Martin O'Neill Vs Rafa Benitez (Tale Of The Tape)
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Martin O'Neill Vs Rafa Benitez (Tale Of The Tape)

I have been really disappointed in the last few weeks with how Rafa Benitez has conducted himself during the so-called Gareth Barry saga.

Rafa has come out with some really unprofessional things since it became apparent that he would be making a move for our captain Barry. I have grown up like so many with the utmost respect for Liverpool, unlike Manchester United they were perhaps the likeable successful team, they have achieved so much in their time and are one of the world`s finest clubs. However I have watched the developments at the club over the past season, there is in-fighting at board level, their manager seems to have lost the plot, making stupid decisions on and off the field and I reckon it is only a matter of time before Liverpool are going to be in serious turmoil.

Benitez has single handily made the whole of the football world, including many Aston Villa fans believe that Gareth Barry would actually consider joining his club. Villa finished just 16 points behind Liverpool in the league as the reds managed to surprisingly finish fourth again, a real shock to all the neutrals, not!! Had it not been for some poor performances from Scott Carson (who we loaned from Liverpool coincidently), who it would appear is incapable of keeping a clean sheet, who knows were we may have finished in relation to Liverpool. Aston Villa have made huge strides under the leadership of both Randy Lerner and Martin O`Neill, and although many would disagree on here, I believe with the right signings, Villa could realistically push Liverpool for 4th place next season, cause I mean lets face it, that will undoubtedly be the position that Liverpool will be after just like every other season, yawn!!

With all that has gone on this week, Rafa has come out today and said that Peter Crouch is worth £15million and Scott Carson is worth £10million, he is obviously not aware that both of these individuals have played at Villa Park and that all us Villa fans are aware of how much these two are worth, £10million between them, if that, certainly nowhere near the £25million mark. He then refuses to pay £16million for Gareth Barry? Barry is twice the player Crouch is, and maybe as much as five times better than Carson is, probably a better keeper in fact!!

I urge Martin O`Neill and the club to avoid doing any business with Rafa Benitez, be that Carson, Crouch, John Arne Riise or Barry. If Barry hands in the transfer request we should refuse him a move to Liverpool just for how unprofessional Benitez has been.

We say Proud History, Bright Future at Villa Park. I believe that, but I reckon there are a few Liverpool fans disillusioned at life under the Hicks/Gillette regime and must be wondering how long Rafa will remain in the job. As this story rolls on, the more and more convinced I become that Barry will remain at Villa Park, I believe he is a professional lad with a huge amount of intelligence and that he must be able to recognise that Villa are about to overtake Liverpool who will inevitably be battling for 4th next season, as usual.

The difference next season is, so will we!!

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Writer:Dan Jones
Date:Friday May 23 2008
Time: 1:53PM


We do poorly in the league by our own standards, I agree, but there are 16 clubs in the premier league who love to be in our position, including Villa. Never said that we're Real Madrid, I did say that we play better than Villa, and if you think we're dull as fck to watch, where that leaves your club? A club that is a latter day Wimbledon. That relies on long balls and set plays to score goals. A club that even Bolton, who are renowned for their long ball play, completed more passes than. People with glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
26/05/2008 19:45:00
Maybe you should marry Mascherano. Go on, just ask him. By focusing on him you ignore the question why do Liverpool do poorly in the league but well in Europe? Why? Because of your negative style. Are Liverpool in turmoil? that's what this article is about, no? not you wanting to honeymoon in buenos aires with javier. I'm not saying Villa are great, just that we are slowly progressing. The comment about championship playoffs finals was a mistake, (like i said they are actually exciting) what I was trying to say is that Liverpool are dull as fck to watch, Mascherano was an example, yes he is a good player, in the same way cliff thorburn was good at snooker. Liverpool have plenty of good players, just look at the total league points if you want to show you are better than us right now. But I predict this, Liverpool wont win the league under Benitez. I agree with the article. You can go on insisting you are Real Madrid if you want.
sick note
26/05/2008 18:44:00
sick note, you said that Mascherano is worthy of a championship playoff final. Now you say that you never said he wasn't a good player!!!!!! All the players I mentioned are just as or even more negative than Mascherano, including Nigel Reo-Coker. As with our boring football, I think the stats show that we're a much better passing team than Villa, and create more goal mouth action, yet you claim that we are boring and Villa isn't, just because you scored four more goals in the league. You need to ditch your attitude mate, and remove your blinkers. We're a better team than you give us credit for, and our play is better than all the other premier league clubs bar Arsenal and Manu. You talk about my arrogance, I still stand by my earlier statement, if you don't see how good a player Mascherano is then you don't know anything about football. He's one of the top defensive midfielders in the world. He was part of the Argentina team that was the best going forward in the last world cup. He gave the other midfielders freedom to go forward, as he does with Liverpool. Most teams now have a defensive midfielder like him, as I showed in my earlier post. It's not a negative tactic, as Argentina showed, it give the attacking midfielders the freedom to go forward and attack without worrying about defensive responsibilities, and he's one of the best in that role. He's the second best tackler in the league, behind Reo-Coker, while starting 11 games less. He also contributes on the offensive end, he scored a goal and assisted on another. Also he's a good passer of the ball, wither it's long or short, and he's a good dribbler. He's still 23 years old and can get even better. He's worth what we paid for him, that's my opinion. Villan444, Sorry, my mistake.
26/05/2008 12:53:00
I said "OTHER" than Makelele.
26/05/2008 11:53:00
I'l say it again - the only way you can compare it to look at like for like (the league) right? RIGHT? This is what the article was about, not about scoring 8 of your CL goals in a game investigated for match fixing. Your arrogant attitude really reminds me of most Man Utd fans, anyone who disagrees just doesnt know footy. This is my OPINION Liverpool are boring, stop surfing through sky sports archives like a sad man trying to prove otherwise, it is my OPINION. None of the midfielders you mentioned with the exception of Makalele are as negative (and I said before Chelsea are the team most similar to you, spending money to play negative footy (it works for them simply because they have so much cash). If you look back I never said Mascherano wasn't a good player, I said the style of football he and other Benitez signings bring to Liverpool is worthy of the Championship, which I now retract as in fairness the Championship is quite exciting. Why do Liverpool progress in Europe but do poorly in the League? Because, they are unable to score the number of goals necessary to claim all 3 points on a regular basis, which is why IN MY OPINION they will continue to struggle, no? Which is what this article was about, no? If they stick with this style IN MY OPINION Liverpool will continue to decline and are clearly the team the rest of us are aiming at. Ditch your arrogant MAN UTD attidude and give it some thought and maybe just maybe you will see there is some truth in what I am saying. UTV!
sick note
26/05/2008 05:35:00
By the way, if you look at the following link you'll find that Liverpool attempted the second most shots in the league behind Manu, and were the fourth best passing team. While Villa on the other hand attempted the eighth most shots and were a dismal 17th best passing team, just ahead of Derby. Even Bolton completed more passes than Villa, which tells us that you're a long ball team, a team that relies on set plays to score most of it's goals. It's been very effective for you, but it's not pretty to watch. And you think that we're boring!!!!,19528,11662_2705370,00.html
26/05/2008 00:45:00
Villan444, I didn't count friendlies. We were the top scoring club in the CL, scoring nine goals more than Manu and Chelsea, we also outscored Manu in the FA Cup and the League Cup. Makalele doesn't go forward, he only scored one goal for Chelsea in the five years he played there. His job is to protect the defence, get the ball, and short pass it to another midfielder like Lampard or Ballack. How can you say that he's good going forward is beyond me.
26/05/2008 00:24:00
Manu're outscored you in the league by 13 ( I don't think anyone else other than you is counting friendlies.) They played for 1-0 wins in Europe and in the league at the start of the season. Chelsea just do that anyway. Mascherano is a good player at his job. Its just his job is so negative, and he is not as good as any of the players that you mentioned at going forward other than Nige and Makelele.
25/05/2008 22:18:00
Villan444, Chelsea played three more games than us, Arsenal one game less, Manu two games less, and we outscored Chelsea and Manu by more than 10 goals, Arsenal by three goals. "Anderson, Flamini, Gilberto, Hamann and even Mikel have more strings to their bows than just defending or breaking up play" So does Mascherano, he's a good passer of the ball, and he scored a goal and assisted on another for us. We don't play as good as Arsenal or Manu, but we play better than the rest of the clubs in the league, including Villa. By the way, Hamann played for us for seven years and he isn't as good as Mascherano. The Argentinean is a much better passer, a better tackler, has more pace than Hamann, and covers more ground. He kept the best player in the world, Kaka, quite in the CL final last year. Kaka only got into the game after Mascherano was subbed for a forward as we were chasing the game, and sick note thinks he's a championship player. Hilarious.
25/05/2008 21:17:00
Yeah JD, the french league is quality?? Anderson, Flamini, Gilberto, Hamman and even Mikel have more strings to their bows than just defending or breaking up play, thats half the players that you mentioned. Nige should be playing the Makelele role but roams forward and even set up a goal from a shot in our last game. You are the one showing your ignorance now. You need to face the fact that even though Liverpool scored more goals than any other Prem team in all competitions (as you keep mentioning,) you were playing against sausage sellers and you played more games than anyone else, you play crap football and NO neutrals enjoy watching you. Your diehard ignorance and devotion to the team is admirable but you really should listen to supporters from other teams, not just Villans, to realise the situation of your tunnel visioned lack of understanding of the real world of football.
25/05/2008 20:26:00
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