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So How Was Villa's Transfer Window For You?

There seems to be mixed views on this transfer window. I must admit I'm pretty much on the fence, I don't think it was a great summer of spending but I certainly don't think it was a bad one! If not for a big name wow player or a striker, I'd have been well happy but as it is, we have improved numbers wise slightly and have strengthened.

I guess, the same as last summer, the only time to really judge this transfer window is when the 2008/2009 season closes. Will Martin O'Neill once again be proved right in his buys? Hope so. Villa have again broken the transfer record, this time for James Milner from Newcastle. Althought it was an undisclosed fee, it was certainly £12million or over! He will make a great addition and gives the side balance so that we have both sides catered for and the supply should be all but sorted. The supply to who? Well, we have to hope and pray that John Carew can stay fit and keep his form up. Then there is the younger (and by weekend press reports knackered...!) Gabby Agbonlahor who is still learning. If he gets a chance he has shown that he can take it, he just needs to work on his positional play. Beyond that we don't have much back up, no disrespect to Marlon Harewood but he proved in the Uefa midweek once again, he isn't a 90 minute player.

Some are saying Brad Friedel was a great signings, some aren't so sure that Villa are showing ambition with bringing in a 37-year-old. How will we know who is right? Yup, end of season!

Nicky Shorey provides more than adequate cover for the injured Freddy Bouma although again, already some doom mongers are saying Shorey isn't good enough. Come on guys, give the lad a chance! Luke Young might not have been the first choice for right-back but at least he is a right-back and from what I've seen so far, a decent one at that! Just to have a right-back will do me as I thought last season was a disgrace and not fair on Olof Mellberg (who said he felt out of sorts all season out wide).

Carlos Cuellar I've not seen play but by the disgust and depression in Glasgow at his depature, I'd say we have a gem there. Can't wait to see him line up, although it will be tough for Martin O'Neill to decide who to drop, if anyone, to make way. There is no way on earth he can drop Martin Laursen but it would be harsh on Curtis Davies to end up on the bench. Also very bad news for Zat Knight although hopefully there will be enough games to go around if we have a cup run or two!

Then of course we have Steve Sidwell so O'Neill has a selection headache in midfield, a nice headache to have after the lack of options over the last few years, especially when you consider how well Craig Gardner is developing as well, so we do have choices there. Be interesting to know if he'd have bought Sidwell if he knew Gareth Barry was staying!

So, a good summer, not a great one. Hopefully we can push on up to the ....... dare I mention it so early.... January transfer window, and then possibly grab a striker? If not we need a good cup run, maybe - hope and pray - some silverware and we can splash the cash next summer on an even higher quality forward?

Our latest poll asks what you think of the transfer window.

As below, Martin O'Neills' transfers to date. If I've missed any let me know. It is only rough, the latest signings were mostly undisclosed but gives us a rough idea of the ins and outs + prices paid.

FIRST SEASON 2006/2007 :

Out


Kevin Phillips WBA £700k
Matthieu Berson Levante £1m
Ulises De La Cruz Reading Free
Peter Whittingham Cardiff City £250k
Eric Djemba Djemba Quatar Free
Juan Pablo Angel New York Red Bulls Free
Milan Baros Lyon Swap
Mark Delaney Retired

Total sold £2m

In

Stiliyan Petrov Celtic £6.5m
Didier Agathe Celtic Free
Chris Sutton Celtic Free
Phil Bardsley Manchester United Loan
Gabor Kiraly Crystal Palace Loan
John Carew Lyon Swap
Ashley Young Watford £9.65m
Shaun Maloney Celtic £1.1m

Total bought £17m

Net Spend 2006/2007 £15m

SECOND SEASON 2007/2008:

Out


Gary Cahill Bolton Undisc (in region of £4m?)
Liam Ridgewell Birmingham £2m
Jlloyd Samuel Bolton Free
Lee Hendrie Sheffield United Free
Chris Sutton Retired
Steven Davis Fulham £4m
Aaron Hughes Fulham £1m
Gavin McCann Bolton £1m
Robert Olejnik Falkirk Free

Total sold £12m

In

Wayne Routledge Tottenham £1.5m
Moustapha Salifou FC Wil Undisc.
Curtis Davies West Brom Loan
Zat Knight Fulham £3.5m
Scott Carson Liverpool Loan
Harry Forrester Watford £250 000 initial fee rising on appearances
Eric Lichaj Unattached Free
Marlon Harewood West Ham Undisc (region of £3.5m?)
Nigel Reo-Coker West Ham £8.5m

Total bought £17m

Net spend 2007/2008 £5m

THIRD SEASON 2008/2009

Out:


Luke Moore (West Brom - £3.5million)
Olof Mellberg (Juventus - free)
Patrick Berger (Sparta Prague - free)
Thomas Sorensen (released)
Shaun Maloney (Celtic, £1million)

Total sold: £4.5m

In:

Curtis Davies (WBA undisclosed but around £7.5million?)
Steve Sidwell (Chelsea £5.5million)
Brad Friedel (Blackburn, undisclosed but in the region of £2 - £2.5million)
Brad Guzan (Chivas US, undisclosed, starts at around £800k up to £2m on appearances etc?)
Nicky Shorey (Reading, around £4m?)
Luke Young (Middlesbrough, around £5m?)
Carlos Cuellar (Rangers £7.8million)
James Milner (Newcastle, around £12million?)

Total bought so far: £45 000 000

Net total so far: £40 500 000.

Total spend by MON so far roughly (as some are undisclosed fees) £60 500 000

*Loan fees not included. Figures rounded up or down. Only a rough guideline!*




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday September 2 2008

Time: 10:32AM

Your Comments

Brilliant,We will do very well up until jan and go bac in and get a striker.But i bet a few were staring at ssn and the robiniho thing getting all moody like little kids,They have a little brazilian baby who is raping their club for 6 million a year and will ***** off when chelsea or barca come in for him in 2 years or so.I will take our policy of buying hungry players who want to do well on the pitch over "big name" money grabbing ****`s any day of the week.
lerneravfc
Apparently there is a jounalist in Brazil who believes Robinho may think he's joined man utd as no-one over there has heard of city. LOL. So hope it's true.
Mister Mick
After a shakey start MON made real progress. I don't think we've signed any donkeys and we now have something that looks like a proper squad. Still think we're a bit light at the back and a 20+ goals a season striker would be gr8, but now the hard works been done next summer we could be spending this summers entire budget on 1 player.(well 2 then or am i getting carried away?)
Mister Mick
Sadly Mister Mick, the way things are going, we will have to spend the same as this window's total spend on just two players and they will be mediocre players. This city thing doesn't wory me in terms of footbal this season but it puts into question the future stability of world club football to a greater degree than even Abramovic did.
Villan Of The North
Solid sound squad we're developing. Young hungry players. Exciting times ahead folks.
evoflash
Yup. Not bad. Milner can always play up-front, or Ash, if needs be. Time for the football to begin.
olafthegreat
I'm happy with the players that we've brought in - a proven striker (Ashton, Roque Santa Cruz) would have turned a good window into a great one. We now need to be patient for another game or two while the squad gels.
GCR_villlan
Ash to inside forward is an interesting thought, I think he would do it well. I just feel there has been a lack of adventure in the signings. everything was set for him, not so sure that MON really delivered.
Gordonsleftboot
Could have been worse but we're still signing to many "squad type" players who are unlikely to make us serious Top4 contenders. Maybe the penny will drop sometime that "when you pay peanuts....". It's no secret why the Top4 Clubs are unassailable - they pay more in wages and transfers than the other clubs - but despite this they still make satisfactory trading profits and therefore keep the owners satisfied. So how long has O'Neill now got. I can't think of any manager Villa have had in the last 20 years (except GT) who would'nt have done more, with Lerner's backing.
villacross
Our next spend this summer..... wait for it... £3million.... Yourselves, City and spurs are going to leave us behind...
EvertonMike
Net not next*
EvertonMike
Overall not bad and we have a squad where all are in contention to play unlike last season even if the numbers are more or less the same. Disappointed we didn't add to our striking options though. Next summer is the big one where instead of shopping at BHS we need to start shopping at Selfridges. Only problem is it's going to get harder when Man City start flexing their muscles.
Silent-Bob
I think MON has delivered safe signings... What he has brought in is just as you'd expect from him, proven quality without it being spectacular. You can see why he does this, it's more to do with attitude that he can work with than the highest of flair talent... I think he goes for the flair when the attitude backs it up, ie... ashley young.... But it would definitely have been nice to see our boss go in for a few gambles if it meant taking a risk on a player who really could shine... But he knows more about building a dressing room's morale than any of us so we have to trust he knows what he's doing. To date we have no reason to doubt him.
johnnyuk
really don't want to be competing with man city for money players. The one big advantage villa have over all other clubs is the amount of quality english based players we have. You want to get in the england squad sign for the villa. haven't seen any quotes from robinho but it stinks like the tevez and masch transfer and west ham almost got relegated that year
_aron_
I'll declare myself pretty happy with the window. I've wanted Milner back ever since he was recalled a couple of seasons ago, so am well pleased with that piece of business. Friedel is top class, Guzan looked promising at the Olympics, Shorey and Luke Young are both capped by England, Cuellar by all accounts could be the buy of the summer, Sidwell I've liked ever since he destroyed us a couple of years ago and we've tied down Curtis. All of the above with the exception of Friedel are young and can be moulded into a team to grow together and play for at least three or four seasons and we needed a keeper to come straight in and take the no. 1 shirt. No spectacular signings but good, young, hard working players. Yes, all things considered, I'm very pleased.
Jon.H
I am so glad the Heskey bid did not work out, although tbh, I am beginning to worry about Gabby going off the rails. He seems too self obsesed at the moment and I am discounting the NoW report in saying this. As it is, unless Delfouneso really comes good in the next few months, Gabby will have no real competition for his place. Unless he drastically tightens his thinking, regardless of his natural talent he could be another spectacular failure. Other than that I am well satisfied with the newcomers.
Obediah
Not bothered about city. I smell difficult times ahead for them. I don't believe Hughes asked for Berbatov, Robinho etc. when a couple of day's before he was only interested in raiding his former club. I think the new boss' chose the signing's and don't think Hughes will put up with that for long. Money worked at Chelsea because they already had quality and were having success in cup compititions. Man City will try and move too fast (already say they expect top 4) and it could backfire with years of turmoil if the manager isn't given a chance and aloud to do things his way. Learner & Co should be the example others follow. IMO.
Mister Mick
fantastic window! the Robinho to city thing felt sort of empty to me, and he is a bit of a spoilt cry baby, and Real Madrid could not wait to see the back of him. but i think we have done really well. Cuellar is very fine and should be in the Spanish team, he and Laursen as a centre pairing will be as good as any. the others are solid, and i expect Sidwell to get very good. on top of all of this, we wear a charity on our strip, and that is a great signing as well!
leftfoot
brilliant, would have been nice to have got RSC or Ashton, but on the whole the balance, strength and depth has been developed massively. numbers wise we are there or there abouts and only a few more additions away from being a really strong squad. but for me the balance of the team has been improved massively. cheers mon and thank you little baby jesus for randy lerner. RANDY RANDY RANDY
Stig
Interestingly, Steve Coppell has publically said that no late bids came in for Doyle. Either he's lying (which i can't imagine he'd have any reason to) or the papers were way off as usual about us targeting him... Ther are even reports they were holding out for 10m from us, which sounds stupid money for the guy. Either way, goes to show you never know what goes on behind the scenes with MON and co.
johnnyuk
Other than the lack of an addtional striker, I couldn't have asked for much more this window...be interesting to see whether we try to add in January - I think if we're still playing in the Uefa there will be definate addtions.
Mayo_12
I think another shwred window by MON if you look at who we have bought in over the last 2 years you can see his mastery at work. If you think about the swap of Baros for Carew, Ashley Young. Those 2 alone are amazing. Petrov took his time to get aclimated but seems in today prices had you paid 6.5 million for him we would be pleased with him. The next year he buys Davies who fantastic and it quick NRC, the Hare and Routledge who at 1.5 is going to be a great bit of business. This year is very promising, Milner, Sidwell, Cuellar being the stand outs as someone on this site quite righly states in MON we trust.
NY Villa
There is still time to get a striker in, did we not sign Curtis Davies on loan before taking him on perm this summer? Really happy with the signings we have made this summer, we can move up to next level. Not CL but good pos in league and a few good cup runs. Good run in UEFA is essential as this can further raise Villa's profile in Europe thus attracting better players. Only reason players will go to City is for the cash, do Villa want players like that? UTV
Mutley73
I go along with the others here who are pretty happy with this transfer window. Don't forget that early in the summer we knew who was going and that would leave us with a very small squad. We broke our transfer record again, bought Davies, Cuellar and Milner who are seriously class players (who the **** can call them squad players?) and added strength in depth in most positions. we sorted out the problem positions at the back that we've all been bitching about for a season. We bought 8 players in, in the right positions with a blend of experience, youth and Britishness for the same price that ScumU and Citteh bought one or two players. Yes, we would have liked berbatov but he was never going to come here once ScumU was on the cards so let's not beat ourselves up. So how else can we view it other than a successful and wel-bought set of transfers? Well done MON and especially Randy for supplying the dosh and staying out of the limelight; bravo!
AllanW
Davies, Cuellar and Milner - none would play regularly for a serious Top4 team but then I can't ever see Villa regaining their former glory with the meagre pay structure still operating.
villacross
If you base the transfers on last seasons finishing positions, where Everton finished above us, looking at who we've bought, and who Everton have bought, I can only say that its been a very successful window for us, and i feel we have improved our team no doubt, pompey finished below us and have bought well, but not exceptional, citeh have bought what they could!, and that leaves spurs, who continue to shop at lidl's buying anything foriegn that might just turn out to be OK, for me i'll stick with MON buying all our shopping M&S.
eltoro
*at M&S, know idea where amp; came from i never typed that!!
eltoro
*Marks and spencers, whats going on JP!
eltoro
I think for me the biggest worry isn't that we haven't got the quality to compete for 4-5th position against other teams, it's whether or not MON can get them playing together as a unit like last season quickly enough. It took a good 6 months before Ash started hitting his heights. I personally think we'll be about 7-8th in the league this season and would consider that a success for a team with lots of new signings.
johnnyuk
I love the signings - if anyone needs further proof of the popularity of our signings just look at the reactions from other clubs - we have not unsettled players or lured them with 'double you rmoney deals' we have taken decent Premiership (or Championship in the case of Reading) players guaranteed first team football and worshipped by fans by just talking of our ambition and the prospect of workign with O'Neill. Blackburns best player - most would say RSC, Bentley or Friedel - we got Friedel. Reading - Shorey got him! Middlesborogh player of the year - Young! 2nd pick in MLS - Guzan! WBA best player by a mile was Davies. Newcastles most improved and consistent player and best midfielder - the man Keegan wanted to build the team around - Milner and we got him!!! Rangers and Scotlands Player of the year Cuellar and look at the reaction from the Rangers fans when he was sold and we got Cuellar!!! Sidwell helped Reading to an amazing first Premiership season - he left and they got releagated!!! We are going to other good sides and taking their best players without upsetting rival chairmen and managers ie. in a PROFESSIONAL manner!! Its like losing Barry, Laursen or Young for Boro, Reading, Blackburn or Newcastle fans!! Anyone unhappy with our signings should go throught the 19 other Premiership sides, look at their INS and OUTS and ask who you would swap places with!!! Well done Martin and Randy!!!
deano.avfc
deano.avfc - Villa deserve nothing but the best -so the answer to your question is obvious - I'd swap our senior squad for any of the Top4 squads including LPool. Why shouldn't we be setting our sights on the best players in Europe instead of being satisafied with signings like Shorey, Knight and Harewood. They wouldn't even be on the bench at United or Arsenal. Don't tell me the top players won't come to Clubs outside the Top4 -Man City have just blown that myth!
villacross
I have to agree with Deano, I just want players who want to play for us, overnight success isn't the be all and end all for me a happy club atmosphere, fans and players (my opionion I suppose). Very pleased we have more balance now with threats on both wings, be interesteing when Sidwell, the Fonz and Ceullar are thrown into the mix.
tarzan
well said villacross,, we really should be after players like robinho ,, if not on a regular basis lets get one superstar in !!!!!!!!!!! we deserve it as long suffering fans oneil has been told he can spend up to 30m on 1 player if he wanted to so WHY THE ***** WON THE ?!??!?!
villian?umhu
* wont
villian?umhu
marks and spencers
villian?umhu
Seems to me some fans think we have a god given right to success. We don't, you can't buy it , you have to earn it. Lerner and MON will get us there but untill we show we can cut it with the big boys on a regular basis the real quality will go to the Real's and Chelski's. So what if Citeh got Robinho, he just went for the money and in january/ the summer will do a berbatov.
Mister Mick
Platini is set on making sure there is a level playing field in football and says UEFA have already punished teams in other countries for running up massive debts. He believes if a club can't sustain itself it should be banned from CL football. If he gets his way that's Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and now Man C who would be banned from european football. Lerner has put in a structure that inables villa to sustain itself in the future and not rely on the chairman funding his favourite toy.
Mister Mick
Im pretty chuffed wit MONs strenghtening. The players we bought were exactly the sort that would fit straight in to our team. Mon has a bit of a laid back attitude towards the window and i do feel he could have bought anotha RB and striker. On the whole a very good summer for us. Anyone else hate man city?
medzy
nooooooooooooman city and chelski have no debts its out abramovic n arabian gods pockets actually bud !
villian?umhu
Thats what Platini is saying. Clubs should be able to fund themselves on the income they generate. To keep going cap in hand to the chairman for his personal fortune Platini calls cheating.
Mister Mick
Villacross/Vllian?umhu?: Man C got their player because of 200K a week and we can't afford that and that is the ONLY reason why he went there. Villa have been 5hite for a decade now whereas Chelsea, Man U, LFC, and Arsenal have all been there or thereabouts and generating huge revenue and media profile - that is why the big players go there and that is why we are still playing catch up and will be for 3-4 years unless a MASSIVE OIL MOGUL takes us over. Come on boys, get real. We're doing well, justbe happy with some progress forward rather than being like West Ham and Newcastle.....
koolbill
p.s. last two seasons not included.
koolbill
Overall I must admit to being fairly happy, certainly a lot happier than I was when driving back from Lincoln City. I would have liked another striker or two, and I would have liked where possible to have brought the new faces in earlier, but with regards the signings, yes, I'm definitely quite pleased.
glensider
Maybe with a shortage of options up front, Nathan Delfouesno and Adam McGurk will get opportunities. Both lads have potential, and look decent prospects, the odd showing here and there certainly wont do them any harm.
glensider
Great window...really irritates me when people say we should go after a 30million star...this isn't football manager!
Villa4Europe
I know this is off topic, but wanted to mention it. Did anyone notice that Gabby Agbonlahor barely turned up on Sunday? Well i've just been speaking to my girlfriend, who knows his ex-gf and apparently he's been out drinking quite alot lately, throwing wild parties and this doesn't really go down well after various recent headlines. http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/article19294.ece I know he's still young etc etc, but what if he's going off the rails?? People who know him are all saying everything has gone to his head. It would be such a waste, not to mention bad PR for the club. I just hope MON sorts this one out before it gets really out of hand.
Villan-in-Cyprus
 

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