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Villa Boss Doesn't Need Reminding What Is Required
Martin O'Neill says he knows what he wants and he wants what he knows, or something like that and has assured fans he is working on bringing in new players.
I don't know why but I can't stop singing Elvis Presley today... hmmm:
A little less conversation, a little more action please
All this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me
A little more bite and a little less bark
A little less fight and a little more spark
(that is tongue in cheek by the way, it is early days in this transfer window and I'm told the work is being put in to bring in the right players!)
I digress...but don't worry, it isn't painful and I can get a cream for it.
Meanwhile back on planet earth MON told the official site that he knows we need to make up numbers as we started off with a small squad and now with the departures of Mellberg, Moore, Berger and Soresen, we have an even smaller one. However he also says
'It doesn't mean that we have to be signing a player every week. We could sign seven in one day!'
Right, nail it down, which day, we'll all stay in and wait, that would be a great day!!!???
Adding, before so rudely interrupted, that we needed to add numbers anyway because of the new rule meaning there will be an extra two players on the bench making the match day squad 18.
'What you want to try and do is that the players who perform brilliantly for you, you want to strengthen the squad with a bit of quality to help them along. We have to definitely rebuild. I don't need reminding of that.'
He also says that looking back the team did great last season considering only 21 players were used.
'When you consider that Wayne Routledge is yet to make his full debut, Moustapha Salifou likewise. Neither started a game. Isaiah Osbourne played only a handful of games as did Stuart Taylor. Nine played 32 games or more which is incredible. That is something that I think has been overlooked in all of this, the big effort that those boys have put in.'
I reckon by the end of July we'll have 5-6 new players, what do you think?!
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Yeah Yeah whatever MON, you didnt do yourself any favours last summer, you made all these promises then and we ended up with a few squad players and only Carson and Reo-Coker from the summer signings made loads of first team appearances, you didnt do yourself any favours then mate, do yourself one now, keep it shut, and make us some signings. Cheers MON.
young_jonah
Yeah Yeah whatever MON, you didnt do yourself any favours last summer, you made all these promises then and we ended up with a few squad players and only Carson and Reo-Coker from the summer signings made loads of first team appearances, you didnt do yourself any favours then mate, do yourself one now, keep it shut, and make us some signings. Cheers MON.
young_jonah
To be fair we did really well last season, makes you wonder how much better we could have done though, doesnt it?
young_jonah
To be fair we did really well last season, makes you wonder how much better we could have done though, doesnt it?
young_jonah
No one has signed any or many yet - apart from Derby who seem to be buying up any thing that moves. Just as well really, they didn't move at all last season.
Gordonsleftboot
No one has signed any or many yet - apart from Derby who seem to be buying up any thing that moves. Just as well really, they didn't move at all last season.
Gordonsleftboot
I hate saying this but it just sounds like more flannel. Yes we did great but we were v.v.v. lucky with injuries. I would love to hear a positive statement from vp saying how we're going to compete with the best for the best. To have no rb was embarressing enough. At the moment we have'nt got a no1 gk. Thats outrageous. All thats coming out of vp is bland statements and that includes from barry. He could definately make more effort. He says he wants future sorted quick and in the same statement claims he will eventually want to talk to MON. He's out to make it look like a move was'nt his doing. It don't wash! Give us a clue MON whats your plans.
Mister Mick
I hate saying this but it just sounds like more flannel. Yes we did great but we were v.v.v. lucky with injuries. I would love to hear a positive statement from vp saying how we're going to compete with the best for the best. To have no rb was embarressing enough. At the moment we have'nt got a no1 gk. Thats outrageous. All thats coming out of vp is bland statements and that includes from barry. He could definately make more effort. He says he wants future sorted quick and in the same statement claims he will eventually want to talk to MON. He's out to make it look like a move was'nt his doing. It don't wash! Give us a clue MON whats your plans.
Mister Mick
That's all very well that no one is signing anyone yet, but not everyone has a squad the size of us! Infact, im not even sure you can call it a squad!? Its our starting 11! and saying the team picks itself would be a ******* understatement.
Villan-in-Cyprus
That's all very well that no one is signing anyone yet, but not everyone has a squad the size of us! Infact, im not even sure you can call it a squad!? Its our starting 11! and saying the team picks itself would be a ******* understatement.
Villan-in-Cyprus
The thing is people sit on forums talking over and over about it rather than just leaving it to o`neill and forgetting about it.Thats why you are frustrated.So i don`t think o`neill is the one who needs to keep it shut when you talk about it more than him young_jonah.
british84
The thing is people sit on forums talking over and over about it rather than just leaving it to o`neill and forgetting about it.Thats why you are frustrated.So i don`t think o`neill is the one who needs to keep it shut when you talk about it more than him young_jonah.
british84
I agree that MON shouldn't keep it shut - he should be communicating with the supporters. But this whole "be patient" line is wearing thin.
Villan-in-Cyprus
I agree that MON shouldn't keep it shut - he should be communicating with the supporters. But this whole "be patient" line is wearing thin.
Villan-in-Cyprus
Why do we have to sign players right now?Some people really need to get a grip.
british84
Why do we have to sign players right now?Some people really need to get a grip.
british84
Show some respect to the boss man. Spurs bought loads last year, Newcastle spent a fair penny. The guy aint gonna buy ***** and I would rather we had a squad of 14 and put out the youth team if necessary than end up with a bunch of greedy time wasters - the so called "squad players" that everyone keeps going on about. If MON decides to buy no-one this year so be it there's too many fantasy football managers out there. Look at all the *****s who moaned about not buying Defoe at Christmas - yeah he scored goals the team went downhill. It's a team game folks and it's about chemistry. Leave it to the boss.
AVMark
Show some respect to the boss man. Spurs bought loads last year, Newcastle spent a fair penny. The guy aint gonna buy ***** and I would rather we had a squad of 14 and put out the youth team if necessary than end up with a bunch of greedy time wasters - the so called "squad players" that everyone keeps going on about. If MON decides to buy no-one this year so be it there's too many fantasy football managers out there. Look at all the *****s who moaned about not buying Defoe at Christmas - yeah he scored goals the team went downhill. It's a team game folks and it's about chemistry. Leave it to the boss.
AVMark
Because if we don't, it'll be the same old story. By the time we get the cheque book out every quality player has already been sold or agreed terms with another club. ie Defoe. Lets face it, we probably have more work to do in the transfer window than any other top flight club. We don't even have a 1st choice GK for gods sake and our position is made all the more desperate as our captain is waiting to see our intention in the transfer window. Now is the time.
Villan-in-Cyprus
Because if we don't, it'll be the same old story. By the time we get the cheque book out every quality player has already been sold or agreed terms with another club. ie Defoe. Lets face it, we probably have more work to do in the transfer window than any other top flight club. We don't even have a 1st choice GK for gods sake and our position is made all the more desperate as our captain is waiting to see our intention in the transfer window. Now is the time.
Villan-in-Cyprus
If MON had a great track record in transfer windows nobody would be getting agitated right now. The fact is though last summer was shambolic and we all remember that all too clearly. Personally I'm just going to go and lie down in a dark room and come out on the the first day of next season.
jonah
If MON had a great track record in transfer windows nobody would be getting agitated right now. The fact is though last summer was shambolic and we all remember that all too clearly. Personally I'm just going to go and lie down in a dark room and come out on the the first day of next season.
jonah
Does anyone else fancy Ronaldinho? An attacking midfielder like the toothy one is something we have been missing for years. Sure he will be expensive but he is only 28 and would bring in loads of cash through shirt sales alone. If City are linked surely we could be considered also...
Tez86
Does anyone else fancy Ronaldinho? An attacking midfielder like the toothy one is something we have been missing for years. Sure he will be expensive but he is only 28 and would bring in loads of cash through shirt sales alone. If City are linked surely we could be considered also...
Tez86
Us signing Ronaldinho would certainly persuade Barry to stay. But could we attract him and could we afford his wages? Or should I say WOULD we pay his wages.
Villan-in-Cyprus
Us signing Ronaldinho would certainly persuade Barry to stay. But could we attract him and could we afford his wages? Or should I say WOULD we pay his wages.
Villan-in-Cyprus
I think we definately could we surely have as much money as city. After all if we were worried abut finances we wuldnt be giving away free sponsership to acorns. As for would...well thats a different matter entierly, I think probably not but if we want to push on to the next level Henry and Ronaldinho would help get us there. The top four think nothing of blowing 30 million per player. I think I am dreaming but it would be nice to see!
Tez86
I think we definately could we surely have as much money as city. After all if we were worried abut finances we wuldnt be giving away free sponsership to acorns. As for would...well thats a different matter entierly, I think probably not but if we want to push on to the next level Henry and Ronaldinho would help get us there. The top four think nothing of blowing 30 million per player. I think I am dreaming but it would be nice to see!
Tez86
MON isn't the sort of manager to make a flash signing for the sake of it, the thing is, would hughes want ronaldinho? this has been talked about since sven was at city, theres a different man in charge now. regarding MOn and the Beeb, the way it normally works is that he'd give lerner a list of players and randy will do the negotiations. remember, MON is a footie manager, not a salesman.
bobbyfett
MON isn't the sort of manager to make a flash signing for the sake of it, the thing is, would hughes want ronaldinho? this has been talked about since sven was at city, theres a different man in charge now. regarding MOn and the Beeb, the way it normally works is that he'd give lerner a list of players and randy will do the negotiations. remember, MON is a footie manager, not a salesman.
bobbyfett
Yeah the wages may be the stumbling block. I reckon Henry is slightly more realistic than Ronaldinho, but still a long shot. I don't think players like that take you seriously until you're in the CL. Maybe we could persuade Zidane out of retirement whilst we're at it;)
Villan-in-Cyprus
Yeah the wages may be the stumbling block. I reckon Henry is slightly more realistic than Ronaldinho, but still a long shot. I don't think players like that take you seriously until you're in the CL. Maybe we could persuade Zidane out of retirement whilst we're at it;)
Villan-in-Cyprus
Maybe we are dreaming with talk of Ronaldinho or Henry but why not?? Of all the clubs in the Premiership (and even possibly Europe) we could be one of the biggest clubs not in debt. Surely if any team is to smash their transfer and wage budget to kick-on for 4th place it would be us. If we did spend the money I believe we have we certainly could even push Arsenal out as well to become top 3. Chelsea did it quickly and we were a bigger club than them before Roman and his £ came along. We are on the cusp of something really good here. The key thing is whether Ronaldinho and co are the players to go for or whether we go for players around the £5-10million mark and see how they go - Dunne, Sidwell, Huddlestone, Chimbonda etc. etc. In my opinion that may have to be the way we go for the next few years. Only when Champions League money comes through will we take that next BIG step. I cant remember the figures but Spurs and Evertons UEFA cup runs did not bring much money in at all compared to the Champions League revenue - we cant take the big money risks this year.
deano.avfc
Maybe we are dreaming with talk of Ronaldinho or Henry but why not?? Of all the clubs in the Premiership (and even possibly Europe) we could be one of the biggest clubs not in debt. Surely if any team is to smash their transfer and wage budget to kick-on for 4th place it would be us. If we did spend the money I believe we have we certainly could even push Arsenal out as well to become top 3. Chelsea did it quickly and we were a bigger club than them before Roman and his £ came along. We are on the cusp of something really good here. The key thing is whether Ronaldinho and co are the players to go for or whether we go for players around the £5-10million mark and see how they go - Dunne, Sidwell, Huddlestone, Chimbonda etc. etc. In my opinion that may have to be the way we go for the next few years. Only when Champions League money comes through will we take that next BIG step. I cant remember the figures but Spurs and Evertons UEFA cup runs did not bring much money in at all compared to the Champions League revenue - we cant take the big money risks this year.
deano.avfc
On a similar note - I know Curtis Davies will be transferred for £10m and that will outdo the £9.5m Young (possibly - depending on add-ons) and Angel transfers. But do you think O'Neill will buy anyone this window at £10m+????
deano.avfc
On a similar note - I know Curtis Davies will be transferred for £10m and that will outdo the £9.5m Young (possibly - depending on add-ons) and Angel transfers. But do you think O'Neill will buy anyone this window at £10m+????
deano.avfc
The thing is, the way transfer fees have gone through the roof, £10Million doesn't get you that much nowadays does it? Unless you're Liverpool of course, then you can get a top class midfielder and future England captain.
Villan-in-Cyprus
The thing is, the way transfer fees have gone through the roof, £10Million doesn't get you that much nowadays does it? Unless you're Liverpool of course, then you can get a top class midfielder and future England captain.
Villan-in-Cyprus
British84, its all speculation on this site, if it bothers people then maybe they shouldnt use a FORUM!! Look it up in the dictionary, at the end of the day MON has come out and said all this before, last summer, take a look at the archives below, he then brought in Reo-Coker (good signing) and Carson (who was a decent signing but let MON down), all his other signings were not top 8, which was our aim. We got lucky, MON is a great motivator, a great man-manager but he isnt and hasnt done too well in the market, Young being the star signing, and then maybe 2 or 3 of the 10 or so, could be considered top signings. I understand people wanting to give him the summer before jumping down his throat, but please give those of us who remember the crap MON came out with last summer a little respect. I will believe it when i see it, i wish MON would spend more time ensuring the signings are made than making these types of comments, I hope he can get the signings in, I have no doubt he will do wonders with his team next year, i just hope there is some top6 quality within it!!
young_jonah
British84, its all speculation on this site, if it bothers people then maybe they shouldnt use a FORUM!! Look it up in the dictionary, at the end of the day MON has come out and said all this before, last summer, take a look at the archives below, he then brought in Reo-Coker (good signing) and Carson (who was a decent signing but let MON down), all his other signings were not top 8, which was our aim. We got lucky, MON is a great motivator, a great man-manager but he isnt and hasnt done too well in the market, Young being the star signing, and then maybe 2 or 3 of the 10 or so, could be considered top signings. I understand people wanting to give him the summer before jumping down his throat, but please give those of us who remember the crap MON came out with last summer a little respect. I will believe it when i see it, i wish MON would spend more time ensuring the signings are made than making these types of comments, I hope he can get the signings in, I have no doubt he will do wonders with his team next year, i just hope there is some top6 quality within it!!
young_jonah
thing is young_jonah, last years transfer window saw us come from an 11th place finish after years of inconsistency, we seem to be leaving that aspect behind now, so players will have a different view of us. last year a player may have thought 'big club, but what will it yield?', this time round players will look at us thinking 'villa are on to something here'. remember, other than chelsea's 1 signing (done under grant) only liverpool have spent. utd are in the same boat as us, there best player being speculated about and arsenal too, who seem to be losing players as we are. i get *****ed off with the negativity on here, were all a bunch of moaning so and so's, after a great season were at MON's neck. show him some respect, things are much different from last year. UTV!!!
bobbyfett
thing is young_jonah, last years transfer window saw us come from an 11th place finish after years of inconsistency, we seem to be leaving that aspect behind now, so players will have a different view of us. last year a player may have thought 'big club, but what will it yield?', this time round players will look at us thinking 'villa are on to something here'. remember, other than chelsea's 1 signing (done under grant) only liverpool have spent. utd are in the same boat as us, there best player being speculated about and arsenal too, who seem to be losing players as we are. i get *****ed off with the negativity on here, were all a bunch of moaning so and so's, after a great season were at MON's neck. show him some respect, things are much different from last year. UTV!!!
bobbyfett
Hi Bobbyfett, you just need to take a look at some of my comments in the forum and on other articles to see i am supportive of so much the club has done, no-one can take away what was achieved last season, it was a major achievement with the squad etc, but that is not my point, my point is the fact that MON is making all this media friendly comments, again. He did it last year, why cant he just make the moves, if he didnt say this and then we only signed 3 players, no one could argue he made promises, the thing is he made these type of comments last summer, and DID not deliver in the market. I take your point that signing top players will be more attracted to us this summer, but the thing no matter what you or British84 say, actions speak louder than words.
young_jonah
Hi Bobbyfett, you just need to take a look at some of my comments in the forum and on other articles to see i am supportive of so much the club has done, no-one can take away what was achieved last season, it was a major achievement with the squad etc, but that is not my point, my point is the fact that MON is making all this media friendly comments, again. He did it last year, why cant he just make the moves, if he didnt say this and then we only signed 3 players, no one could argue he made promises, the thing is he made these type of comments last summer, and DID not deliver in the market. I take your point that signing top players will be more attracted to us this summer, but the thing no matter what you or British84 say, actions speak louder than words.
young_jonah
i know you do jonah, this site keeps me sane in a boring job, so i get annoyed when it lets me down! i wasn't just pointing a finger at you, i understand your frustration because i'm feeling it aswell as the rest of us. i genuinely think we will see action in the next few weeks, every team in the country is at a point where they are taking stock, they know what they have, what they dont need and then, in the middle, those who they may, or may not need. at the end of the day, no-one has left the villa who we didnt expect to go at the end of the season, we knew about olof, we dont want patrick 'the walking gob' berger and tommy has wanted out since the 1st liverpool game of last year when it was made clear he was no.3. MON knows who he wants, its just whether the team we want him off want to keep him or not!
bobbyfett
i know you do jonah, this site keeps me sane in a boring job, so i get annoyed when it lets me down! i wasn't just pointing a finger at you, i understand your frustration because i'm feeling it aswell as the rest of us. i genuinely think we will see action in the next few weeks, every team in the country is at a point where they are taking stock, they know what they have, what they dont need and then, in the middle, those who they may, or may not need. at the end of the day, no-one has left the villa who we didnt expect to go at the end of the season, we knew about olof, we dont want patrick 'the walking gob' berger and tommy has wanted out since the 1st liverpool game of last year when it was made clear he was no.3. MON knows who he wants, its just whether the team we want him off want to keep him or not!
bobbyfett
i've put this on the transfer thread too, but Guzan played for the states last night. as to whether this gets him his permit, i'm unsure of. but lets hope so!!
bobbyfett
MON isn't stupid, and neither are the board they all know what to do. The only problem is, he wants team players and he doesn't want to waste millions. Henry sounds nice but he is not MON material and never will be. MON likes to get a team of hard working people together and make them play together, he does not want a team of selfish players, i'm not implying Henry is a selfish player either. I know what Im trying to say but I can't get my thoughts written down!!
industrial_musical
i've put this on the transfer thread too, but Guzan played for the states last night. as to whether this gets him his permit, i'm unsure of. but lets hope so!!
bobbyfett
MON isn't stupid, and neither are the board they all know what to do. The only problem is, he wants team players and he doesn't want to waste millions. Henry sounds nice but he is not MON material and never will be. MON likes to get a team of hard working people together and make them play together, he does not want a team of selfish players, i'm not implying Henry is a selfish player either. I know what Im trying to say but I can't get my thoughts written down!!
industrial_musical
i think what you mean industrial_ is that he wants a team playing for each other instead of a team working round the abilities of one player?
bobbyfett
i think what you mean industrial_ is that he wants a team playing for each other instead of a team working round the abilities of one player?
bobbyfett
A top man manager, something MON is isn't he, could handle top players. Just because he's not bought stars before doesn't mean he can't or never will. Henry works very hard for the team, can't see how he'd do anything but add for example.
The Fear
A top man manager, something MON is isn't he, could handle top players. Just because he's not bought stars before doesn't mean he can't or never will. Henry works very hard for the team, can't see how he'd do anything but add for example.
The Fear
Surely after a fustrating season Henry would work very hard to show his worth again no matter where he is. Again this is me dreaming but going for players like this would draw more players t the club. Henry and Ronaldinho are not getting enugh games at the minute although we cant offer CL football we can offer 1st team football and adoring fans. I feel that if we dont attempt to sign players like this then, like this season, we could have a few seasons where we do very well then the bigger boys come in for our better players at the end leaving us to find the next (cheap) rising stars.
Tez86
Surely after a fustrating season Henry would work very hard to show his worth again no matter where he is. Again this is me dreaming but going for players like this would draw more players t the club. Henry and Ronaldinho are not getting enugh games at the minute although we cant offer CL football we can offer 1st team football and adoring fans. I feel that if we dont attempt to sign players like this then, like this season, we could have a few seasons where we do very well then the bigger boys come in for our better players at the end leaving us to find the next (cheap) rising stars.
Tez86
I dont think that theres any point in saying that we need the bulk of our new arrivals in house before pre-season gets underway, cause we all know that aint gonna happen. MON will do things at his own pace, in his own time, and if that means completing deals on the final day of the window, then thats how it will have to be.
glensider
I dont think that theres any point in saying that we need the bulk of our new arrivals in house before pre-season gets underway, cause we all know that aint gonna happen. MON will do things at his own pace, in his own time, and if that means completing deals on the final day of the window, then thats how it will have to be.
glensider
any movement on taking Sidwell and SWP off our hands?
merlin
any movement on taking Sidwell and SWP off our hands?
merlin
The best two teams outside the top 4 from last season have spent a lot less than a lot of teams and are doing well because of it...buying players doesn't make a good team. I don't see it as a case of last seasons transfer window being a failure...we went from 11th to 6th, so therefore how can you consider the transfer window a failure?? It's not all about big names and millions, MON isn't stupid and he will bring in the right players for what he wants to do. I'd rather that than do a Man City, Spurs or Newcastle and waste millions on players who don't deliver.
Villa4Europe
The best two teams outside the top 4 from last season have spent a lot less than a lot of teams and are doing well because of it...buying players doesn't make a good team. I don't see it as a case of last seasons transfer window being a failure...we went from 11th to 6th, so therefore how can you consider the transfer window a failure?? It's not all about big names and millions, MON isn't stupid and he will bring in the right players for what he wants to do. I'd rather that than do a Man City, Spurs or Newcastle and waste millions on players who don't deliver.
Villa4Europe
Sidwell or SWP..who knows! I guess when the new manager comes in things will sort themselves out.
Villa4Europe
Sidwell or SWP..who knows! I guess when the new manager comes in things will sort themselves out.
Villa4Europe
villa4europe said exactly the point i was trying to get across!! :)
industrial_musical
villa4europe said exactly the point i was trying to get across!! :)
industrial_musical
merlin we will have both..
col8
merlin we will have both..
col8
The Transfer Window WAS a failure, the league season wasnt, two different things. Villa4Europe, are you trying to imply that it was MONs intention to not have a right back and only 3 strikers? Cause I think he cocked it up, and then with some luck in not getting too many injuries, we overachieved with the squad we had.
young_jonah
The Transfer Window WAS a failure, the league season wasnt, two different things. Villa4Europe, are you trying to imply that it was MONs intention to not have a right back and only 3 strikers? Cause I think he cocked it up, and then with some luck in not getting too many injuries, we overachieved with the squad we had.
young_jonah
or young jonah, it showed what a good manager MON is and how he managed to get an incomplete team into Europe. Big money players and signings do not equal success. A well drilled TEAM filled with players who give their all for the cause equals success and this is what MON wants.
industrial_musical
or young jonah, it showed what a good manager MON is and how he managed to get an incomplete team into Europe. Big money players and signings do not equal success. A well drilled TEAM filled with players who give their all for the cause equals success and this is what MON wants.
industrial_musical
Dull! Get spending some bloody money. I see the PR machine is working well at Villa Park as Stan Collymore (he that knows all things Villa apparently) tells is that there is hope for the future with the youth set-up?
This is the same pap Doug used to come out with and the quality side of that era gave us a few players, unfortunately we have 1 of them left 'Gabby' the rest were blooded and never made the grade. Compare all of those players to one Wayne Rooney who we saw on the loosing side against that youth team in a final.
Stefan Moore (gone)
Luke Moore (gone)
Steven Davis (gone)
Gary Cahill (gone)
Agent Ridgewell (gone)
Stephen Folley (gone)
Stephen Cooke (gone)
Let's hope this isn't the strategy again. Be great to get some home grown talent in the squad but let's not make it so important that if they don't perform it A) costs the team and B) Wrecks their career.
spit-fire
Dull! Get spending some bloody money. I see the PR machine is working well at Villa Park as Stan Collymore (he that knows all things Villa apparently) tells is that there is hope for the future with the youth set-up?
This is the same pap Doug used to come out with and the quality side of that era gave us a few players, unfortunately we have 1 of them left 'Gabby' the rest were blooded and never made the grade. Compare all of those players to one Wayne Rooney who we saw on the loosing side against that youth team in a final.
Stefan Moore (gone)
Luke Moore (gone)
Steven Davis (gone)
Gary Cahill (gone)
Agent Ridgewell (gone)
Stephen Folley (gone)
Stephen Cooke (gone)
Let's hope this isn't the strategy again. Be great to get some home grown talent in the squad but let's not make it so important that if they don't perform it A) costs the team and B) Wrecks their career.
spit-fire
No doubt MON did well, but it wont work forever. Tell you what lets not strengthen and see how well we get on next season.
young_jonah
No doubt MON did well, but it wont work forever. Tell you what lets not strengthen and see how well we get on next season.
young_jonah
We were incredibly lucky last season to avoid injuries, I genuinely thought our season was going to tail off after the lack of activity in the January window, I was very suprised that the likes of laursen, young and barry had enough to keep going and avoid a crock. I agree a solid team is what we aim for but would it hurt to have one or two big names in there like the top four do? Lets be honest the likes of wes brown, darren fletcher, pennant, crouch etc are not the biggest stars in the world but they provide the support to the likes of rooney and ronaldo. I just think everton have been buying shrewdly for years and are still some way off yet. I will also put money on that when we finish well again next season we will have a summer when Ashley Young will be targeted by some CL club.
Tez86
We were incredibly lucky last season to avoid injuries, I genuinely thought our season was going to tail off after the lack of activity in the January window, I was very suprised that the likes of laursen, young and barry had enough to keep going and avoid a crock. I agree a solid team is what we aim for but would it hurt to have one or two big names in there like the top four do? Lets be honest the likes of wes brown, darren fletcher, pennant, crouch etc are not the biggest stars in the world but they provide the support to the likes of rooney and ronaldo. I just think everton have been buying shrewdly for years and are still some way off yet. I will also put money on that when we finish well again next season we will have a summer when Ashley Young will be targeted by some CL club.
Tez86
Young_jonah i'm not denying we need to sign players, we will sign players. it's just that the impatience of fans is growing tiresome and that we will most likely sign the bulk of new players in July and August. Agreed Tez, next summer will be a saga involving Ashley Young, I can see it now.
industrial_musical
Young_jonah i'm not denying we need to sign players, we will sign players. it's just that the impatience of fans is growing tiresome and that we will most likely sign the bulk of new players in July and August. Agreed Tez, next summer will be a saga involving Ashley Young, I can see it now.
industrial_musical
I have read that we have literally "caved in" and will let barry go for 14m, I think we were all hoping for more than that.....
Tez86
I have read that we have literally "caved in" and will let barry go for 14m, I think we were all hoping for more than that.....
Tez86
yawwwn ! expect 3 coming in then....
crosswesleyanchapel
yawwwn ! expect 3 coming in then....
crosswesleyanchapel
Haha, do you honestly think you know better than MON young_jonah? Seriously, if you do maybe you should do his job! I agree with you in that not having a right back was not ideal, all the same he know Mellberg could play there and even Gardner as desperate cover... but only having three strikers is not the worst thing depending on the tactical system he wanted to play. He knew full that Carew or Harewood could play as a lone striker with Agbonlahor or Maloney playing alongside Young on the wings. So what if Young got injured? Well any club getting a key player injured will be a big problem, be it Man Utd or AV.
Perhaps all those players you mentioned spit-fire were simply not good enough! Stephen Cooke is hardly proving himself and Luke Moore did not make an impact....O'Neill is seeing these players on a daily basis and has far more experience than you do, simple fact.
If you want O'Neill to spent millions on players who might not do anything useful feel free to voice that, but personally I think the progression under O'Neill and Lerner has been brilliant (to the point where many fans in the country are talking about how Villa are an exciting and upcoming team), so if you want to cry and moan because they aren't bringing in your football manager players, go for it, glad I won't be sitting next to you int he Holte next season.
Villa4Europe
Haha, do you honestly think you know better than MON young_jonah? Seriously, if you do maybe you should do his job! I agree with you in that not having a right back was not ideal, all the same he know Mellberg could play there and even Gardner as desperate cover... but only having three strikers is not the worst thing depending on the tactical system he wanted to play. He knew full that Carew or Harewood could play as a lone striker with Agbonlahor or Maloney playing alongside Young on the wings. So what if Young got injured? Well any club getting a key player injured will be a big problem, be it Man Utd or AV.
Perhaps all those players you mentioned spit-fire were simply not good enough! Stephen Cooke is hardly proving himself and Luke Moore did not make an impact....O'Neill is seeing these players on a daily basis and has far more experience than you do, simple fact.
If you want O'Neill to spent millions on players who might not do anything useful feel free to voice that, but personally I think the progression under O'Neill and Lerner has been brilliant (to the point where many fans in the country are talking about how Villa are an exciting and upcoming team), so if you want to cry and moan because they aren't bringing in your football manager players, go for it, glad I won't be sitting next to you int he Holte next season.
Villa4Europe
Sorry spit-fire I slightly misread your post! Even when the youth cup final was on, I remember watching it and all that everyone was really talking about was this young evertonian by the name of Rooney...all those players at Villa didn't make the grade but thats just the way it goes with the large percentage of youth football...MON is smart enough not to rely totally on a group of players who may or may not be good enough. He will bring in players over the summer which fit what he wants the team to do...just a case of being patient, and for once, giving the manager/people in charge of our club a break. All I've ever heard from a lot of our fans is 1) optomism when a new manager comes in, and 2) distress when he doesn't get Europe in his 1st season. Ferguson took time at Utd, and we aren't buying our way in like Chelsea...also not every club can bring in someone like Wenger with a foreign knowledge and ridiculous eye/knowledge for talent, and we don't have the european name and image of Liverpool...so give it time and give respect where its due is what I say.
Villa4Europe
Sorry spit-fire I slightly misread your post! Even when the youth cup final was on, I remember watching it and all that everyone was really talking about was this young evertonian by the name of Rooney...all those players at Villa didn't make the grade but thats just the way it goes with the large percentage of youth football...MON is smart enough not to rely totally on a group of players who may or may not be good enough. He will bring in players over the summer which fit what he wants the team to do...just a case of being patient, and for once, giving the manager/people in charge of our club a break. All I've ever heard from a lot of our fans is 1) optomism when a new manager comes in, and 2) distress when he doesn't get Europe in his 1st season. Ferguson took time at Utd, and we aren't buying our way in like Chelsea...also not every club can bring in someone like Wenger with a foreign knowledge and ridiculous eye/knowledge for talent, and we don't have the european name and image of Liverpool...so give it time and give respect where its due is what I say.
Villa4Europe
I think people are impatient because we have had 25 years of no ambition. Here's a thought on squad size - were would Liverpool have finished if Torres had suffered a serious injury or lack of form? In reality the difference between success and failure is minute. Having said that he did cost 26 mill and I sugest that we'll need to spend more than that on our squad to improve on last year.
myleftfoot
I think people are impatient because we have had 25 years of no ambition. Here's a thought on squad size - were would Liverpool have finished if Torres had suffered a serious injury or lack of form? In reality the difference between success and failure is minute. Having said that he did cost 26 mill and I sugest that we'll need to spend more than that on our squad to improve on last year.
myleftfoot
what is required is we do not let Barry go for 14million to liverpoodle, it will send very wierd messages to all.
leftfoot
what is required is we do not let Barry go for 14million to liverpoodle, it will send very wierd messages to all.
leftfoot
merlin, send 'em both our way if you would. We'll face pretty stiff competition for both signatures though.
glensider
merlin, send 'em both our way if you would. We'll face pretty stiff competition for both signatures though.
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