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Blessing In Disguise?

Ok, we weren't at the races last night. Key players looked fatigued already.

I can't help but see this as a blessing. With Villa not in the League/Milk/Carling/Worthington Cup or whatever you want to call it then GOOD in my opinion.

In recent years we have faired poorly in this tournament, however have played better against stronger opposition in more important and bigger games.

With the KEY Uefa games approaching, the FA Cup (the one that counts), the Premiership top 6 to aim for, I'd actually prefer us out of the Milk/Carling Cup etc and focusing on the bigger picture. This will give our key players necessary time to re-coup and rest when not playing and ensure our strongest team is out on that field when it really matters!.... we could of gone all the way to the semi-finals for nothing and that would of taken its toll on the lads.

The Premiership, The FA Cup and the UEFA Cup should be our target this season, Id hate to see our long awaited UEFA Cup performances let down by fatigued and injured players from the League Cup!




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The Journalist

Writer: Lee Lindsay Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday September 25 2008

Time: 7:24PM

Your Comments

Respect the opinion and can see the logic, just fundamentally disagree. This was, to me, our best chance of a decent cup run. Hopefully at the end of the season we'll pick up the FA or UEFA Cup and you guys thinking it is a blessing can say you told us so, until then, I just think winning is a habit and losing can be the same.
The Fear
im with the article. id rather lose in this cup. look what happened last season
Gruck
Ditto
Stourbridge Villan
This was your best chance of winning a competition, now you'll in all likliness be trophyless - I wouldn't exactly call that a blessing, unless you manage to finish fourth, but I honest think you'd have had a better chance winning the cup than finishing in 4th
Boxer
Best and only chance of winning a trophy IMO, can`t agree at all.
ASPINALL
Yup I'm with Fear, and completely disagree. We want to be winning things and that should've started this season with the League Cup. Calling it the Milk Cup and all that is just not on. We aren't going to win UEFA (semis at best) and we're not going to get 4th (5th at best, being realistic) and FA cup we'll get knocked out by Manure 3rd round as usual. I am gutted.
olafthegreat
I was gutted last night. Mostly at the lack of support from the Holte. I am a Holte End season ticket but left it too late to secure my seat. I ended up getting a ticket in Trinity close to the Holte. All I heard all night was an incredible noise from 6500 Rangers fans in the Upper North Stand. I know they took up their full allocation but could they not have gone some where else. Even so the reaction from the holte was nothing short of disgraceful. I sand along, loudly in the Trinity everytime a song in the Holte got loud enough for me to hear what they werew singing. Yes people were starring at me stood on my own singing but at least I was. I was so embarrassed when they sang "Your support is f'kin *****" at us. They were right. What the ***** happened Holte Enders? I even asked the stewards if they could transfer me across at half time because I felt I was needed!! I thought the boys played OK. Not great but at half time I was content and confident with the performance if not the support. QPR were sung to victory. They were the twelvth man. Despite what the banner across the Holte says.
Adam Deuce
But in answer to the article in hindsight it is a blessing. But we still should have won.
Adam Deuce
are you saying the Holte end was sold out with only 15,000 Villa fans in the ground??? You'll find that the Holte isn't that loud anyway when one is not sat in it.
Villan57
I just think we cannot afford to be choosy about trying to win cups and I fail to see the silver lining here. We got dumped out by a Championship side. In the 1990s, we were glad to win this pot twice. We used to have a reputation as a good cup team. Huh! Say what you like about Big Fat Ron (and no doubt many of us could say a lot!) but he knew how to get a team fired up for these "one off" events. This is a set-back IMO.
BBJ
No I'm saying when I called up to get my seat they were no longer doing telesales. I was then able to get a reduced price ticket in Trinity so I took it. It was torture sitting there. Never again. Honestly I was devastated. I hate any loss as much as we all do. And I remember last year seeing the easy path we would have had had we beat Leicester and how it was hard to take. But we are still in the UEFA Cup and I would happily swap that for a run in the League Cup. Be a good year to win the UEFA as it could be the last year in it's present format.
Adam Deuce
3pts against sunderland, nothing else matters!
eltoro
This artical echo's exactly what i've been thinking all day!
Nigel-not-Reo
The simple fact of the matter, is that virtually every season for the past twenty-five years plus, this competition has been our only real hope of lifting a trophy, and yet once again we have screwed up big-time and thrown away a golden opportunity. Winning trophies is what the game is all about. It can only be good for the club, helps and attracts a better quality player, helps to raise the profile of the club, and arguably, most important of all, helps to create a winning mentality within the club. It concerns me that yet again it is fairly clear to all that we find ourselves totally dependant on a squad of fifteen, maybe sixteen quality performers, the remainder simply not up to the task when given the opportunity to stake a claim. You have to wonder exactly where we would be, if heaven forbid, GB, John Carew, Ashley Young or Gabby Agbonlahor even, suffered long term injuries, because my reading of the situation is that we quite simply couldn't cope. It would appear that no lessons were learnt following the Leicester City reversal at the same stage of the same competition last season. Making changes to the team isn't something I have a big problem with, far from it. We've played a lot of games in a relatively short space of time, and with the fixtures continuing to come thick and fast over the course of the next couple of months, its realistic to take the opportunity to keep players as fresh as possible, however, in my opinion, making SIX changes is both unwarranted and unnecessary. Three, maybe four changes is o.k., but surely never six? Now we at least get to trot out that tired and well worn cliche, 'Well, we can at least now concentrate on the league/FA Cup/UEFA Cup'. Sorry, it just doesn't wash.
glensider
Basically, a team, any team should enter a competition trying to win it, and if they are fortunate enough to be competing in three or four, then they should try to do as well as they can in all of them. Surely to do less than that is a slap in the face to the to the supporters, the club, and to the competitions themselves?
glensider
Even with the 6 changes we should have had enough to win the game. Harewood can't finish anything except his dinner and should be sent back to the spammers in px for Ashton in January. I sort of predicted this would happen on Weds morning with another Villa fan at work because of Dowie and what he did to manure last year with Cov, but it still hurts that a genuine cup chance has gone down the toilet again with a home defeat. Good luck to QPR, but we must put it right on Saturday and send Keane back up the motorway with his tail between his legs.
Madirish
This article = just what i fort and said yesterday but in better words =] Great stuff
Blitz
Whole heartedly disagee. This is the kind of stuff you come up with when you've been dumped out of the cup - ways to justify that it's for the best. I'm sure if we'd have beaten QPR the other night we'd all be writing about how we're going to have a great cup run and how important it is to do well in the League Cup. Yes I agree that it does mean we have a few less matches to play so key players can be rested, but how be being out of the cup be better than being in it?!?! Maybe if that's the case we should not bother showing up for UEFA or FA and focus on the league??
AVFC4ME
MON picked a half-decent team apart from 2 players, they didn`t perform and it confirms that we have a good 1st 11 and the rest are not upto scratch bar a couple, totally gutted as thought we could win this one.
ASPINALL
We've built the 1st team up to a decent standard finally, and to some extent we have got 'a bit of a squad' to back it up - but if we look at the situation in all honesty then we're still short of quality in our back up players, and possibly one or two positions still can be significantly improved in the 1st team. So I think we're all being unrealistic expecting us to compete on all fronts this season - I think we're still in the 're-building' phase, and hopefully we can add more depth and a bit more quality in the next 2 windows. Next year, providing we stay in Europe, I think we should be better equipped. I am pretty disappointed we lost, but of all the games in the last 10 days or so I would have accepted losing this one over the others. I for one fully believe the league placing is most important - at the moment cash is king, and I think this year could be our final shot at breaking top 4 - I think next year with other clubs spending squillions we'll be out of the frame for good.
YatesyVillain
Agreed.
2006dryden
Maybe the 20,000 who turned up deserved a full strength team with the balls to grip the match and put QPR to the sword early doors so players could have been brought off after the job was done. The League cup has traditionally been a cup Aston Villa have enjoyed great success in, the guaranteed place in Europe is also a prize worth fighting for, above all else the one thing that you cant get is personal pride of a job well done, that will have to wait till next season before the annual one game in the League Cup comes around again.
col8
Meh. We lost. Concentrate on the league and UEFA. Both are far more important IMO.
ExpatVillaShirt
The only positive to come out of this, is that the players have been brought back down to earth with a bang! Maybe after 3 aways wins on the bounce they were getting a bit too big for their boots? I think that defeat is the perfect tonic to get them fired up to go and beat Sunderland on saturday and stay in the top 4!
In MON we trust!
im with Glensider on this - if were in a competition, were in it to win it, losing in a cup should never be seen as a blessing in disguise. I cant understand this high & mighty attitude that villa fans have now got, that were too good to be interested in winning our league cup. makes me mad, grrrrrr
Adbo9
So, After our amazing 11 th and 6 th place finishes, combined with getting knocked out the fa cup in the 3rd round 3 years running and the league cup two years running against championship opposition AT HOME!! Were going to have to buy a new trophy cabinet soon for all the hong kong sevens tournaments weve won.
Adbo9
We were in it to win it but not to the detriment of our progress in other competitions. MON HAD to change the team and they weren't good enough. People didn't turn up in their tens of thousands because they new that it would be a reserve team that was out there. Good points on bringing other so called bigger players down to earth and to show lesser players that they need to do a lot better and that maybe they aren't even good enough for the championship yet. I am also a strong believer that winning is a habit and we should have won with what was put out there, but there is a problem with a lack of strikers and by all accounts if Marlon could finish we would/could/should have won.
Villan444
I think it goes to show that our "backup" team aren't good enough to compete! So the less competitions for the regular/good players the better really.....!
nottinghamvillain
Well I must admit to being somewhat surprised, at the high number of Vital Villans, who viewed this cup exit, as if not a good thing, then certainly some sort of blessing in disguise. While I still strongly believe the opposite, I guess only as the season really unfolds will we establish which viewpoint was closer to be reality. I only hope that I am proved to be way off base with my beliefs, and that we are successful either in the domestic or UEFA Cup, while breaking into the top four. Even then though, I'm still afraid I'll believe that Wednesday nights reversal was a bad thing, something that shouldn't have happened. Guess I'm just old school.
glensider
Thats a good point to make ' In MON we trust!'. Hopefully it will get them additionally fired up for the Sunderland game, plus of course, aided by a little bit of desire for revenge after last seasons home reversal at the hands of the wearsiders.
glensider
 

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