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Pundits On Villa's Top Four Viability

Pundits On Villa's Top Four Viability

Thanks to the stupendous win at Arsenal its a question pundits have been answering on radio, TV and in the news media.

Most I've come across rightly still feel Arsenal will do it but most again feel that Villa have the best chance of finishing 5th until Man City get their act together and again most don't think that will be before this seasons end.

Me . Well I agree with those who said in the excitement of the win Saturday that we are good enough. You can't argue with wins at Arsenal and Prague, and against Ajax. The squad, especially the first XV are capable of a top 4 finish, if any of the usual 4 slip up. Its possibly even good enough if they are not.

Will we though ?

No idea. Like any sensible fan, as some of O'Neill's team selections have left much to be desired and our resulting performances left plenty to be desired. Simply put results against Stoke, Newcastle especially Boro would at least have put us 2 points clear of Utd and 3 over Arsenal. By results I mean a draw. Had we won and not lost any, there would have been even more excitement over our league position after Saturdays game.

It might even have topped the unbeaten run JG had back when we topped the PL who knows. For me the money spent back in the summer, the 3rd biggest spend in Europe, has pushed us on enough allied to other teams starting poorly, to make us serious top 4 contenders, and but for those poor results against sides we should not have lost too, we would be top 4 and with points in hand.

Luckily the injury situation is holding up, although I have doubts about the attitude of some players, but its a fine line between success and failure, and the higher in the league you progress the finer the line gets.

Don't get me wrong, I in no way feel we are yet anyway near the talent level of Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, or Arsenal, but as Mart said after the game we have some real talent here, we do.

Do we have the managerial ability to bring about the level of consistency needed and enough talent to maintain a season of it.

I think not and I don't think January will improve it enough if at all, which might be our problem. Yes Randy's generosity has helped tremendously but he'll need to fund far more to enable a complete breakthrough

Therein lies the problem. All the best players go to the best clubs and even if we finished in the top 4 I'd question whether we would have the willingness to bring in the really top players.

Still we have to finish top 4 first and cross that argument after. For now yes the squad is good enough, will it finish top 4 I doubt but hope it will.

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Date:Monday November 17 2008
Time: 5:32PM


Doubts about some players' attitudes - do you mean GB by any chance? I agree with you that we're probably not good enough to finish top 4. But, hey, we're having some fun trying this season, and just wait for next season.
17/11/2008 18:19:00
To be honest if Barry wants to go let him, sell him for something decent in jan and find a young upcoming player, we have been linked with a 8m move for Steven Defour, so maybe he is an option, then theres Petrov who i reckon has been better than Barry this season and then Sidwell is coming decent now, Barry hasn't been as good as last season, he has been good and even great but not the match winning performances that we are so used to.
Villa 4 Ever
17/11/2008 20:53:00
You will need 5 players brought in during January. If not those tired legs will catch up even if you are lucky with injuries. Arsenal are most likely to drop below Villa but as a betting man I will give you 4-1 the top 4 will be the usual.
1st Chels... 2nd Man U... 3rd Liverpool..... 4 Arsenal..... 5th ... y'know I think I will pencil Villa in. Good luck you Lions...
....and on that score, when I was a little girl in the 70's Villa were LIONS and not Villans.... and when did Sunderland become the black cats?.... and when did white dog **** disappear.... and what about fizz bombs... 4 for 1 p... mumble, mumble.. medication time...
17/11/2008 20:58:00
You can't break the wage structure overnight by signing a superstar or two so I think that MON has done extremely well to acheive what he has so far. Man Citeh won't get there with Hughes in charge but if they change it, then we could have other contenders for that 4/5th spot next season along with others so now is the time to make a conscious move for the elusive Champions League to see if we can attract the players and therefore incresae the win bonuses etc. greatly even if we can't dramatically incresase the wage structure.
18/11/2008 10:06:00
If we're going to push for a top 4 we need minimum 4 decent players. We need first of all 2 strikers, Carew is a 30 game a season man, therefor we need to off load Hare and play Gabi with another target man. If A Young was ever out for a long period of time, we would have nothing on the left, Barry can not to what he does it's as simple as that, but then the same could be said about Young. They are different players. We also need Bouma fit.
18/11/2008 14:08:00
Striker x2 please. One big, one small and Frank Ribery for more midfield quality. Ta MON ;-)
18/11/2008 14:26:00
As usual with your articles, avfc, this has a negative tone disguised as a positive write-up. Again as usual, your tone becomes immediately negative tone whenever you mention our management team. You ask "Do we have the managerial ability to bring about the level of consistency needed and enough talent to maintain a season of it." Nobody can answer that until the season is over, but perhaps you can tell us who you would install in place of Martin O'Neill, Steve Walford and John Robertson, and let us debate your choices?
18/11/2008 16:25:00
Well said bob the builder!
18/11/2008 16:44:00
BobTheBuilder totally agree with you..."Do we have the managerial ability to bring about the level of consistency needed and enough talent to maintain a season of it." that one sentence was enough to anger me as a Villa fan. do you sit behind MON in the Trinity Rd by anychance? Show some support. MON is building something here and is wise enough to realise it won't happen over night UTV
18/11/2008 16:51:00
Guys, we all know AVFC48 has his views on MON, and he always will....I used to get worked up but don't now as I think he is actually quite good at getting debates going, which can only be good. I listened to the pundits on MoTD the other night and even they said that team have blips...and when ours does some people will have negative views and other not....others will always have negative or negative sounding views. Don't get hung up on it. Up the Villa boys. All posts are welcome...even OneAaronLennon - and he hasn't posted for ages!
18/11/2008 18:09:00
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