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O'Neill On Barry Stalemate

Martin O'Neill has spoken on the official site and insisted only one thing is delaying Barry's desire for a move to Liverpool.

Liverpool simply will not meet the clubs valuation of the player, and no amount of whinging will change that.

O'Neill also admitted he was resigned to losing our 'former' captain after Barry informed the club he wished to leave after the meeting. O'Neill knew then, Barry's mind could not be changed.

'We're really disappointed that he's not going to be with us, he's made his mind up to go to Liverpool.

'You can talk and you can talk and talk but the bottom-line was that when he came back from the England game in Trinidad and Tobago he told me he wanted to leave.

'When somebody says they want to leave a football club there's not much else you can do about it. We'd had a meeting a few weeks before that, Randy, myself, Gareth and his agent and he said that Champions League football was what he wanted to do.

'So this idea that we have not done anything in our power to keep him, I'm afraid I totally and utterly disagree. Why on earth would we not want to keep our very top player at the football club when we're trying to improve?'

This is pretty much what we all knew and why Barry's endorsed wibble to the News of the World has been met with such derision. Davies, Mortimer and others can say it's unfortunate how things have turned out, and that we should look back fondly on Gareth Barry if they want.

Fact remains in a childish moment, he tried to apply pressure to aide his move instead of remaining professional. That was his choice, his doing and taking that action, Barry soiled his reputation not only amongst the Villa faithful, but as can be seen by comments of fans from other clubs in the wider footballing community.

That will recover over time, but the disrespect shown to our club and our fans will probably never die down.

And that is a shame for a player who gave us 10 yeas good service and had remained a model professional.

He knew he could leave when Liverpool matched our valuation - if only he hadn't authorised the NotW article Barry would, by many, be understood and loved.

O'Neill continued:

'Gareth has made his position clear and after that it's straightforward. We've put a valuation on him and Liverpool value him differently at the moment. That's what the stalemate is, it's nothing else.

'Gareth has pointed out he wants to go and if Liverpool come up and meet our valuation, he will go. That has been the case since the beginning of June when Gareth said he definitely wanted to go to Liverpool.

'We put a valuation on him and we have based this valuation on a number of straightforward issues - not least that he's actually a top quality player.'

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday July 3 2008

Time: 4:38PM

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A sad end to a great villa career!!
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03/07/2008 16:44:00

I hope Liverpool don't have the money. I'd rather keep him and make his life a misery. It would be money well spent:)
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03/07/2008 16:47:00

Us villians need to hammer Alan Brazil on talksport. He things MON is being silly. We don't.
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03/07/2008 16:48:00

he has been ill advised, its a shame really, been at the club such a long time and decides to do this
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03/07/2008 16:49:00

i applaud oneill for his handling of this transfer. clearly we are no longer going to be bullied around when it comes to transfers and the days of selling players on the cheap are long gone. barry, jog on mate and go and join your bin dipping mate gerrard.
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03/07/2008 16:59:00

The Barry saga, now in comic form!
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03/07/2008 17:05:00

Sooner he goes the better,but yea,good to see we won't be bullied
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03/07/2008 17:10:00

Good on MON, we had to make a point that we would not be bullied or else we would soon have lost Gabbi and Young, It is sad that Barry had burned his bridges with us, I feel that was Gerrard's idea and Barry just went along with it speaking to the press, and this has come to show a fight between the top 4 and everyone else as now Spurs are now taking note of MON's actions and are following suit with the 25mill price tag on Keane. Ths has also really made me hate Liverpool as I did respect them but if this is the way they act they dont deserve any respect, Villa for top 4 Liverpool to finally see that there is NO TOP 4 ONLY A TOP 3!!
Tallaght Villan
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03/07/2008 17:14:00

18 million for barry , that'll be a great bit of business by o'neill
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03/07/2008 17:17:00

you've got to feel sorry for him though, he's got to train on his own, his lost 2 weeks wages, no testimonial, there's no way O'Neil with give him a pay off as he's instigated the move, he's gone from hero to complete zero in most villa fans eyes AND at the end of the day he's gonna have to move to liverpool!!!!
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03/07/2008 18:03:00

its like he has got basil fawlty as his manager
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03/07/2008 18:29:00

Villa icon, Villa captain, first name on the team sheet, respected by fans and commentators alike - all of this given up in the space of a couple of weeks. Gareth - you'll be nothing more than a bit-player at Liverpool. What's more you'll be joining a disjointed club that next season will be lucky to scrape into the top 6. A truly sad end to a great Villa career.
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03/07/2008 18:47:00

such a silly boy
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03/07/2008 18:54:00

No deal is done until the papers are signed. Everyone should remember that we may need to use the asset that is GB next season before they slag him off. MON has, in the past, shown that he can forgive even Berger the 1st time (what a waste of space). GB has been disciplined for his outburst, and, if redscouse can't afford him, may need to be forgiven and repatriated to the mighty Villa fold like a naughty child.
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03/07/2008 19:10:00

Yes, MON did forgive Berger - what a pity Berger then went on to stab him in the back before the end of the season. What do you call a bus load of Premiership footballers going over a cliff with an empty seat? A terrible waste ...
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03/07/2008 21:03:00

If anyone sees GB at The Belfry be sure to tee all your balls up and let rip with your big one!
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03/07/2008 21:12:00

England play Czech republic on the 20th Aug. If GB does not start proper training in the next 2 weeks he will not be fit to make the England squad.... I'd have him cleaning the under 8's(eights) boots till Lpool put in 18
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03/07/2008 21:21:00

Barry is a true professional and has been loyal for all these years. At his age now he deserves a chance to play at the top level. Martin O'Neill? Well the guy is an embassment, he can't even talk properly, as usual he made a complete arse of himself again during Euro 2008. All the other pundits were cringing evrytime he opened his mouth to talk. Imagine what he'l like when he tries to talk to his players. His record as a manger is poor, all his teams in England finish half way down the table. The only cups he has one are the Mickey Mouse Cup Carling Cup that no one cares about. The likes of Oxford Utd, Norwich, Birmingham & Tottenham play in those finals. Don't even talk about his Scotland record where only 2 teams can win anything, even Gordon Strachan wins trophies there. O'Neill is an idiot, Villa won't win any major honour with him in charge.
Bergkamp was a Myth
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03/07/2008 21:58:00

Bergkamp was a Myth... Thank you very much! Now kindly pi$$ off back to the bham boards!
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03/07/2008 22:06:00

Birmingham????? They're worse than you!!!!!!!!!
Bergkamp was a Myth
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03/07/2008 22:11:00

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03/07/2008 22:27:00

Bergkamp - if MON can't talk properly, perhaps he'd better join you at an adult education class (if you are an adult?), because your command of English is abysmal. "His record as a manger is poor" - a manger is something you find in nativity plays, not the Premiership. "is an embassment" - what the hell is an embassment? "only cups he has one" - where did you go to school, you useless lump? Did you actually go go school?
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03/07/2008 22:47:00

MON was in a UEFA final with Celtic where he only lost to Mourinho's divers. Bergkamp was one of the best players to ever grace the prem and I would like to know any of your players with half the vision and execution for a pass??????? MON is known for having an excellent rapport with his players and they can obviously understand him. The only correct statement that you make is the first one about Barry's qualities but that has all changed with the newspaper foolishness.
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03/07/2008 22:49:00

liamo1981, wasn't sure what you would be getting at until I opened the link. Very funny. Didn't one of them ride an ass called Bergkamp was a Myth? (Bergkamp was a Myth - I meant ass as in donkey, but being a bluenose you'll be familiar with what they look like).
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04/07/2008 00:48:00

Have to say when all is said and done im going to miss Barry he was one of our best players.
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04/07/2008 08:44:00

I agree with AstonSteve on this one. I may also be going against the grain and think that we should give Barry a little slack. Difficult I know, as everything is a little raw at the moment. I know he is the club captain, best paid player, first name on the team sheet blah blah blah. However he has given us 11 years brilliant service and is going to make us a shed load of cash. I understand the arguments for staying at VP and the reasons for not going to a club who supporters rob and kill there own fans for the price of a match ticket. In the cold light of day though, in the short term (and a football career is short term) it is understandable why he has made the choice even if most of us disagree. If you are working as a builder on 500 a week and your pal says "come and join me on 1000 a week, we are just about to get a massive new job, and you may even get to work less and be able to sit on your arse most of the time", most people would jump at the chance. That is all that Gareth has done. The mistake he made was the comments to the paper. He was badly advised and came across as a spoilt brat. We should forgive this one error and remember 11 good years and 18 million. I still naively hope it all falls through, Murderpool fail to come up with the cash and Gareth apologises for his comments and signs an extended contract at VP.
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04/07/2008 10:16:00

And i agree with your comments voiceoftheholte spot on.
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04/07/2008 10:31:00

I agree too. I think we are a stronger team with Barry in the squad. As much as I've hated this sorry scenario if he were to change his mind, or if liverpool fail to stump up the cash then provided he apologised for his ill advised comments in the NOTW then I'd welcome back to the team. Not as captain though, think he's blown any right to deserve the armband. But then I've never been sure he's vocal enough to motivate a team as captain anway.
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04/07/2008 10:31:00

With regard to Bergkamp; I seem to remember reading somewhere (that's what you do when you want to learn something, as opposed to your inarticulate rate without basis) that MON has a degree in Law, I think he achieved this at the Belfast university when he stopped playing football.
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04/07/2008 13:11:00

voiceoftheholte, your hope may partly become true. Although I can only see the part about the deal falling through come true, not the bit about him apologising and signing a new deal. Personally, I think we'll perform better as a team without him in it - IF a suitable replacement is brought in. Not so convinced about your analogy either, he was offered 'double your money' at Villa. Can't imagine Liverpool offering him more than 90,000 a week. I don't believe Barry, *****er though he is, is the type of player to want to sit on his backside instead of playing.
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04/07/2008 16:42:00

And Bergkamp was a Myth, how's the special needs coming along?
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04/07/2008 16:45:00

We are handling this perfectly. All credit to MON and Mr Lerner.
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05/07/2008 12:47:00

We'll miss Barry, no two ways about it, but if his heart isn't in the club anymore, which it clearly isn't, then its best for all concerned that he moves on asap. ASAP being as soon as Benitez coughs up the asking price, and not a penny less.
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05/07/2008 12:49:00

I am so glad Villa are holding out for the right price.
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06/07/2008 21:33:00


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