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Arsenal Have Enquired About Villa's Gareth Barry

Martin O’Neill has confirmed the recent rumour that Arsenal have made an enquiry about Villa and England midfielder Gareth Barry.

It appears, with a stalemate in the valuation between Liverpool and Villa and neither party seemingly willing to change their stance, that a move to the Emirates might well be a route for our former favourite to leave.

O'Neill told the Sun that an enquiry has been made and that the Gunners are now thinking things over.

'Myself and Steve Walford both know Arsene Wenger’s assistant Pat Rice. He phoned Steve to ask how the Liverpool thing had gone and said that they might show an interest. At the end of the conversation Arsenal said ‘that’s fine’ and that they’ll let us know. That is exactly what happened.'

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The Journalist

Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday July 15 2008

Time: 8:29AM

Your Comments

i would prefer he go to arsenal rather than liverpool
Astonian Villan
He is too expensive for them even if we let him go for 15mil. Wenger likes to take young stars and mould them into the arsenal way. I cant see it happening at all.
Tez86
Barry's not quick enough for Wenger's nippy midfield! (Meeow!)
pongogidman
Arsenal might try and off load some players to make up the gap in what they can afford. please God not Senderos! Just keep Barry until January, we are not in any rush.
Fletch
Nothing in this at all really, no sign of genuine interest, just a mild enquiry I tihnk. However, I'd much prefer Barry to go to the Arse than to the red scum.
romanianvillain
If Villa want to sell him to Arsenal they have done themselves no favours by going public ..... however I feel this is more of a way of getting Liverpool to get their finger out of their arses!! That said .... I wouldn't mind seeing Barry in an Arsenal shirt ... it would look strange though.
Rocky7
There might be something in this but O'Neill going public with it is just his way of ensuring he gets the price he wants, put a bit of pressure on L'Pool.
Villan Of The North
We wouldnt pay 18 mil for him. Maybe a swap deal & cash involving Hoyte
paul_ownz
It does seem that MON is putting pressure on Pool coz Arsenal prefer to do their business in private and not have it announced to the world in this manner. However, there were some rumours 2 weeks back on the Arsenal forum that Wenger was keeping an eye on the Barry situation, so this adds up. The interest might well be genuine. Barry is a good player, and is already used to the pace and rigours of the Premiership and this might be a good move for Arsenal, save for the price which seems too steep for Wenger.
prits
I'd expect justin hoyte to be part of the deal and also walcott on loan for a season plus cash.
johnmurphy3112
Will this actually put any pressure on Liverpool? I don't even know if I can believe Martin on this one. "Arsenal said ‘that’s fine’ and that they’ll let us know. That is exactly what happened." Sounds a bit sus to me
PTP
I'd take £6Million + Theo Walcott and Barry's all yours.
Villan-in-Cyprus
Good idea Villan-in-Cyprus, though I'd want 8 million + Walcott.
romanianvillain
lol you drive a hard bargain romanianvillain.
Villan-in-Cyprus
I came on here last month and said I felt MON was being every bit as petty as Rafa in this transfer saga, obviously with the intention of driving the price up by commenting on the transfer in the media on three consecutive days. Now MON is making Arsenal's apparent interest public, I have to ask how he can have the gall to criticise Rafa?
Little Dutch
Bacause he's not a fat Spanish waiter and Rafa is :oP
Villan Of The North
Exactly my point LD, O'Neill just did what he slated Liverpool for doing, conducting transfer business in public. So by your own definition Villa fans, his actions are disgraceful.
JohnDoe
Is the difference that MON said to Rafa that Barry was unavailable, then Rafa said the opposite. Here MON is stating the content of a phone call of potential interest. I think MON is trying to drive up the price of Barry though.
FreidelNo.1
i wouldnt want walcott, you only have to fart near him and he flies off the ball
Astonian Villan
Don't think Wenger will let Walcott go anytime soon. And even if he does, i would prefer a more clinical striker who will be able to score the 20+ goals a season Villa need.
JOHN.CAREWS.CREW
This is what O'Neill said at the time of our first bid, “I’m particularly disappointed to hear that business is being conducted in public. “It’s certainly not the way that the Liverpool of old conducted business. I prefer to do things with a bit or privacy and a bit of confidentiality." Sure you O'Neill, that's why you confirm Arsenal's interest in public. How do you define hypocrisy?
JohnDoe
John Doe....you have to fight fire with fire at times, its a very intelligent move by MON. FAR more intelligent than the absolute disgrace of tapping up by FAT BOY WAITER. Please Wenger put in a 14Million offer and Barry is all yours.
KSarge1
John, Rafa was talking about buying a player from us, before an important game. Barry admited it unsettled him and Rafa had no right to do that. MON on the other hand is the manager of our team, MON can comment on who's interested in Barry whenever he wants because its MON who's selling him.
PTP
When O'Neill does it, it's an intelligent move, when Rafa does it, it's a shameful and disgraceful act!!!!!
JohnDoe
JohnDoe, you are missing the point. Barry is our player, therefore we can say that we have received an enquiry because it is our business. Rafa talks about other clubs players, who are under contract and haven't said anything to the press about leaving until he opens his mouth. If I remember correctly didn't Rafa say earlier on in the window that Gerrard was not for sale when Inter Milan were being linked to him. He has every right to do that as Gerrard is his player. Just the same as MON can say we have had interest about Barry from Arsenal.
notthedougellisstand
Barry has now declared his willing to go to a top 4 team. This would not have happened if the tappings from the 2 scousers had not happened first. As he is going and MON wants him out he can talk about whoever he wants to. Big difference JohnDoe, yet again you don't look at the facts of the larger picture and just centre on a small piece to prove your small petty point. Think MON is just winding up Rafa by saying that Pat Rice is mates with them all and speak regularly etc whereas Rafa and his cronies have been ex-communicated by all the Villa staff bar-one.
Villan444
oh ***** off johndoe, Barry is OUR player therefore we can say what we like, he is NOT another clubs player therefore we are NOT unsettling him without the permission of HIS club. The situation is COMPLETELY different. What dont you understand?
romanianvillain
No bid, no problem. If Arsenal had lodged an official enquiry we wouldn't have heard about it. Straws and still clutching come to mind.
mike_field
Barry is your player, but it's Arsenal's interest that he confirmed. If Arsenal wanted to make their interest public, they would've done it themselves. No matter how you try to excuse it, it's conducting transfer business in public. Something that O'Neill slated Liverpool for doing.
JohnDoe
JohnDoe's just worried that Barry will end up at a top4 club this season.
The Usual Suspect
Its not Arsenals right to make it public! You are also forgetting the season has ended and we are in transfer season now so its not going to unsettle any players talking about potential transfers befor e big games.
Tez86
JohnDoe you still miss the point don't you ? If he is our player and Arsenal have shown an interest then we can declare it. Blackburn have done the same with our interest in Bentley. It comes down to the fact that he is our player and we aren't going to try and unsettle our own player but we are going to try and get the best value for him. That isn't against Premier League rules, unsettling players is but when you are a top 4 club you can do as you please. We all know that don't we ?
notthedougellisstand
Also John - MON was asked a direct question, and he answered it directly. As Romanianvillain stated, there is no unsettling because he is our player. When rafa made his statements our season wasn't finished, and Barry was still playing for us. Now it looks like he's off anyway - thats the difference. Arsenal won't mind anyway - the way they are haemorrhaging players they need to be linked to a few to settle their fans down.
The Usual Suspect
notthedougellisstand, you're the one who misses the point. Go back to O'Neill's quotes that I posted earlier. He said that transfer business should be done with a bit of privacy and a bit of confidentiality. Where was the privacy and confidentiality in making Arsenal's interest public? He only did it to put some pressure on Liverpool to complete the Barry transfer, so he's is conducting transfer business in public, and that proves that he's a hypocrite. By the way, Ince confirmed your interest in Bentley after news of your bid were leaked to the press, even your local press in Birmingham, how is that different from what happened with Barry?
JohnDoe
John,it isn't right to declare interest in a player before making the official moves through an agent or rep....Liverpool know this and rode roughshod over it because Rafa thinks he is managing Mini Real! There has never been any negativity surrounding commenting on another clubs willingness to buy your OWN player - EVER. Please accept that Rafa publicly unsettled OUR player in order to - 1) Unsettle hm and make sure the 3 points were lost by Villa or at least two! And - 2) Because he has no respect for Villa or most other teams and will say what he likes. Please do accept that a CLUB can speak about enquiries for IT'S OWN players as this doesn't unsettle them and is not underhand. And please understand that MON slated Liverpool for talking about OTHER clubs players...he has never once come out and said "IT'S DISGRACEFUL THE WAY LIVERPOOL KEEP TELLING CHELSEA TO ****C OFF OVER TORRES...AND AS FOR TORRES SAYING HE DON'T WANT TO GO THEM, I'D BAN THE DIEGO B'STARD FROM TRAINING!" Get it now. No offence meant with the tone of the response by the way...like your input and difference of opinion. ;-))
koolbill
No, what he said is that it should be conducted correctly. If Arsenal have made an enquiry then we can make this public as he is OUR player. That is the point. We are not doing anything wrong by discussing our player. If Barry was your player and we had made an enquiry then I would expect you to make it public because this will generate interest. Unless I'm mistaken the transfer system is a Capitalist market, therefore players will go to the highest bidder. Consequently we are going to attempt to generate more interest. Also, how do you know our bid for Bentley was leaked to the press ? Everyone of the nationals stated Bentley was going to Spurs yesterday and no mention of Villa having made a bid. Ince still could have chosen to keep quiet if he wanted but he was talking about HIS player so can say whatever he wishes and wants to create a bidding war between Villa and Spurs. He is well within his rights to do that. Finally, what has it got to do with you what MON says about Barry and Arsenal ? I didn't see him mention Liverpool in that quote so I think you should just keep out of our business.
notthedougellisstand
John - If your little club had any money we wouldn't be having this conversation, Barry would be your player already. How are you liking all these players you're signing on frees? I guess you couldn't get David Villa on a free then...
The Usual Suspect
Mind you if you sell Caragher and Benayoun and Carson maybe then you can afford Barry.
The Usual Suspect
koolbill, there are much easier ways to make Barry aware of Liverpool's bid than by leaking it to the press. A simple phone call to him or his agent does the trick. Also, do you really thing that Liverpool want to help Everton reach the UEFA cup instead of Villa? We didn't leak the news of the bid to the press, as the journalist who wrote the article in question admitted.
JohnDoe
Still missing the point aren't you John? Why do you even care?
The Usual Suspect
'Ppreciate what you're saying John but it is clear that someone in LFC leaked it and it was probably Gerrard as Rafa does discuss his inbound strategy with him...and we know Gerrard likes a cjheeky text like the one he sent to Jose: "I'M COMING". Point is, our player our right to talk about interest and your player your right, not your player not right...Both managers messeed up though after as both wanted the last word and needed to show their fans their steele or silence would've been anything but golden!...but i think MON was justified to the last word and by jove he's got it with this little nugget of info. I'm sure MON would've told the press that LFC had lodged a bid as he has done ever since...but this is not comparable with Rafas dealings. End of the day if we find a gem like Cruz or McCarthy (or Keane!!!) then LFC will be looking over their shoulders.
koolbill
"He said that transfer business should be done with a bit of privacy and a bit of confidentiality." Yes but as both Liverpool and Barry himself have gone to the papers then MON is right to treat them accordingly. MON has no more time for GB and wants him shot of ASAP. Why should he wait around for Liverpool to pawn enough hubcaps to be able to afford him. GB said that he wants out so MON is trying to court potential buyers by letting it known that he is for sale.
Villan444
koolbill, It's not clear that someone at LFC leaked it, it's more likely that Barry's agent that leaked it. If we go by your same reasoning then it's clear that someone at Villa leaked the news of your bid for Bentley, is that the case? Villan444, the first one to come out publicly in the Barry transfer saga is O'Neill, and he's been talking about it in the press the most. "MON is trying to court potential buyers by letting it known that he is for sale" Which is conducting transfer business in public, something he slated Liverpool for doing.
JohnDoe
John Doe really does have difficulty understanding the difference between talking about a player who is under contract to YOUR club and talking about a player that is under contract to ANOTHER club. Also John, although you seem scared to answer me - if Rafa did nothing wrong, then why was he quoted in the press and on SSN the day before our wigan game in May? What was he doing talking about wanting to sign our player to the press without our permission, before our season was over? If you honestly think its the same as confirming a bid for your own player in the close season then you are actually lacking in mental efficiency.
The Usual Suspect
" if Rafa did nothing wrong, then why was he quoted in the press and on SSN the day before our wigan game in May?" Show me those quotes The Usual Suspect, I think you'll find that there are no quotes from Rafa at that time. Fact is, nobody connected to Liverpool talked about Barry until O'Neill confirmed our bid in the press.
JohnDoe
John - whatever about the agent but he weren't acting in our interests if he did that - that's for sure...You can't be serious that talking about bids for our own player is on a par with Rafa talking about our player....come on man that's just silly. Also it is SO CLEAR that Ince told the world about our bid as he hasn't come out saying "VILLA WERE RIGHT OUT OF ORDER FPR BEING PUBLIC WITHOUT BIDDING". I can't be bothered to waste my time emphasizing this anymore....your views...my views...tomatoes...tamaytas...let's call the whole thing off and he can go to Arsenal instead. Done!
koolbill
No you're right MON was complaing about how someone at your end leaked the news before our game, thereby unsettling him. All of this is beside the point anyway - Rafa's blarting in the press "Accept Barry's going to leave" "You're valuation is unrealistic" (As if Carson for £10m was ever a fair value) is shown to be BS now - it looks like you simply can't afford him. MON is well within his rights to confirm other bids. He also is convinced that your club leaked the bid before our wigan game - which is what he was convinced about. Perhaps MON wanted to give LFC a taste of their own medicine when it came to dealing with the press - It doesn't really matter though now, does it? You can't afford him, so he's either staying for a while or he's off to Arsenal.
The Usual Suspect
Just what i was typing koolbill. you got there first.
The Usual Suspect
"No you're right MON was complaing about how someone at your end leaked the news before our game, thereby unsettling him." I repeat, the journalist who wrote that article said that his source wasn't Liverpool. "He also is convinced that your club leaked the bid before our wigan game - which is what he was convinced about" He's wrong, see earlier point. "MON is well within his rights to confirm other bids" You're wrong there, other clubs don't want to be involved in a bidding war over Barry, and have no interest in making their bids public.
JohnDoe
we haven't said anything about a bidding war....FFS! Read. Comtemplate. Accept. Go home.
koolbill
What a tool this bloke this.
The Usual Suspect
is
The Usual Suspect
a tool is useful...more of a valve! or flange.
koolbill
I'm a tool!!!! Why do you think O'Neill confirmed Arsenal's interest? Just being honest? Just slipped out? He's trying to put pressure on Liverpool to finish the deal by declaring that other clubs are interested in him, same with Ince when he confirmed Villa's interest in Bentley. It's kindergarten stuff.
JohnDoe
John, does your club have the money to buy Barry? Thats the only real quesion of note here. Money talks my friend, and as the yanks would say, BS walks. Don't get upset if someone else that can afford him makes a move - you don't have a first refusal on him, even if Gerard and he are lovers.
The Usual Suspect
*question
The Usual Suspect
Have it!
koolbill
Reality is, Liverpool now havve 15m to spend...question is will they spend it on Barry with another 2-3m on top or will we accept 15m plus Finnan? If they sell Alonso then they will try to buy Keane but seeing as big boots Man U are walking into Spuds for Berbatov then you casn expect them to say naff arf Scum...this meaning that they will still want Barry as they don't want Alonso...we should get him fit for Arsenal who have a better squad to cherry pick from in part ex. Either way, LFC are in trouble....how much would I love it if Torres has amonthn or so out through injury...Gerrard can't keep lifting them the sticky stuff!!!! Show me the money!
koolbill
Please no to Arsenal deal if Theo Walcott is involved.......Justin Hoyte yes but please MON / RANDY NOT WALCOTT.
bellywipes
Walcott could be amazing if he was played every week under the right manager. He is as quick as Gabby but has an end product aswell and some tricks on the way rather than just powering around the defenders.
Villan444
JD, MON doesn't want to sell to Rafa and is on the wind up just rubbing it in. Arsenal will never pay over £10 mill for someone who they can't sell on for a profit. The story is idle chat. The only reason that he is back in training is because it will affect his current contract if he isn't allowed to train.
Villan444
Scratch the BARRY SAGA - it's now the JOHN DOE SAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!
myleftfoot
I have been having the same arguement with JohnDoe and several of his mates for weeks now. It's like talking to a tree stump. In fact several tree stumps! He is either ignorant and fails to see it, or he's too stupid to see it because he believes the LFC rhetoric, Or he is in total denial. I'm not sure which. Any ideas anyone???
gappy65
Just one more time JohnDoe in the vein hope your going to get it!!! Barry is contracted to Villa. So therefor Villa can talk about him in the press, regardless of the subject of the offre/enquiry or from who. You on the other hand can not disgus Barry because he is not contract to you. That my friend is known as tapping up, and in the laws of the game is illegal. Not that it is ever enforced...
gappy65
As usual gappy you miss the point entirely, talk about stupid. I wasn't talking about tapping up, I was talking about conducting transfer business in public, something that O'Neill slated Liverpool for doing while doing it himself with his confirmation of Arsenal's interest. That mate is hypocrisy on his part, even the Arsenal fans who posted in this article think the same.
JohnDoe
JohnDoe - just a thought, but have you ever tried logging onto this site...."http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/"? It's not as much fun as this site, but I think they have a nice colour by numbers section.
YatesyVillain
I think the point is that you are allowed to bid for players. It is acceptable to say that you have bid for players. Everyone does that. What is unacceptable is the timing of comments, trying to persuade players to come before a bid has been accepted, trying to make a player unhappy and offering golden carrots. MON hasn't done that with Bentley. He made a bid that Ince has received. MON hasn't said come play in the UEFA cup with us, come play alongside our England internationals, or tried in any way to make him unhappy. Bentley had already said he wanted to move.
supermansfoot
JohnDoe; Is talking to the press about a player contracted to another club not tapping up???? I'm affraid my friend you have missed the point yet again. You just will not understand that commenting on a player at another club without the consent of the players employer is in fact illegal in the laws of the game. If that comment is an attempt to unsettle. How can you not see that???? Villa have broken no laws or bylaws in my opinion because Barry is still contracted to us!!!
gappy65
John Doe really is an idiot if he thinks there is anything wrong with MON confirming Arsenal's interest in Barry, Why is no-one complaing about Ince confirming our bid for Barry? Or Inter's bid for Lampard? The truth is he's just wetting himself with worry because its so obvious his club is broke, and aren't going to get anyone in unless there on frees.
The Usual Suspect
Gappy - give up - its like trying to explain irony to americans - JD just isn't clever enough to understand the holes in his arguments.
The Usual Suspect
When MON made his comments to the media about the privacy of the transfer business, he gave the impression that ALL transfer business ought to be conducted in private, whether it concerns one of his players or not. And thats why his public confirmation of Arsenal's enquiry sounds hypocritical.
prits
Well then maybe he is thinking he'll give bankrupt liverpool a taste of their own medicine. As I said many times before - who cares? Either you have the money and he becomes your player, or you don't and he goes to someone that can afford him. Which is it to be?
The Usual Suspect
JohnDoe, you really do have black and white vision. Even my mum could understand this and she's a Wolves fan. Bottom line is, you CAN'T publically discuss your interest in another club's player but you CAN discuss another club's interest in one of your own players. They are completely different scenarios, what don't you get? 'A simple phone call to him or his agent does the trick.' This proves you don't understand how the transfer market works, just like your club. You ARE NOT ALLOWED (N O T A L L O W E D) or ('No permitido' en Espanol) to contact another clubs player without the permission (permiso) of the club concerned. Would you like us to draw you a picture?
Villan-in-Cyprus
I like the way prits claims to know precisely what MON intended to communicate with his comments. Me I look at what was actually said, and that is that Liverpool leaked the bid before our season was over, and MON wasn't happy about that. Where did he say anything about ALL transfer dealings? He was P***ed off because it unsettled our team while we were still fighting for the UEFA cup place. And rightly so.
The Usual Suspect
Usual; I totally agree, MON was reacting to a leak to the press! Liverpool was the the party who set the precident with the leak in the first place. So they can not come now complaining of hypocricy. Even if Rafa wasn't the one to leak firstly Gerrard certainly made a statement through the press. So for them to complain about Hypocricy is in itself Hypocricy. Thay are just making themselves out to be even more stupid with every passing hour!!
gappy65
gappy65 said "Thay are just making themselves out to be even more stupid with every passing hour!!" Harsh, very difficult to do, but sadly true!
romanianvillain
LOL ViC
Villan444
LOL @ JD
Villan444
Just spoke to my scouse mate who is mates with Gerard and sources close to Liverpool. Liverpool are actively looking at other targets now the Alonso deal has broken down. They will sign Keane before the weekend and that's all their cash used up. Diarra is their back up Barry target. The only way Barry can get his move would be to put in a transfer request to free up the necessary funds(unless Spurs or Arsenal buy Alonso)
tarzan
Did anyone else have strong suspicions from the start that Liverpool would **** this Barry thing up? Tarzan, ask your friend where the money for Liverpool's new stadium is, and watch him change the subject quick.
The Usual Suspect
Do you think we wore them down with our brutal in your face reality check comments ro do you think that mommy has taken them to the zoo for the day because of the school workers strikes!!!! Love it.
koolbill
He freely admits they've got no cash. It's Keane or Barry. But Barry must be on the blower right now to Mr 10% deciding whther to forgo the loyalty cash and put in a transfer request.
tarzan
Actually part of me would like that - Barry having to suffer a little for this "Dream move" he keeps going on about. Rather him be out of pocket than our club. He can't have it both ways. Still I believe they'll still struggle to pay for him. This really is hilarious to see.
The Usual Suspect
A move to The Emirates would surely be a considerably better career move for Barry, than would a move to Anfield? Somehow though I find it difficult to believe that Wenger would be interested in him, at first glance Barry doesn't come across as an Arsenal type player. Given the opportunity though, I think that the very vast majority of folk would think Barry would choose north London.
glensider
It would be hilarious if Barry moved for the asking price. Then the bank forcloses on the scousers and we buy him back off the administrators for 30 bob. LOL! We might even get Gerrard thrown in.
gappy65
We could even buy Torres for 3 shiney new pennies and a kt kat rapper LOL! I must admit this is quite entertaining watching the scousers squirm..
gappy65
Still no transfer demand from Barry. Surely that has to be his next option. If he wants out as bad as is suggested, why is he not forcing Villa's hand in a way that is legitimate for him. He spoke out in the press - slap in that transfer demand laddie.
glensider
I don't think he will glensider, I feel he may be having a second thought or two. I doubt he envisaged the backlash from the fans. Or the fact LFC are skint. Who in there right mind would move to a new job when you know there strapped. He must be thinking S**T what have I done???
gappy65
All transfer business is conducted between two parties, so there isn't a difference if it was about your player or not, it should be private in all cases, but you're too stupid, or too deluded, to understand. You're only making yourselves look silly the more you come out with lame excuses for the hypocritical O'Neill, but I bet that won't stop you.
JohnDoe
Villan-in-Cyprus, It's you who doesn't understand the transfer market. Talking about another club's player in the press isn't tapping up. You tapp up a player if you talk to HIM directly, not through the press, without informing his club in writing, even his club's permission isn't required. You can even talk to the players agent without it being tapping up. That's why Chelsea were found guilty of tapping up Ashley Cole, they didn't inform Arsenal in writing of their meeting, and Real Madrid, despite talking publicly about Ronaldo on numerous occasions, weren't guilty of tapping up according to FIFA. Read the third point of article 18 of the FIFA regulations on transfer of players. Is that clear or do I have to draw you a picture? http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf
JohnDoe
How long have you been following the Villa John Doe? You seem like a keen fan.
YatesyVillain
JD despite all the ins and outs. Do you want Barry? You've offered 15m over 3 years (which I would take). But I get the impression that most Scousers are totally indifferent to Gaz Baz. I hear Keane could be playing for youz by the weekend anyway. The only way this could get resolved is Barry gives up some of his transfer bonus (transfer request).
tarzan
JohnDoe, 'A club intending to conclude a contract with a professional must inform the player’s current club in writing before entering into negotiations with him.' So your point is that Liverpool intended to conclude a contract with him then? That's all very well, but read on: 'A professional shall ONLY be free to conclude a contract with another club IF his contract with his present club has expired OR is due to expire within six months.' So I guess Barry's contract has expired then has it? Or maybe it's due to expire within 6 months? Oh that's right, he has 2 years remaining. So what's your point? According to this rule you ARE NOT allowed to speak to him. Maybe you should stick to pictures as you clearly can't read.
Villan-in-Cyprus
John, Rafa was acting like he'd already signed Barry, implying that he and O'neill had discussed a deal. O'neill said in the papers that he had a phone call from Rafa and said no to his offer. I believe MON over Rafa on this anyday, thats not saying MON hasn't got his hands dirty in this issue but I do believe Rafa was wrong in going public because we were still playing football, still playing for europe, 2 months before the transfer period, and considering Rafa had already asked MON about Barry apparently 2 or 3 weeks before it hit the papers, there was nothing to be gained from making it public other than unsettling our player. In MONs recent move, how is he wrong in hyping up a bidding war for a player that everyone knows is leaving? He's trying to get some offers comming for a player who wants out. Are you trying to tell me that Liverpool did nothing wrong and didn't unsettle our Captain at an important stage of the season? And are you saying that that is on par with simply putting Gareth Barry in the window after Liverpool have effectivly turned his club/fans against him and then failed to put up the cash for him? If Liverpool can't afford him and he wants to go, the only thing we can do is try to find a club that can afford him and these days the most effective method is playing games in the press such as this supposed inquiry from Arsenal.
PTP
JD as i said before MON was complaining about the timing of the leak ahead of our wigan match. That was what annoyed him. Regardless, lets compare Rafa's BS in the press to MON. Has MON announced he is after Bentley? Sidwell? Friedel? No. He did mention Guzan but that was after Guzan had claimed contact with our club himself. Now look at that beared twit of a manager you have. "We like David Villa" - before any approach. "We like Barry" - before an offer has been accepted. "MON should accept Barry wants to leave" - Which was never actually in dispute, it was just that a bid hadn't been accepted. and now its "We like Robbie Keane" - He cant stay out of the press. But he's an idiot because its all unravelling in front of him now, and the world can see he can only afford one of his targets. Your club is broke - and the only reason you are on here complaining about MON is because you're upset that the wheels have fallen off your transfer plans. Blame your bankrupt owners, and your idiotic manager not MON. And then go and buy some more Bosmans.
The Usual Suspect
Well said PTP - but you won't get an inch from JD - he really is blind to the failings of his clubs management. Expect some more "But your manager is just as bad" nonsense next time he logs on.
The Usual Suspect
Yes JD is blind or very blissfully ignorant. That's nothing, I was talking to another of their foreign glory hunters yesterday and he reckons Liverpool have a £100M war chest!? You've gotta laugh.
Villan-in-Cyprus
I suggest a new poll: Who is most irritatingly ridiculous in most things they say? A)United4life or B)JohnDoe It's a close one I think...
Villan-in-Cyprus
We used to have our own one of those guys though, and as much as he was irritatingly ridiculous he was a good laugh. Bring back 48.
PTP
Cheers TUS, I bet there's a few Villa fans being equally Blind and stupid about the Liverpool pages though so we have to accept it.
PTP
Can I just Clarify one thing JD. Are you saying it's OK to court/unsettle a player through the pages of a news paper????
gappy65
Villan-in-Cyprus, The key word is concluding a contract. You can enter into negotiations with a player without concluding a contract. So we are allowed to speak to him after informing Villa in writing, we're not allowed to sign him without aggreeing a price with Villa. Do you understand the difference? and you say I can't read!!!! PTP, Rafa only went public after O'Neill slated him in the press. We didn't go public with the bid, he did.
JohnDoe
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The Usual Suspect
You CAN NOT hold negoiations with a player without the consent of the players current club... THat would make a total mockery of the transfer system and contracts to players and clubs....
gappy65
Actually JD - you have to agree a fee (Which you are yet to do) before you are allowed to speak to a player.
The Usual Suspect
I think JD gets all this nonesense off the play station Suspect! Holy mother we're all in the S**t if the next generations use the playstation for moral guidance! Its time to think about emigration I think...
gappy65
What confuses me is why he cares so much. Its like he's whinging that Arsenal may bid for the player - like they don't have the right and we shouldn't encourage them. Like I keep saying, if they have the money he's their player, if not he stays put or goes elsewhere. JD just ignores these facts and keeps whinging on about MON complaining in the press about the timing of the leak. There's only so many times you can argue with an idiot before you're wasting breath.
The Usual Suspect
The idiot is you The Usual Suspect, you're just too stupid to know it. gappy, I posted FIFA's rules on player transfers, I suggest you read them before calling it nonsense.
JohnDoe
So where does it say you can enter into negotiations with a player without concluding a contract and without the consent of his club? This is the scenario you are stipulating, correct?
Villan-in-Cyprus
The tranfer process works like this JD; First you make a bid, then the players club accept or decline, you then enter into negotation with the club to thrash out a fee for the player. Once the fee has been arranged you receive permission to speak to the player you then negotiate personal terms subject to a medical. THAT'S HOW IT WORK JD!!!!!
gappy65
JD; Go to the official FA web site and read the agents regulations. ait's a large document which will bore you to death but It clearly staates that no one can approach a player under contract without permission. I HOPE THIS IS THE END OF THIS NONESENSE!!!!!!!
gappy65
Interesting one there Gappy! It won't be the end however. Some people just don't get it, no matter how many times you go over it. As for JD, he tends to argue black is white and white is black anyway. Save your efforts!
Villan-in-Cyprus
 

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