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House Refurbishment And Villa

As some of you know, I have a little semi detached house in North Wales with a small garden in which there are a few trees and plenty of wild grass. My wife likes the idea of attracting wild life, butterflies
and birds especially and has over the years we've lived here, some 12 now, changed things here and there to suit.

Me I've had the onerous task of rebuilding it every12 months, to keep up with changing times, and demands on the house. When we moved from our 4 bedroomed cottage up the hill our family consisted of Sue, me and our 4 kids with our little wonder 3 months away from delivery, and my wife's mom newly moved from Birmingham.

It took the builders from March until August to make the house habitable, the top story, was still partly smoke damaged from an internal fire 4 years previously.

Now nearly 12 years later with just my wife, myself and my youngest here permanently I'm a quarter of the way through rebuilding and redecorating each room on each level and have started, until the weather interrupted to refurbish exterior parts in need.

Its a mammoth task, and a costly one, and one that's highly disruptive, with scaffolding interrupting our parking arrangements, rooms cluttered with the contents of other rooms in the middle of change, we've had weeks with 1 toilet, and 1 shower its been hard. You plan, you organise and I'm good at that as is my wife, but still it can go wrong, the weather is so bad every time they start work it stops them, the guys rebuilding the living room fireplace are both down with the new virus and so on, its a battle, but with compromise, with patience it will all get done, not in the original time frame, or as originally planned, you just have to change to suit.

Martin O'Neill is in a similar position as I write. He's rebuilding Aston Villa. He's got more help than me, he's got more money than me but his job is just as big, ok its bigger. But in its own way just as complicated and I'd suggest he's under far, far more pressure to get results. He's removed the rubbish, cut out the weak, maybe too quickly and now he's looking to buy the materials to fit the plan to enable the dream to come true.

Like me he's finding it hard, even though in theory he doesn't have my cost restraints, and I'm sure he's hit problems, its not going to plan even allowing for his past record of leaving transfers until late. All
around him the support work goes on, with improvements at every corner, his partners are doing their part well enough but there are huge delays, essential personnel change their mind, need more money, have better options and so on.

Luckily for me, time is on my side, I've planned around visits from kids, from friends and from business colleagues, they can accept the chaos, the parking restrictions, but O'Neill has different pressures, he has much less leeway, far more demands. For him having removed the weakness' within the structure he's only just started replacing, it will be weeks yet before its imbedded and working as well as required.

The other parts needed for the basic structure are still missing, the house will soon start to wobble and crumble unless they are not only bought in but fixed, fully prepared, and decorated ready to go. Even then when its done it will take time to see if the original plan was all that was expected,but it has to be done first.

For me my structure is done its just decoration and finishing, time consuming as it is. O'Neill on the other hand has a long way to go just to get the structure sound, and his time restraints mean he doesn't have much longer left, could he be considering compromises, we initially didn't but we don't have his money, but I have a feeling to meet his deadline he will have to, we had to eventually.

Trouble is in the long run, as I found when I made such compromises before, in time they come back to cost you more to put right.

I wonder if in time he will too?

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Writer: AVFC48 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday July 13 2007

Time: 12:29PM

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Another Doom and Despair article from our very own Harbinger of Doom. Well done for pointing out the obvious with a fairly basic analogy.
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13/07/2007 12:48:00

Maybe he would enlighten us with who was his preference to M'ON. As those who read the forums will know, M'ON was not his first choice of manager but he has been unprepared to actually say who was. It is probably asking to much for construtive, not destructive critisism.
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13/07/2007 12:59:00

Pertinent points and as one with Blind optimism I would perhaps beg to differ, but as time goes on 48 may be proved not far wrong
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13/07/2007 13:13:00

I think it`s a fairly balanced view,MON was my 1st choice as manager but if other people had a different view then what is wrong with that? Why does everyone slate anybody who dares question the current set-up? I think you must be blind to not be concerned that all clubs seem to be strengthening apart from us.
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13/07/2007 13:26:00

Deano used to have a little cat called tinker bell
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13/07/2007 13:26:00

Fear must be at wits end if he has to resort to posting ridiculous articles like this one.
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13/07/2007 13:28:00

How many kids? You not heard of contaception :-)
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13/07/2007 13:50:00

You leave my ****** out of this Jonah! ;)
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13/07/2007 13:59:00

This is getting boring now, find yourself a hobby or double your input into your housing project and leave the football matters to MON and Randy's team. Judge them on August 31st, not now, some people should realise what a minefield negotiations can be with players and agents, players will arrive, thats for sure. Putting football clubs into the position to be playing the likes of Real, Sevilla, Milan and Barcelona doesn't happen overnight and either do the players who are capable of that. We have a talented young squad, a few additions will be fine, I'd rather have three quality players come in than six half decent ones. Then next season build on that. I DON@T WANT TO END UP LIKE LEEDS UTD !!!!
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13/07/2007 14:00:00

Aspinall - he's not getting slated but EACH and EVERYONE of his article has an underlying slant of negativity towards MON. Unjustified. Without MON Blues would be looking down from the Premiership on us. He has undone years of neglect by previous regimes and 48 never ever recognises this. If we were to all agree with 48 then we'd be slitting wrists. Just so negative. All the best managers miss out on targets not just MON and there is no recognition of this at all. MON isn't untouchable and neither is AVFC48.
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13/07/2007 14:23:00

I think it is all about opinions. Many of us have different views to 48. It doesn't make them right or wrong. Sometimes you need views that are the flip side of the coin, in order to maintain a sense of perspective. My gripe is that 48 consistently has a dig at M'ON, and he often tells us that last August, M'ON wasn't his 1st choice of managers that were available to take on the Villa job. But he fails to inform us of who was his choice. It is not such a difficult question is it?
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13/07/2007 14:51:00

it obviously is VOTH, the number of times you have asked it with no response.
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13/07/2007 15:01:00

Why would Blues be looking down on us if not for MON ? I like the bloke but seems quite a lot of Villa fans have this blind faith in him which i can`t understand,it needs to be fair both ways as we`ve had an 11th place finish so far and currently our squad is probably 3 players short from improving that position.Someone on another debate mentioned the word " Genius " when talking about MON?? Yes,we need to give him deadline day before we all scream and shout but we do seem to be underprepared ( at the mo ) considering in 10 days we start playing games.
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13/07/2007 15:14:00

Does 48 actualy support Villa ? I mean by passing through the turnstyles every week ? or is one of these passive supprters that watches Prem Plus ? A better choice than MON ? Fergie, Wenger, Ancellotti, Cappello, Raneiri may possibly drop into this bracket judging them on thair success. Maybe he should send his CV into Villa Park just in case.
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13/07/2007 15:15:00

MON was undoubtebly the best choice for us.
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13/07/2007 15:19:00

astonmilan I can confirm thay 48 is indeed very much a Villa supporter. His past credentials are up their with the best. Although he doesn't come as often nowadays because it takes 2 hours to reach the motorway after a game?????? However we also now have an answer to who he would rather have had the job in preference to M'ON. It was Jurgen Klinsmann. Yes that Jurgen Klinsmann. The one who commuted to Germany when managing his country and who left after 2 years because of the demands of the job. And because he wanted to revert back to his original lifestyle, with his family in California. That Jurgen Klinsmann. The one who has never managed a football club before or after his stint as German manager. Apparently he would have been a better bet for the future of Aston Villa than the manager who has won more silverware than any manager outside the top four. You have to give it to 48. He is a genius. Jurgen Klinsmann. Who would have thought???
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13/07/2007 15:45:00

Voiceoftheholte, if I had no arms or legs it would take me around 50 minutes to get to the motorway from VP !! Jurgan Klinsman !! the 'Jurgan who took the ball a yard over the line before crossing it back for a goal for Inter against Villa in the San Siro Klinsman' F**k me, I take it all back, 48 your are a footballing genius, I just can't believe I never thought of that one, MON is s**t compared to him OBVIOUSLY.
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13/07/2007 16:44:00

Agree with the thoughts on that fella. However there is an issue regarding disabled access to and from the ground. This is something that has brought to the Generals attention and is being looked after by the man himself. So maybe the 'no arms and legs' bit may be taken out of context by some.
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13/07/2007 16:53:00

Not to be disrepectful to disabled people, but the 'General' was in command during the first 'Gulf War' and is responsible for removing a lot of arms and legs, including a few of my comrades. Maybe someone else would be better at helping disabled people and their needs !!
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13/07/2007 17:00:00

I enjoyed the article, don't see it as doom and gloom, just a fan expressing his opinions and raising questions.
The Fear
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13/07/2007 19:18:00

Aspinall, MON was a good choice, a popular choice and one I hope will bring us much success. There were other, more proven, top international managers also though, it is up to MON to prove he was the best choice, he has time to do that and then he can be lauded as the messiah indeed. Long may the optimism continue and long may Villa move forward. I must admit I'm watching spurs with some envy at the moment, not only have they the players signed, sealed and delivered but they are also in the shirts playing in pre-season friendlies. Still, as avfc48 was trying to say, there is a re-building job in the throws of being done at Villa, lets see where it takes us.
The Fear
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13/07/2007 19:21:00

I think that anyone who thinks they are a better fan because they attend the games is 'up themselves' and self righteous. I attend because I can, for at least two years following brain surgery I coudln't though and that didn't diminish my passion or make me less of a fan. Unless you know the situation a particular person is in with reference to family committments, charity work, financial situation, I would really advise you not to sit in judgement from a high horse lauding yourself as the be-all-and-end-all whilst the people who don't make it to a game prostrate themselves at your feet........... or something like that ! :o)
The Fear
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13/07/2007 19:23:00

"and I'm sure he's hit problems, its not going to plan" - do you know this for a fact? If so enlighten us, you seem to be better connected than anyone else I know at VP. Come on spill the beans!!!!
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13/07/2007 19:37:00

No ******** ***** sherlock!
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13/07/2007 20:37:00

and, it took the author of this magnificent piece of literature no less than 721 words to tell us that MON is restructuring the team. I think this article was more to tell the masses about this persons home renovation. I'll sleep easy tonight knowing that 3 people wont be sharing 1 toilet, god forbid i ever end up in that situation in my life.
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13/07/2007 20:41:00

Exactly Mr Fear,we don`t have a messiah or genius in charge but i pray he turns out to be great,i just hope with the billion times more knowledge he has that his targets will be signed and sealed and all the worry evaporates,if not then............................aaaaghhhh
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13/07/2007 21:18:00

One mans personal opinion and outlook, and he's entitled to his views. Way too negative for me I'm afraid. You cant go through life looking at 'what if', forever looking to wrap yourself in the doom and gloom, it leads to a miserable existance. However, for those that want to live on the 'dark side', avfc48's words will provide comfort and solace. I'll continue to remain positive and upbeat if I may. I welcomed MON's arrival, and in my estimation he's doing a grand job, and turning the grand old club around. Let him do it his way. He's a proven winner.
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13/07/2007 21:26:00

Jurgen Klinsmann? Now he's got to be joshing? Surely?
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13/07/2007 21:29:00

BORING! who cares? lets move on - theres a bridge get over it. I'm more annoyed at this continuing sniping than not signing some megga star (well maybe not but it's close)
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13/07/2007 21:41:00

If when the curtain is pulled back at the new kit launch Carson,Young,Drenthe and Defoe appear then i think we`ll bring back the love !!
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13/07/2007 22:00:00

Its all about opinions, I cant understand why people react the way they do when theres an easier option to Ignore. Should have gone to B&Q anyway.
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13/07/2007 23:26:00

Why ignore when you can debate an issue ? We have bugger all else to do in regards the Villa.
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13/07/2007 23:34:00

Just been on the forums and discovered 48 has changed his mind. It wasn't klinsmann he wanted, it was Scolari, then Capello and M'ON was his third choice. You couldn't make it up could you. And apparently because we have had a laugh at 48, he has complained to the site editor that we do not share his views and that we are all cyber bullies. The poor man.
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14/07/2007 09:51:00

for gods sake voice, give it a rest about avfc48, he hasn't changed his mind at all, if you read and believed what people said instead of going on some sort of crusade, you might even see the point he is trying to make. Klinsmann was reportedly the target when Randy was incoming, that is all avfc48 said. If you are going to quote people, at least get it right instead of bending things to suit your agenda. AVFC48 has also done no such thing as complaining to me, so maybe it is you that is the poor man. FFS, talk about the football and debate points and stop obsessing about avfc48.
The Fear
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14/07/2007 10:16:00

Reminds me of Tranmere away,when we all started fighting each other!! Hope it all ends up the same way! voice,i admire your love of all things C & B,but people are allowed to not worship MON matey.
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14/07/2007 11:29:00

Fear. I respect you sir but you are now telling us to stop having opinions by obsessing. However, the main aim of any journalistic type literature is to 'instruct, inform, explain and entertain' and AVFC48 has provoked entertainment in the form of debate and he knows it...and expected it. We have reacted and you have more forum users. So, you can of your own virtue knock it because you have free will, but so do we. AVFC48 wrote a decent articl the other week and got lauded for it. You can't have it both ways.
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14/07/2007 12:15:00

A fan is a fan, a supporter pays his hard earned money and goes every week come rain or shine and supports the team. So I can say what I want about AVFC48 or anybody elses opinion on the team as long as its not abusive towards them. When I leave Villa Park after losing a game (which has happened too much in the last few years) I feel sick to the stomach. You can't get that feeling off teletext or the radio/tv, but I still turn up the following week and supprt them again. If you are not at the games how can you have an opinion ??? And when we makes me happy all week. If you want to be a fan, be a fan of Manure or Liverpool like the rest of the glory hunting population, if you want to support get yourself a season ticket or get to as many games as possible (and not just the big teams, the wigans aswell !!)
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14/07/2007 13:02:00

Astonmilan. I can't go to as many games as I like due to work commitments. I go to as many as I can. Am I just a fan who should go and support Man U? Does this mean I can't have an opinion on the Villa? Believe me, I've seen Villa lose on Sky, whilst listenting to it on the radio and at Villa Park, the feeling of defeat doesn't differ that much. If you started a new career tomorrow which stopped you going to Villa Park everyweek what would that make you?
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14/07/2007 21:15:00

The feeling I get when Villa lose is the same wherever I am. Whether I've watched the game at VP, on Sky/Al Jazeer. Listened on the radio or watched the scores come up on teletext. Absolute devastation. That feeling maybe lessened if I've seen the game and feel there are positives to be taken from the performance. I care passionately about Aston Villa FC. I go when I can afford to go. I want NOTHING more right now than to buy a season ticket. Unfortunately due to a recent business venture that didn't go to plan I am totally skint and therefore can't physically afford to buy one. I am absolutley GUTTED about this. Does me not having a season ticket make me any less of a fan/supporter than some one who does? No. It just means they have more money than me.
Adam Deuce
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15/07/2007 13:39:00


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