Bentley Bid Over & Barry Still Wants Out

Is this Groundhog Day for us or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone really think we were going to sign him? same old story

sorry, a good chance....

There is an equal chance we will be sat here in August with the same amount of players. Hardly fills you with amibition reading stories like this does it...its already cost us Barry what else is it likely to cost us?

Could not agree more Tez 86. How demoralising is this article. I'm starting to get worried about next season, sidwell only signin, Guzan who has no premier experience. When are we going to see players arriving instead of new stories made up by the papers and no actual action in the transfer market. I'm suprised we are no longer after bentley, i know he has an attitude problem, but MON can sort that out, and lennon has nothing except pace, Milner has good skill but no pace whereas bentley with the right coaching from the MON team could be a bit special for the Villa. I appreciate we are after quality players, not just anyone who is going to be a one season wounder, but us Fans need players arriving so we can see that we are going to maintain our assault on the top 4, cause at the moment I wounder which direction we are heading in. I keep reminding myself of the famous reo-coker quote "Rome was not built in a day and neither will villa" and that hopefully players will come to get excited about.

I'm sorry but this is dead simple, if Barry wants to join Liverpool he must hand in a transfer request... end of. I don't rate Barry that highly anyway. The Bentley transfer appears like old news, I hear Blackburn want 19m for him, well is he worth that? If you ask me he's double the price to us.

Most villains would say that Barry is worth more than Bentley, this is all this story really says to me. I don´t see any need to be too frustrated by this news, even though it is clearly not good. Also this could be part of a complicated negotiation given that we look to be trying to get Friedel too. No need to annoy Blackburn. Tez86 there has been no evidence that Barry is leaving due to any lack of ambition on villas part or transfer market inactivity.

Barry has always said that he wanted to see us show some ambition and although he does want to play Champions League football if we could have shown him we are trying to mount a serious challenge with the top four I think he may well have/will stay to see us do it.

to late for barry now but players like laursen and reo are coming out saying that the big names will come,lets hope so because if not sounds like their going to be as dissapointed as us

I've had plenty of beer tonight, and am off on holiday for a week in the morning so may regret this discussion at a later date. I have major concerns about the regime at Aston Villa. The growing belief that perhaps the ownership isn't the Messiah we'd all hoped for is starting to pervade my vision. I firmly believe that David Bentley is a player Mr O'Neill wants (as per his bid). Tell me why we would have one bid rejected and then decide not to go any further please? Clearly the price was too high. I see no other logical explanation. Enlighten me by all means. My Home-Brew is powerful stuff, and perhaps I'm missing a major wing to my library, but money is the only barrier I can see. I'd have the faith if our bid was accepted and the player said "no thanks mate, I hate Villa". But no, all I see is one bid rejected and an "ok mate we'll not bother thanks, that price is too high". I put it to you that something at Villa, be it Mr O'Neill, Mr Lerner, or the Villa Park cat, has a measure of expenditure that limits our potential achievements. Hence Mr Bentley not being bid for at the higher price. __________________________________________________________________ Of course this brings into play my own personal opinion that Mr Bentley is quite probably the best right sided player this country has seen since Beckham, and one of the best I've ever seen. This isn't the forum for that argument. Mr O'Neill has the belief too (again, hence the bid). __________________________________________________________________ I go away for a relaxing beach holiday this week. I get back next Saturday after the 2nd leg. I'm going to remove my Villa shirt from my suitcase. Hard as it may be, I'm not going to read the newspapers in Turkey (as if they're even in English), nor will I trawl the web. I refuse to ask any other Brits I see to borrow their paper. I'm taking a holiday from Villa. When I come back we might be out of Europe with no more signings (or worse a bunch of ex-blues players), or we could be in the final qualifying round with a number of legend signings. I'll find out next week. __________________________________________________________________ We're all on the same side, and I hope we're all smiling soon.

Fear stop lying, we know you have a bank account to pay for his transfer, just get him signed up JP

guys, either you have faith or you don't. MON is the best manager we've had for years. Just wait and be patient. It sounds like he's working his **** off to get players in. But its not easy getting players when they are contracted to another club. Just ask the fat spanish waiter. He's not a loser and do you seriously think he'd still be around if Learner wasn't going to back up his promises to support him in the transfer market. I think you should fill up your half empty glasses with beer and be gratefull for what we've got. I bloody well am. Do you remember what it was like 2 years ago?

There also seems to be a lot of negativity regarding the Odense game, well the team which is most likely to start 2moro's game, with the exception of 3 players is similar to last season, and did a fantastic job so why cant they continue that? Likely line up for 2moro - TAYLOR, Gardner, Laursen, Knight, Bouma, ROUTLEDGE, SIDWELL, Reo-Coker, Young, Agobonlahor, Carew. The players in caps are the player who have changed compared to last season, Taylor - there seems to be a fair few who would like to see him given a chance and when called upon last season did well, Sidwell a quality player who the majority of fans were thrilled to have at the club, and Routledge another player still young, with bags of potential and with a bit of confidence flowing could be a massive asset to the team! So if you look at it, a team slightky different to last season but still bags of quality - so why can't they up their game against Odense? The FC Zurich and Lincoln defeat will have no bearings on the performace 2moro. No doubt M'ON will have the lads geared up and raring to get going on the night!

Well said JOHN.CAREWS.CREW I for one am still keeping the faith and expect us to be safely into the UEFA cup come the end of these matches.On the Barry saga I wish he would just **** off I'm sick of him,he has shown no remorse for his stroppy comments in the papers and it would be good to get shot of him if old garlic breath can cough the cash.To tell the truth I'm not sure about Bentley I'd rather see Milner come in and if he was bought along with Miguel we would all be a lot happier.So you see 2 more signings and all would seem pretty rosy in the Villa park garden.

tonybrum & voiceoftheholte - well said. It's about time these whingers took a look at where we are these days as opposed to 2 years back. The fact that we're even bidding for Bentley suggests how far we've come in that time period. I understand the disappointment at not signing - potentially - one of England's best talents, but come on moaners. You've got to have faith in the guy who has taken us from near relegation to 6th in 2 years haven't you? Or would you like to see DOL back at the helm? We could go back to being fizzy pop league candidates, dazzling people with our s**t football along the way. Maybe we'll get Ellis in again as well just for good measure eh? Then he can take down the mosaic at the back of the Holte, rip out the 82 lounge that's just been finished, ditch Bodymoor Heath and get a multigym from Argos, undo the work to the changing rooms that's been done this summer, demand the £2m back from Acorns and get 'flybe' instead, jack in Nike and get Diadora - or KiaOra, and turn the Holte pub back into a s***hole. And don't forget the other little things that we wouldn't have, like free coaches, new club crest, new shirts etc etc. In fact yeah - I'm with you moaning b******s. Please take me back to those glorious days!!!!!!!!!!! MON comes from the Clough mold/regime - as does John Robertson - and, in my opinion, is trying to build a harmonious dressing room/club/team in the image of that Forest side that won 2 European cups which will be no bad thing for anyone who remembers them. My first trip to Villa Park in 1979 saw us get a hammering from them - JR was awesome as well if my memory serves me. It was all about the team with Cloughie, and I suspect it's no different with MON. So something tells me that there is a trait in Bentley's personality that he's not too keen on - we all know he fancies himself as the new Beckham, and so maybe he would upset the apple cart with his attitude. Maybe MON had a few doubts so has chosen not to bid any higher. Who knows? As far as I'm concerned he is the manager, and from what we've seen so far a very good one, and we should support him 100%. It may be that this season we take a step backwards after continuous leaps forward so I'm prepared for that too, but no doubt should that happen then the bad vibe merchants will be peddling their evil moans and groan to anyone who'll listen..............just don't come and sit near me eh? Up The Villa.

So a bid gets rejected and thats that? No wonder we aren't fecking signing anyone! Try going back in with a 2nd, 3rd and 4th bid you muppet!

good post evoflash, I do honestly think you are wrong for one main reason, if Randy wasn't supplying the funds, MON would be the first to say he hasn't the budget without selling as it is MON's reputation on the line. HE has said quite the opposite, the money is there.

just because MON has said he's not interested anymore doesn't mean he's not. I wouldn't at all be surprised if we put another bid in later, as dealings in the transfer window progress. Blackburn are not a rich club. They don't have a billionaire behind them and he'll need be sold this season to cash in on their asset as he's in the last year of his contract. I think we've got no chance of getting Downing can't see him being allowed to leave, a fair chance of getting SWP but I still wouldn't write off Bentley. Maybe MON has written off Bentley, but then again maybe he hasn't and he's just playing the transfer window game. How can you tell what he's thinking? I can't, but it doesn't worry me.

Sidwell is this years Reo-Coker, now i'm just waiting for the Salifou. And expect that to be as much business as we do. Same old, same old.

Bentley - we bid for him, substantially more than Spurs according to the General and the player didn't want to come so MON has moved on. At the end of the day you can't force a player to sign for you if he doesn't want to and if he would rather be somewhere else then thank you and good luck. The point is though, we DID bid so obviously the money is there. Also Bentley is one player, he isn't a right back, a goalkeeper, a centre half, a back up left back or a striker. We need cover/first choice in all of these positions and if the reports are correct, by this time next week we shall have two new 'keepers at the very least. Things are going on, moves are being made and things will work out. By the way, we have Routledge for wide right and I am old enough to remember a young right winger for Crystal Palace tearing us apart a couple of years back. I have a sneaking feeling that he may surprise a few this season. Also Ash can switch to wide right if required with Maloney on the left. So it's not as if that position is the most pressing of our needs at the moment although Bentley would have been welcome all the same. The right back situation is dire and I must admit that I can't believe that two years down the line we are still without one but MON has proved to be single minded in his pursuit of who he considers to be the right players so I am hopeful he will get the quality he is after. All in all I don't think there is any need to panic just yet, we have a decent enough side to put out and do a job against Odense, players are coming in (slowly!!!) and we are still a club very much on the up!!!!!!

No sign of Eircol anywhere i see. Once again exposed as being full of s**t. excellent

It appears that everyone is assuming that Bentley didn't want to join us. MON doesn't say that. He DOES say our bid was rejected and we move on. Now, maybe he doesn't want to admit Bentley doesn't want to join us or we're not prepared to bid more I don't know but the quote does NOT say Bentley rejected us.

Defoe wasn't bid for, so not right to say he didn't want to come.

Aspinall & The Fear: Obviously Cloughie has nothing to do with the modern day game - he's dead for a start! God rest his soul. But what I was getting at was the fact that Clough wouldn't tolerate 'superstar' behaviour from his players - anyone who upset the apple cart would not be tolerated and the team came first before any individual. MON is cut from that same managerial cloth having played under him for all those years. It didn't do Forest any harm did it? And I don't think it will do us any either. Maybe that's why the Bentley bid is over.

Yeah I suppose you're right Mr Fear. Maybe we DO need our own big-headed, self-centered, arrogant, obnoxious, flash, bigger-than-the-club superstar footballer to break the top four. Maybe our players are just too.....'nice'. What is MON doing? SORT IT OUT!! GO GET BENTLEY!!!;-)

Terrible dress sense though by all accounts.