his Under 21 mates already at Villa then we may have a good chance of actually getting him. UTV SOTC
Rickymeister
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18/07/2007 13:16:00

Beefy, Jaaskelianen is 32 and Gordan is 24. 32 is no age for a goalkeeper and he could sign a 5 year-year contract and still easily be at the top of his game when that ends. I think 9m for a position that at the moment isn't absolutely essential is far too much. We would still have to buy a right back, winger and centre half to bolster the squad.
notthedougellisstand
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18/07/2007 13:17:00

9 million 4 gordon pfffff is this a joke??
Celtic4Europe
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18/07/2007 13:42:00

i get the feeling we cant afford him
mackaavfc
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18/07/2007 13:44:00

I don't think it is a question of can't afford him but of don't wish to afford him. From what I have seen he looks OK and could be excellent but like many signings this summer has to prove himself in the Premiership. I don't think he is worth the risk at that price and if he turns out like "Scottish Goalkeepers of Old" there would be many on here willing to moan.
pongo wearing
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18/07/2007 13:49:00

Pongo you are exactly right.
notthedougellisstand
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18/07/2007 13:52:00

Jussi all the way for me. He's just peaking for a gk, premiership proven and not 9million which is a joke for an unproven premiership keeper. Jussi could do a job for the next 4 years, in that time we could start looking for the next Bosnich. Just wondering would MON be considering offering Sorenson to Bolton in a swap deal for Jussi?
PBAVFC
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18/07/2007 14:05:00

We can afford that, just not for him!
tarzan
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18/07/2007 14:28:00

MON is watching and waiting.No point getting into a bidding war to drive the price up.See what Hearts accept( Their chairman is nearly as mad as egghead) and make the decision.Like Marlon.The one thing about keepers is they are hard to find and you can't ask any player to fill in for them.If Gordon is rated as the countries No1 and has a crap team in front of him...well what can you do.A good shot stopper and commanding keeper is what wins you trophies and Tommy has proven to be unrelaible at times.In todays market is 10mill alot for a position that is so hard to fill..Look at how many keepers Manu have gone through since Schmeical left!!
OneloveVilla
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18/07/2007 14:48:00

If Boruc goes it will be to one of the top 4 or any massive European side, he is total class. The rich get the pickings! I doubt Sunderland have bid that much for Gordon, Onelove is right the chairman is a madman.
tarzan
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18/07/2007 15:22:00

Shouldn't all goalkeepers be good shot stoppers? A goalkeeper who can't stop shots is like a bike with no wheels. I think every pro gk surely must be a good shot stopper, it should be taken for granted. The difference between good and bad keepers comes down to confidence, leadership and how well they use there area.
PBAVFC
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18/07/2007 16:07:00

The point you make about gordon not being worth 9million despite admittingly having never watched him play is the comment of an idiot. There is no denying that this is an over-inflated price but the english market is charging that for their players so why not vice versa. Harewood for 4 mill that is a complete laugh cause the guy is third rate and this is a prime example. Gordon is a good keeper and that extra couple of milion might be re-couped with the extra points difference he makes in league. Villa will never make top half of table with their poor squad at present so quality players should be a must when you can get them as most wouldn't want to join a mid table team not in europe - fact.
LARSSON*7*CFC
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18/07/2007 16:47:00

I trust MON to go for the best we can hope to sign. I really believe if we're disappointed at the end of the transfer window it'll be because the players didn't want to join, not becuase MON didn't identify them. IF we sign Gordon for 9mil, it'll be because the manager rated him at that, and if we don't sign them, we can only speculate why. The negativity is slightly understandable due to the frustration but is it really necessary? We've still got nearly 6 weeks to sign some more players and often a bad 2-4 opening weeks in the prem can open up the opportunity to sign someone who isn't available now.
johnnyuk
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18/07/2007 17:36:00

Larsson go back to the circus, you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get knocked out in the qualifiers. To say MH is third rate is a comment of a fen trotter, his record is better than Bellamy's. Still trying to flog Graveson to Sheff Utd...mmm.
tarzan
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18/07/2007 17:55:00

To be fair, we signed MH as a back-up and he wasn't wanted by West Ham, so by definition he is third-rate! Though third-rate players have done well in the past.
DerryVillan
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18/07/2007 18:25:00

Though added to that, Gravesen is a very good example of not being able to judge before players play a few games - on paper Gravesen should have done well, but ended up benched, while Harewood should be benched, but might do well!
DerryVillan
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18/07/2007 18:31:00

I have to agree with notthedougellisstand, Jussi is class. Gordon looks a very good keeper but not for 9mil. Jussi has always impressed me and I hope he has done the same for MON. As for his age, Seaman was still playing at the top for Arsenal at the age of 40! 2-3mil would be an absolute bargain in this day and age. We should get at least six good years out of him, by which time we will be in a position to get even better...You know it makes sense!
Nigel-not-Reo
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18/07/2007 19:12:00

Jesus some Celtic fans really have it in for us
Pking
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18/07/2007 21:45:00

Despite the heading - Villa don't need 9 million Gordon, the response from reading all the above is that quite a lot of fans think we do. I remember years ago when 1 million was lashed out on Peter Shilton people said the world had gone mad - but astute managers know that a goalkeeper is as important as a top striker in terms of the poins he will win. Gordon is top class and we should go for him and send a messsage out to others and to ourselves that we mean to buy the best. He is worth it. Boruc is Sorenson mark 2 and not in Gordon's league. Just because he doesn't play for one of the old firm doesn't mean he is not the business - e.g. Andy Gray from Dundee United, Alan Evans from Dunfermiline. Just think about it Hearts have never received anything like this and, as many of you say, goalkeepers normally cost less - yet Hearts turned down 8.5 million - that was a massive expression of confidence in not needing to snap the hands off a supposedly massive bid. This is a missed opportunity and I feel it is nothing to do with any questions from MON about the quality of the keeper - but the strange view sharedc by some of the respondents above that somehow 9 million is too much for a keeper. Even Villa have paid 9.5m for Angel and 8m for Collymore - neither of which was top class - Gordon is. Jaskeleinen is good too and cheape,r but a good keeper like Gordon could have become a fantastic safe pair of hands for years at the club like Seaman was at Arsenal. Well done Roy Keane is my conclusion, and a major disappointment we're missing out unfurtunately
stennyvilla
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18/07/2007 22:14:00

Stenny - didn`t realise he was that good,if MON shares your view then don`t rule it out.
ASPINALL
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18/07/2007 22:25:00

If he is as good as everyone is saying then why haven't Arsenal snapped him up already. After all they have a kepper who is 7 years older than Sorenson and some on here are saying Tommy is too old. Personally I don't think a GK isn't a must have at the moment, there are many more positions to strengthen first, but if MON thinks Gordon is good enough then so be it and good luck to him.
Hoss The Villain
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19/07/2007 06:22:00

Anyone who thinks Boruc is overated must be letting some personal issues with Celtic blind their judgement. He is world class, he faces Champios League forwards every year and I watched him at Celtic and the San Siro against Milan and he was awesome keeping out Kaka, Seedorf and Inzagi, which is no mean feat. Don't think he would come to us though, Gordon is a decent keeper but 9m is a lot of money for his age and experience. If he is that good then I'm sure MON will be monitoring the situation.
astonmilan
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19/07/2007 07:15:00

Roy KEane has ended his interest in Gordon, so maybe he aint worth 9m after all.
The Usual Suspect
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19/07/2007 11:51:00

To be fair, the rumour ahout Sunderland (which was apparently untrue, according to the agent) involved 5million cash plus 4million extras, and 5million basic is probably in the upper limit of a good buy. Still a chance, still a chance.
ForeverHoop
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19/07/2007 23:32:00

Dundee United fan here (that's why Arab). I've seen Gordon come on since he was a youngster and he's no a bad keeper - but even if you're talking 5million plus 4million bonus that's still almost guaranteed to end up being 9million however you look at it. Like him, good keeper, but tha's just too rich.
Arabian John
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20/07/2007 00:26:00

Never thought for one minute that Sorenson and Taylor would both still be at VP come pre-season training, but realistically how many keepers better than TS are out there, and even more importantly, are available?
glensider
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21/07/2007 03:36:00

 

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