Arsenal Have Enquired About Villa's Gareth Barry

He is too expensive for them even if we let him go for 15mil. Wenger likes to take young stars and mould them into the arsenal way. I cant see it happening at all.

Nothing in this at all really, no sign of genuine interest, just a mild enquiry I tihnk. However, I'd much prefer Barry to go to the Arse than to the red scum.

If Villa want to sell him to Arsenal they have done themselves no favours by going public ..... however I feel this is more of a way of getting Liverpool to get their finger out of their arses!! That said .... I wouldn't mind seeing Barry in an Arsenal shirt ... it would look strange though.

We wouldnt pay 18 mil for him. Maybe a swap deal & cash involving Hoyte

I'd expect justin hoyte to be part of the deal and also walcott on loan for a season plus cash.

I'd take £6Million + Theo Walcott and Barry's all yours.

lol you drive a hard bargain romanianvillain.

Bacause he's not a fat Spanish waiter and Rafa is :oP

Is the difference that MON said to Rafa that Barry was unavailable, then Rafa said the opposite. Here MON is stating the content of a phone call of potential interest. I think MON is trying to drive up the price of Barry though.

Don't think Wenger will let Walcott go anytime soon. And even if he does, i would prefer a more clinical striker who will be able to score the 20+ goals a season Villa need.

John Doe....you have to fight fire with fire at times, its a very intelligent move by MON. FAR more intelligent than the absolute disgrace of tapping up by FAT BOY WAITER. Please Wenger put in a 14Million offer and Barry is all yours.

When O'Neill does it, it's an intelligent move, when Rafa does it, it's a shameful and disgraceful act!!!!!

Barry has now declared his willing to go to a top 4 team. This would not have happened if the tappings from the 2 scousers had not happened first. As he is going and MON wants him out he can talk about whoever he wants to. Big difference JohnDoe, yet again you don't look at the facts of the larger picture and just centre on a small piece to prove your small petty point. Think MON is just winding up Rafa by saying that Pat Rice is mates with them all and speak regularly etc whereas Rafa and his cronies have been ex-communicated by all the Villa staff bar-one.

No bid, no problem. If Arsenal had lodged an official enquiry we wouldn't have heard about it. Straws and still clutching come to mind.

JohnDoe's just worried that Barry will end up at a top4 club this season.

JohnDoe you still miss the point don't you ? If he is our player and Arsenal have shown an interest then we can declare it. Blackburn have done the same with our interest in Bentley. It comes down to the fact that he is our player and we aren't going to try and unsettle our own player but we are going to try and get the best value for him. That isn't against Premier League rules, unsettling players is but when you are a top 4 club you can do as you please. We all know that don't we ?

notthedougellisstand, you're the one who misses the point. Go back to O'Neill's quotes that I posted earlier. He said that transfer business should be done with a bit of privacy and a bit of confidentiality. Where was the privacy and confidentiality in making Arsenal's interest public? He only did it to put some pressure on Liverpool to complete the Barry transfer, so he's is conducting transfer business in public, and that proves that he's a hypocrite. By the way, Ince confirmed your interest in Bentley after news of your bid were leaked to the press, even your local press in Birmingham, how is that different from what happened with Barry?

No, what he said is that it should be conducted correctly. If Arsenal have made an enquiry then we can make this public as he is OUR player. That is the point. We are not doing anything wrong by discussing our player. If Barry was your player and we had made an enquiry then I would expect you to make it public because this will generate interest. Unless I'm mistaken the transfer system is a Capitalist market, therefore players will go to the highest bidder. Consequently we are going to attempt to generate more interest. Also, how do you know our bid for Bentley was leaked to the press ? Everyone of the nationals stated Bentley was going to Spurs yesterday and no mention of Villa having made a bid. Ince still could have chosen to keep quiet if he wanted but he was talking about HIS player so can say whatever he wishes and wants to create a bidding war between Villa and Spurs. He is well within his rights to do that. Finally, what has it got to do with you what MON says about Barry and Arsenal ? I didn't see him mention Liverpool in that quote so I think you should just keep out of our business.

Mind you if you sell Caragher and Benayoun and Carson maybe then you can afford Barry.

Still missing the point aren't you John? Why do you even care?

"He said that transfer business should be done with a bit of privacy and a bit of confidentiality." Yes but as both Liverpool and Barry himself have gone to the papers then MON is right to treat them accordingly. MON has no more time for GB and wants him shot of ASAP. Why should he wait around for Liverpool to pawn enough hubcaps to be able to afford him. GB said that he wants out so MON is trying to court potential buyers by letting it known that he is for sale.

John Doe really does have difficulty understanding the difference between talking about a player who is under contract to YOUR club and talking about a player that is under contract to ANOTHER club. Also John, although you seem scared to answer me - if Rafa did nothing wrong, then why was he quoted in the press and on SSN the day before our wigan game in May? What was he doing talking about wanting to sign our player to the press without our permission, before our season was over? If you honestly think its the same as confirming a bid for your own player in the close season then you are actually lacking in mental efficiency.

John - whatever about the agent but he weren't acting in our interests if he did that - that's for sure...You can't be serious that talking about bids for our own player is on a par with Rafa talking about our player....come on man that's just silly. Also it is SO CLEAR that Ince told the world about our bid as he hasn't come out saying "VILLA WERE RIGHT OUT OF ORDER FPR BEING PUBLIC WITHOUT BIDDING". I can't be bothered to waste my time emphasizing this anymore....your views...my views...tomatoes...tamaytas...let's call the whole thing off and he can go to Arsenal instead. Done!

Just what i was typing koolbill. you got there first.

we haven't said anything about a bidding war....FFS! Read. Comtemplate. Accept. Go home.

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I'm a tool!!!! Why do you think O'Neill confirmed Arsenal's interest? Just being honest? Just slipped out? He's trying to put pressure on Liverpool to finish the deal by declaring that other clubs are interested in him, same with Ince when he confirmed Villa's interest in Bentley. It's kindergarten stuff.

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Reality is, Liverpool now havve 15m to spend...question is will they spend it on Barry with another 2-3m on top or will we accept 15m plus Finnan? If they sell Alonso then they will try to buy Keane but seeing as big boots Man U are walking into Spuds for Berbatov then you casn expect them to say naff arf Scum...this meaning that they will still want Barry as they don't want Alonso...we should get him fit for Arsenal who have a better squad to cherry pick from in part ex. Either way, LFC are in trouble....how much would I love it if Torres has amonthn or so out through injury...Gerrard can't keep lifting them the sticky stuff!!!! Show me the money!

Walcott could be amazing if he was played every week under the right manager. He is as quick as Gabby but has an end product aswell and some tricks on the way rather than just powering around the defenders.

Scratch the BARRY SAGA - it's now the JOHN DOE SAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just one more time JohnDoe in the vein hope your going to get it!!! Barry is contracted to Villa. So therefor Villa can talk about him in the press, regardless of the subject of the offre/enquiry or from who. You on the other hand can not disgus Barry because he is not contract to you. That my friend is known as tapping up, and in the laws of the game is illegal. Not that it is ever enforced...

JohnDoe - just a thought, but have you ever tried logging onto this site...."http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/"? It's not as much fun as this site, but I think they have a nice colour by numbers section.

JohnDoe; Is talking to the press about a player contracted to another club not tapping up???? I'm affraid my friend you have missed the point yet again. You just will not understand that commenting on a player at another club without the consent of the players employer is in fact illegal in the laws of the game. If that comment is an attempt to unsettle. How can you not see that???? Villa have broken no laws or bylaws in my opinion because Barry is still contracted to us!!!

Gappy - give up - its like trying to explain irony to americans - JD just isn't clever enough to understand the holes in his arguments.

Well then maybe he is thinking he'll give bankrupt liverpool a taste of their own medicine. As I said many times before - who cares? Either you have the money and he becomes your player, or you don't and he goes to someone that can afford him. Which is it to be?

I like the way prits claims to know precisely what MON intended to communicate with his comments. Me I look at what was actually said, and that is that Liverpool leaked the bid before our season was over, and MON wasn't happy about that. Where did he say anything about ALL transfer dealings? He was P***ed off because it unsettled our team while we were still fighting for the UEFA cup place. And rightly so.

gappy65 said "Thay are just making themselves out to be even more stupid with every passing hour!!" Harsh, very difficult to do, but sadly true!

LOL @ JD

Did anyone else have strong suspicions from the start that Liverpool would **** this Barry thing up? Tarzan, ask your friend where the money for Liverpool's new stadium is, and watch him change the subject quick.

He freely admits they've got no cash. It's Keane or Barry. But Barry must be on the blower right now to Mr 10% deciding whther to forgo the loyalty cash and put in a transfer request.

A move to The Emirates would surely be a considerably better career move for Barry, than would a move to Anfield? Somehow though I find it difficult to believe that Wenger would be interested in him, at first glance Barry doesn't come across as an Arsenal type player. Given the opportunity though, I think that the very vast majority of folk would think Barry would choose north London.

We could even buy Torres for 3 shiney new pennies and a kt kat rapper LOL! I must admit this is quite entertaining watching the scousers squirm..

I don't think he will glensider, I feel he may be having a second thought or two. I doubt he envisaged the backlash from the fans. Or the fact LFC are skint. Who in there right mind would move to a new job when you know there strapped. He must be thinking S**T what have I done???

Villan-in-Cyprus, It's you who doesn't understand the transfer market. Talking about another club's player in the press isn't tapping up. You tapp up a player if you talk to HIM directly, not through the press, without informing his club in writing, even his club's permission isn't required. You can even talk to the players agent without it being tapping up. That's why Chelsea were found guilty of tapping up Ashley Cole, they didn't inform Arsenal in writing of their meeting, and Real Madrid, despite talking publicly about Ronaldo on numerous occasions, weren't guilty of tapping up according to FIFA. Read the third point of article 18 of the FIFA regulations on transfer of players. Is that clear or do I have to draw you a picture? http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

JD despite all the ins and outs. Do you want Barry? You've offered 15m over 3 years (which I would take). But I get the impression that most Scousers are totally indifferent to Gaz Baz. I hear Keane could be playing for youz by the weekend anyway. The only way this could get resolved is Barry gives up some of his transfer bonus (transfer request).

John, Rafa was acting like he'd already signed Barry, implying that he and O'neill had discussed a deal. O'neill said in the papers that he had a phone call from Rafa and said no to his offer. I believe MON over Rafa on this anyday, thats not saying MON hasn't got his hands dirty in this issue but I do believe Rafa was wrong in going public because we were still playing football, still playing for europe, 2 months before the transfer period, and considering Rafa had already asked MON about Barry apparently 2 or 3 weeks before it hit the papers, there was nothing to be gained from making it public other than unsettling our player. In MONs recent move, how is he wrong in hyping up a bidding war for a player that everyone knows is leaving? He's trying to get some offers comming for a player who wants out. Are you trying to tell me that Liverpool did nothing wrong and didn't unsettle our Captain at an important stage of the season? And are you saying that that is on par with simply putting Gareth Barry in the window after Liverpool have effectivly turned his club/fans against him and then failed to put up the cash for him? If Liverpool can't afford him and he wants to go, the only thing we can do is try to find a club that can afford him and these days the most effective method is playing games in the press such as this supposed inquiry from Arsenal.

Well said PTP - but you won't get an inch from JD - he really is blind to the failings of his clubs management. Expect some more "But your manager is just as bad" nonsense next time he logs on.

I suggest a new poll: Who is most irritatingly ridiculous in most things they say? A)United4life or B)JohnDoe It's a close one I think...

Cheers TUS, I bet there's a few Villa fans being equally Blind and stupid about the Liverpool pages though so we have to accept it.

Villan-in-Cyprus, The key word is concluding a contract. You can enter into negotiations with a player without concluding a contract. So we are allowed to speak to him after informing Villa in writing, we're not allowed to sign him without aggreeing a price with Villa. Do you understand the difference? and you say I can't read!!!! PTP, Rafa only went public after O'Neill slated him in the press. We didn't go public with the bid, he did.

You CAN NOT hold negoiations with a player without the consent of the players current club... THat would make a total mockery of the transfer system and contracts to players and clubs....

I think JD gets all this nonesense off the play station Suspect! Holy mother we're all in the S**t if the next generations use the playstation for moral guidance! Its time to think about emigration I think...

The idiot is you The Usual Suspect, you're just too stupid to know it. gappy, I posted FIFA's rules on player transfers, I suggest you read them before calling it nonsense.

The tranfer process works like this JD; First you make a bid, then the players club accept or decline, you then enter into negotation with the club to thrash out a fee for the player. Once the fee has been arranged you receive permission to speak to the player you then negotiate personal terms subject to a medical. THAT'S HOW IT WORK JD!!!!!

Interesting one there Gappy! It won't be the end however. Some people just don't get it, no matter how many times you go over it. As for JD, he tends to argue black is white and white is black anyway. Save your efforts!