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Beef Berger Doesn't Mince His Words

Patrik Berger has spoken about Gareth Barry and says he should leave Villa and go to Anfield.

In an article for The Telegraph, the Czech Midfielder, now public enemy number one amongst Villa fans (!) said:

'It is Liverpool and if I was in Gareth's position I would go there tomorrow. It's the opportunity of a lifetime, it would mean Champions League and challenging for trophies every season. The manager is doing a fantastic job here, but I think to reach the top four it will take more time, more work and more players.'

Fans in the Vital forum are saying Berger should be shipped out immediately: Click Here But lets be honest without our claret and blue specs on, what exactly has he said wrong? These players aren't fans of clubs, they are staff and they have to think about their own careers surely?

If I was in Barry's position, (he is not a fan, he is a member of staff) what would I do? 10 years in one job and no European football? Possibly 100k a week and a new challenge? Champions League football whilst at the pinnacle of my career?

Where is Berger wrong? MON is doing a good job (not sure fantastic yet but we are moving forward) but we were out of both cups at the first hurdle, we could have challenged for 4th with proper players being brought in last summer but that was totally screwed up.

Barry waited last year, he was excited at the prospect of the world class players incoming and we got Harewood (nice chap, 100% commitment, but come on, the next level?), Moustapha Salifou who hasn't been played and Wayne Routledge (in January) who again, to date, hasn't got a look in despite a wafer thing squad.

Maybe Berger shouldn't have said that in public, but I can't argue, as much as I'd like to, with what he said.

This summer we 'might' do the business in the transfer market, does Barry take the risk and end up being disappointed again?

Careers are short, yes we helped build Barry's career but a few seasons ago (under David O'Leary) he was the only bugger who cared and was the one that kept Villa up.

Not sure he owes us anything does he?

Personally I'd rather see him at least see out his contract but an unhappy player is not good in the dressing room so....?

Always good to remember that no one person is bigger than our fantastic club, I hope to God he stays as I've been a Barry bore for years, I think he is quality, but a club this size does not have to beg anyone to remain, we've survived departures before, we'll survive departures again. One thing we (hopefully) can be sure of is this current board won't be giving any players away, the clubs that want our lot can either cough big time up or sling their hooks!

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The Journalist

Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday May 5 2008

Time: 10:48AM

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I can see Barry leaving without a doubt this summer, and we cant really blame him. I think we can find a replacement though and he wont be missed 'that' much. Barry doesnt socre enough goals and play killer passes to our midfield playmaker.
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05/05/2008 10:59:00

When I spoke to Sir Dennis Mortimer on Saturday (name dropping) he said if he was in Barry's shoes he would leave, players careers are short and Mortimer told me any player who says they dont want to win things is lying, and the way he saw it Barry had the opportunity to join a club in a better position than us and playing in the best European competition every season. If Barry goes it is not the end of the world, big players have left before and we have always done alright, McGrath left we continued to be the top 6 for a few years, Yorke left we went to the top of the league for abit, all we need to do is hope MON is able to bring in a decent player to replace him. UTV
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05/05/2008 11:12:00

I just want it sorted as soon as possible either way.
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05/05/2008 14:57:00

If I went around telling my senior managers at work that they should leave and go and join one of our competitors they would tell me to shut up. If I went shouting it to the newspapers then I would be sacked. Berger should keep his opinion to himself and show a bit of respect for the club that is currently employing him and has paid his wages which must amount to about 500k per minute he's actually spent on the pitch. Get rid.
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05/05/2008 15:05:00

I am now really 99% sure he has gone - if he wanted to stay we would have heard by now. The thing that gets me is that we paid 8.5m for Reo-Coker and 6.5m for Petrov. Barry is much much better than both of these players. If Carrick, Mascherano and Hargreaves etc are in the 18m bracket we must not accept a penny less than 16m. I would think that Liverpool cant afford that and I like the sound of Riise and Crouch in part exchange but few others......I have heard Pennants name banded about - do you think he could play RW for us effectively?? Anyways I want to see us really digging our heels in for 16m or so - everyone knew last summer that Reo-Coker wanted out of West Ham, West Ham wanted him out, he wanted to move to us and we were the only club really after him and West Ham STILL managed to squeeze every last penny out of us to get the move through. WE MUST DO THE SAME WITH BARRY!!!
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05/05/2008 15:34:00

Totally agree Deano, we have sold too many players too cheaply in the past and this can not continue. If Barry doesn't like it he can see out his contract and go on a free, if not we are the vendors and we set the price, not Liverpoll (who have every right to make any offer they choose but we have the right to say no) and certainly not the red-tops (not talking about Siggy and Murph here :oP )
Villan Of The North
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05/05/2008 15:48:00

Liverpool are not challenging for anything domestically. Without Gerrard and Torres they are a mid table team and we would beat them easily.
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05/05/2008 15:55:00

I think Berger is right, BUT it's a closed shop - Liverpool want the player unsettled so we are left with an unhappy bunny and in the end we have to sell. The crucks is the price, 10m plus donkeys or we'll end up with 14m plus appearances. We always get shafted here as we aren't in Europe and most players and agents are pimping their players for a top 4 move. All decent players leave for the continent from the top 4 clubs, we'd have paid for Henry, Viera, Van Nistlerooy etc.. but they wouldn't be allowed to join us. You only have to loolk at the Heinze/Tevez/Mascherano situations last season to see how bloody crooked the transfer market is.
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05/05/2008 16:22:00

It's not about anyone's opinion, it's about Barry's opinion. No matter what anybody says if he wants to stay he will. No one can unsettle a player thats content no matter how much they try. If you expect Barry to come out now and say he's staying! you must be nuts! when he's got a new contract on the table. I wouldn't, would you?
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05/05/2008 18:56:00

You made a good case, like the man who can now only PAT a quality player on the back, advice him to leave as he has no TRICKs of his own anymore & only interested in his Czech I Beg to differ though when you say a club this size does not have to beg anyone to remain, we've survived departures before, we'll survive departures again. If Survive is avoid the Drop Maybe A Club of our size could only attract the players you mentioned earlier with supposedly an open Cheque Book Without Barry, even those players would have turned us down for the better offers they had elsewhere. The Club will move backwards again if he leaves, yes the infrastructure has been improved I thought the relationship with fans as well until greed acquired my seats I do agree Gareth should do what is best for him now, that would not be Liverpool but Arsenal Manu or Chelsea if his future is not with Aston Villa. That is where the real quality lies it will be Liverpool spot the rest of us will be chasing
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05/05/2008 18:57:00

I believe we have to have Europe to sign anyone decent this summer. I'd like to see any argument otherwise. Retaining our best talent from others is hard too. Newcastle have repeatedly outbid everyone for players - Rooney, Woodgate & Modric. So I suggest we all get all our expectations adjusted for the summer.
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05/05/2008 19:15:00

i have instantly lost all respect i may ever have had for patrik berger. whether he is right or not i don;t care. saying that is exactly the wrong message for any member of staff of any club/company/organisation/team to make. its particularly disappointing because we are trying to push towards where liverpool are, and where i believe we will be in the next few years.
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05/05/2008 20:12:00

Ho dare he come out with these comments hours after his worst performance in a Villa shirt! I like Beger but he was comically bad against Wigan
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05/05/2008 22:55:00

Shut ur trap Berger ya turncoat. If barry goes to liverpool he's not even guarenteed a starting place just ask Crouch where he would rather be playing right now. I'm sure he'd choose a starting place with villa rather then being a backup player for liverpool!
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06/05/2008 09:17:00

Fine him 3 weeks wages and cancel his contract!
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06/05/2008 09:27:00

If Barry's heart is on moving to Anfield then let him go for the right price, however for Villa this would be a step backwards. If Villa do indeed have ambitions of achieving CL football and breaking he top 4 then we must start looking at why we should be selling our captain to a team who are our closest challengers in the top 4. MON said he didn't want to be a feeder Club for the top 4 so how will he react if Barry leaves for Merseyside?
Hoss The Villain
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06/05/2008 09:34:00

What's pee'd me off about these quotes is that he's apparently said in one breath that Barry should leave and in another that it's getting harder for anyone to break into The Top 3 (plus L'pool) and the only way to do it is to haold on to your best players. Er... Precisely Patrick. So why don't you SHUT UP YOUR BIG MOUTH!!
Adam Deuce
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06/05/2008 10:28:00

berger; go and find a corner to die in. t.osser.
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06/05/2008 12:38:00

Had to laugh at the "challenging for trophies" comment. The job dodgers only challenge for the Champions League (despite the fact they haven't been champions for 18 years). If GB wants to go, then let him. Don't want players who don't want to be here. Just got to get the best price for him.
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06/05/2008 13:00:00

MON has said he won't play this weekend and therefore has played his last game. Have to say Berger's comments are immensely disappointing when you consider we pay his wages. Pleased MON has taken this stance it shows that he wants everyone pulling in the same direction.
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06/05/2008 14:40:00

Way out of order Berger. Surely it would have been better, certainly the right thing under the circumstances, to keep that mouth of yours firmly shut?
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06/05/2008 15:03:00

All very well but you never told us how far the hook should be slung :-)
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07/05/2008 02:34:00


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