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A Class Act Leaving Villa Soon?

A Class Act leaving soon ?

As he showed against Spurs Gareth Barry remains the one consistent class act in the Villa side.

Yes I appreciate Davies is nearly a legend according to some and young Ashley has been consistently good and deserving of an England call up, but our Gareth remains the one regular England International in the side and is generally far above the rest.

So why should it be contemplated that he should leave for pastures new come January or July. Randy did a superb job in keeping him at Villa I'm sure the General was most impressed with his tactical acumen, and after the Liverpool game was out of the way, Barry has taken superbly to his new role in the team.

Yes I appreciate some wish him to leave still, for having the temerity to want to better himself by joining a club with Champions League qualification, but I assure you we wouldn't even be in the mix for a top spot this early in the season without his input no matter how well Davies plays.

So what comes next for our best player, is it possible to retain his magic in midfield, or are the Legend builders (well some of them) correct in the assumption Sidwell will does his job well enough. He won't now or ever, he's not the talent, he's not a replacement.

Marts biggest test, one thankfully not needed, was to find an equivalent replacement. Don't believe me, re read his statement after he first thought Barry was staying. He wouldn't have, he really wouldn't.

So will he in January, will he in the summer window. I'd doubt it, because unless Villa gain a CL qualification and with our present squad we won't, no one of that quality will join, they'll be off to Man City or one of the top 4.

Hang on. What did I just say. By now most are writing their insults and have stopped reading so its worth reiterating, with our present squad its going to be an almighty freak run of events for us to gain a top 5 place and that's what's needed.

Bit like last year really when we finished 6th with the squad we had then.

Makes me think that maybe with some careful and large expenditure come January it might be on. Daft isn't it ?

Well no its not. One of the main reasons O'Neill will not ever take us to being a top 4 side is the simple fact potential Legends like Davies, Ashley, Gabby, will be off just as quick as Barry nearly was if we don't offer them more than a PL game every week. Top class players want top class football, and big games every week in which they know their team will do well.

The old maxim success breeds success holds very true in this situation, the better Villa do the greater the need for better players, bigger fees, bigger salaries, better league positions.

Maybe if Mart can achieve a decent league finish, the rest is immaterial and just a use of resources, nice that a Wembley appearance would be, and show in January he means serious business Barry and the rest might just be Villa players next season too.

By avfc48

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Date:Wednesday September 17 2008

Time: 7:20PM

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Sort of on topic - How do you guys rate Davies? From what I've seen since he made the short distance down the road he looks to be getting better and better and I often hear high praise from some of you Claret & Blue.
Alex Humpage
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17/09/2008 19:36:00

I think if he leaves he'll flop. No club wiil appreciate him more than villa. No other fans will either. The grass is always greener on the other side but if we double his wages he might just realise that it isnt. He aint getting any younger though so maybe he needs to get the CL out of his system and then make a dramatic return when it doesnt work out! Id welcome him back all day long
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17/09/2008 19:41:00

Alex - Davies looks like a younger Rio Ferdinand. He had a shocking debut, but apart from that, he has been nothing short of excellent. He's got height, pace, strength, composure, good in the tackle and marking. Just needs to work on his distribution sometimes, he's the next England centre half and will win a few caps.
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17/09/2008 19:42:00

He won't go to Man City, Arsenal won't pay the cash, Man U have players like him, Chelsea can buy better, Liverpool have Mascarono, Alonso and Lucas who are all showing great form so on a case of him leaving it may be will anyone want him ? Saying that if he doesn't sign a contract will MON accept a cut price bid next summer ? I don't think he will and I don't think Barry will go and whine to the papers again especially as the World cup starts in 2010 and I reckon he would trade in a Champs League chance for a guarentee of playing in the World Cup.
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17/09/2008 19:47:00

I agree. Davies is defo a future england full back. He's got everything but experience but at the rate he's improving it wont be an issue. There was me thinking carlos was the better option. Davies all the way.
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17/09/2008 19:48:00

Why can't we achieve a top 5 finish? Our squad now is much stronger than last season, and with the addition of just a striker and a cover right back in January we'll have no discernable weakness in depth, to go with the quality we already have.
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17/09/2008 20:00:00

when thinking about the top 5, you should think "who are your main rivals?" - obviously spurs, probably everton, and pompey, possibly west ham, newcastle and sunderland. Then look at spur's start to the season - already 6 points behind! Evrton's squad looks much weaker than before, and they no-longer have "fortress goodison" (not after we visited anyway...). My personal feeling, is that pompey NEED to get into europe next year, to keep our best players (mainly diara...) - however I think that your team is better than ours, more settled than ours, and (up untill two games ago - but now i'm not sure) more likely to get the results you need. can you finish 5th? Icertainly wouldnt rule it out... and personaly, I think you are most likely to do so of any club (depending on man cities spending in january)
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17/09/2008 21:14:00

p.s. Glen Johnson has EVERYTHING as an england full back, and quite frankly, why cappelo insists on playing an average centre back in right back when you have one of the best (he was the top right back in the actim stats last year!) fullbacks in the league at your disposal... still...
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17/09/2008 21:19:00

pompey carpet are you having a **** laugh, glen johnson is ****, he looks good because he playing along side judas and kaboul, bloody lennon could look that good playing alongside them two liabilities. im sorry villa, but i don't think you can finish 5th, with mancity having unlimited cash, and i can honestly see wigan pushing the top lot, that zaki guy is quality. use will finish 6/7 man city will be the team to break the top 4 lol
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17/09/2008 21:37:00

I,d sell him and Harewood in the window and use the money and add 10mil to try and bring a top striker in, we ain't short of midfielders that's for sure if we had top striker on against spuds we would have had five! UpTheVilla
chris the villan
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17/09/2008 21:51:00

Pompey fan - why do you think the north east teams are in contention for fifth? newcastle are a state and sunderland dont have anywhere near the quality. Spurs have made too slow a start this season and will be changing managers over xmas, its out of us, yourselves and everton as an outside bet. Makes it nicer for us though with less competition ;)
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17/09/2008 21:51:00

But i do fear young going a couple of years down the line, he is irreplaceable.
chris the villan
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17/09/2008 21:54:00

If we sell barry, my bet is we'd replace him with de la red.
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17/09/2008 22:21:00

barru has said he's not talking about signing new contract till next summer... i think he will probably stay till then
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17/09/2008 23:06:00

I think there's been a mix up about what position Davies plays. I think someone on the thread said he was a fullback. I agree with you Pompeycarpet, Glen Johnson would do the job as fullback for England. Curtis Davies is a Centre Back not a Fullback. Its going to be an interesting season for Man City. They have unlimited dosh. Will they be able to throw a team of superstars together and break the top 4 monopoly. I don't think it will happen straight away. To build a team you need to bring in a coach that will be able to handle all those big egos. I rate Mark Hughes, but don't think he has the experience required. You could argue a case that Chelsea did, but Mourinho didn't just chuck the team together he built it around players who were already there. I fancy Villas chances of getting the better of Man City, at least for this season. It is a contest I am really looking forward to as I think top 4 is just out of our reach this season.
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17/09/2008 23:46:00

Curtis Davies is turning into a top quality centre back...he has been (a la O'Neill) simply terrific so far this season. He does indeed look like a young Rio Ferdinand, same kind of physique and playing style.
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18/09/2008 01:23:00

craig gardner is the new barry, maybe not this season, but next.
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18/09/2008 09:22:00

A few points. 1) Davies has been playing well and the several little digs at those who have noticed (basically anyone who watches more than 1 game a season) is really uncalled for and to me shows you have not seen all that much of him. 2) We all seem to forget that it was only a year ago that Sidwell was signed by Chelsea and Mourinho two well respected entities, he cant be all THAT bad. 3) Gabby will never leave Villa, he is one of us, Barry aint so has no reason to be loyal. 4) I dont want to see Barry leave, but great players have left before him and will leave after him, thats life. Villa will continue without him as they did they day Aitken, Mortimer, McGrath, Yorke and Southgate all left (either through retirement or transfers). One man doesnt make a team.
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18/09/2008 09:29:00

A few points. 1) Davies has indeed been playing well and is a superb talent and prospect like Ashley Young, Reo Coker, Gabby Agbonlahor and James Milner. We are very lucky to have them all doing so well. 2)Any one of them will leave in the next window, whether they are Villa through and through or not, if the right deal is offered. 3) When Villa lost top players before they were not looking to seriously challenge for a top 4 spot, or had spent near 50 million to establish such a position. 4) One man doesn't make a team he can make that team better than they are without him or did you not see the games when Barry or Young, were out or off form. I did.5) Our squad has more quality but its only just numerically stronger and it now has to play European games and hopefully achieve more of a cup run than in O'Neill's previous years, so achieving another European qualification let alone a EL qualification will be harder.
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18/09/2008 10:41:00

I remain convinced that the only way Gabby will leave is if he is told by management to do so. There is some loyalty in the game, no matter what some thing. Young, NRC, Davies and Barry would undoubtably walk if the opportunity arose to better themselves. Funny how we say we play badly when Barry is out of form, when the whole team is actually out of form. Oh it must be down to Barry. No it isnt. It is a team game and if a whole team is playing badly it is not down to the fact Barry is, its because the team is. No doubt Barry is important to us and no doubt Barry is a very important part of the team, but if he goes it will not be the end of the world, the club will have money to spend to replace him. There are plenty of top experienced players at our club, like Laursen, Friedel and Carew who will not suddenly become poor just because Barry has left. One man doesnt make a team no matter which way you would like to dress it. Barry can be an important part of the team but so could the person who ultimately replaces him. You can attempt to convince me that he should stay, which i agree but really its Barry you should perhaps be trying to convince, i have no power.
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18/09/2008 11:14:00

Credit must go to MON in getting the squad together and keeping them happy ( other than Gareth's week of weakness) and also making them play to their best ability (even if it has taken Petrov 2 years;-D.) Barry is irreplaceable but Villa would go on and we would have to change the way the whole team plays and it would be a setback. But with him here in January and a new finisher/striker then we would be guaranteed at least 6th and possibly 4th. Liverpool's luck will run out soon and Manu're will come good so the league is very false at the moment. Man City have a new manager and 3 new players in Jo, Ribeniho and Shaun so they are bound to have some beginners fortune but the depth of their squad is poor and it won't last and the constant talk of them being a threat to the top 4 is boring.
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18/09/2008 11:20:00

Lets not forget Man Citeh had a good start last year with all their money.
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18/09/2008 11:31:00

Why have a dig at Villa fans being positive about Villa players, you knobhead?
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18/09/2008 11:51:00

Davies was world class against SPurs. his best performance by far. but then again it was only spurs.
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18/09/2008 11:54:00

Barry, highly talented individual that he undoubtedly is, is not the be all and end all of this team that he once was. Two seasons ago he was the shining star, the one class act, but that is no longer the case. There are other top drawer performers in the team who can now step up to the plate, and I think that anyone who watches the club regularly would probably agree with that assessment. The comment made by the individual who penned this article, "As he showed against Spurs Gareth Barry remains the one consistent class act in the Villa side", is typical couch-potato short sighted vision from a Barry lover who has seen fit to berate and detract from other key performers abilities over recent seasons. Barry is a quality player, no arguments from too many folk I wouldn't think, but this MON team is now far, far from being the one man Gareth Barry show that it used to be. Need to get out more '48, watch the team first hand. Times are changing.
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18/09/2008 12:24:00

Agree Lee Lindsay. Davies was outstanding on Monday evening. Caught the eye of even the opposition supporters. Certainly our star performer on the night, and when you think how many players turned in their best showings for many a day, you realise how well he (Curtis Davies) actually played.
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18/09/2008 12:28:00

Good old avfc - another master class in how to inject negativity into an article whilst pretending to be positive. I can't even be bothered to pick your rambling diatribe apart - life's too short. As for me, like many other Villa fans, I'm not going to sit at home trembling and worrying about six or twelve months down the line. FFS, avfc, when you start out on a long car journey do you tremble at the thought that one of your wheels might drop off? D'oh!
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18/09/2008 12:31:00

Barry for quite sometime carried the team & is probably responsible for us not playing championship football, this is no longer the case. What we are now seeing is a very effective unit of players, & a team that can go & get results home or away rather than relying on a small amount of players to carry the team like we did pre MON. Credit to MON for looking at what he had squad wise when he took over, making changes and developing it into what we have now. I know believe if we can keep the mentality of the team correct we will be onto a good thing, if we keep close to the top 4 we need the belief & confidence in ourselves to go for it, we were close in the new year & bottled it at places like Fulham.
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18/09/2008 13:31:00

*****-stirring again '48? Now I feel the need to take a hot bath.
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18/09/2008 14:09:00

'48 was no doubt referring to the recently departed Phil Mepham. He was thought by many to be a class act.
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26/09/2008 03:09:00


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