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No Decision On Carson

With the season drawing to a close, Martin O'Neill has said he has made no firm decision on the future of Scott Carson.

There's no doubt that Carson has talent and potential and it's a well known fact that goalkeepers generally come on in leaps and bounds as they mature. Problem is, especially since the Croatia game, his confidence has seemed very shot and he's let in way too many goals that you would expect a keeper of his quality to keep out.

The reported fee of 10 million has made plenty of fans nervous, so it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

Speaking to the Beeb, O'Neill said:

"We have Scott until the end of the season and when we talked about it in the first place, there was no decision going to be made one way or another until the end of the season.

"Now, of course, if someone does very well then there is talk about 'can you hurry this on?' or if someone is not doing so cleverly then the talk is 'well, what are you doing about it?'

"That is a natural question for people to ask me - but an unnatural one to answer.

"I will wait until the end of the season. Liverpool are heavily involved now in competitions so we will wait and then all parties will sit down."

To prove the point, O'Neill added:

"With all the hullabaloo surrounding Liverpool at the moment, I would have been surprised if they were sitting down to have a discussion (about Carson). At the end of the season we will decide - all of us.'

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Writer: Mike Field Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday April 28 2008

Time: 3:20PM

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I think you should keep him.
Fan of Blues
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28/04/2008 15:25:00

No Decision yet, sounds like Carson in his box
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28/04/2008 16:01:00

Canat see us splashing out 10m for the lad, dirty reds can either half their price or ***** off. Id take him for 5m but bring someone else in to for him to compete against. Not convinced me that hes there YET to be a top prem keeper, concentration lacks and half the time looks like hes thinking of something else. But he's young and plenty of things to learn, i dont see as ***** keeper, i see a young keeper who, with the right tweaking, could be very good for us! but 10m no way.....if they ask 10 for carson we should say 30m for barry.
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28/04/2008 16:03:00

Yep,i agree and 5-6m would be a fair price plus that is what MON is edgeing towards i reckon.
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28/04/2008 16:50:00

To be honest, I rather carson in goal next season then the other folk we are looking at. Yes I'm not confident in him at all at the moment but I've got a good feeling next year he will improve dramatically. I feel he'll be a solid keeper and if we let him go we'll be kicking ourselves later. I agree 10 million is too much and I wouldn't want to pay that either. Do you think any team would pay that much for him? But I agree, 10m for Carson is equivallent to 30m for Barry.
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28/04/2008 18:11:00

Well I'd like to see Carson go back to Liverpool. 5-6 million is too much for a portentially good keeper when we need someone who can do it now. Do we really want to pay 5-6 million for him to sit on the bench for the next 3-5 years whilst he matures? Not me anyway. If Guzan has the potential people have spoken about he could be the business as he is about the same age as Carson but cheaper and more likely to accept sitting on the bench whilst learning his trade. Americans do tend to make decent keepers too, I guess it's the fact that they are allowed to use their hands, far more natural for a septic :oP
Villan Of The North
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28/04/2008 18:13:00

Carson is not worth 10mil at the moment. We know that, MON knows that, and I am sure Liverpool know that, so for that reason I am not gonna believe the papers on this one, as i reckon the people who matter - us and liverpool, probably have a better idea of how much he is worth, probably the 5-6mil mentioned above.
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28/04/2008 18:59:00

Not convinced about all this 'can only get better' talk. There's absolutely no guarantee of that. Its possible of course, but to me he just doesn't have the basics right, basics upon which he can develop and improve. 3-4 million maybe, but I'm convinced we could get more for our money by looking elsewhere - and looking elsewhere doesn't mean Paul Robinson!!
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28/04/2008 20:33:00

I agree that in the long term Robo is not the answer but could he be a stop-gap for a couple of years whilst we bring someone like Guzan on? Robo has had a severe dip of form this season but he is a quality keeper and he is pretty much the finished article. If Guzan has the potential that MON and his staff seem to think he has I'd persevere with getting him in with a view to him being the number 1 choice in 2-4 years with an affordable keeper filling the gap until then, someone proven at prem level and good enough even if not the superstar we would all like to see between the sticks at VP.
Villan Of The North
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28/04/2008 20:42:00

No one knows how good Guzan is so let`s get Carson and him and roll with it.
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28/04/2008 20:58:00

Yea. Guzan let in 5 goals agains the LA Galaxy the other day... That's only the MLS!
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28/04/2008 22:16:00

LAVillan, so dos that make him a poor keeper, or are all goals automatically the keeper's fault now. As for Guzan, I did say, "If Guzan has the potential that MON and his staff seem to think he has......", well I'd trust MON and his staff to make that decision above any one of us. You will also note that I said,"whilst we bring someone like Guzan on" which does not mean him but someone like him, or in other words soneone young with potential but also the willingness to take the time needed to learn arguably the most demanding and difficult role on a football pitch whilst also not costing the earth as apposed to Carson who expects first team prem action now and is expected to cost at least 5-6 million, a fee that is well beyond what he has shown us so far and with absolutely no guarantee of progression. Or should we have paid a similar fee for Richard Wright a couple of years ago. He was due to be the next big thing and got his dream move to Arsenal where he was so sucessfull he made all of 12 appearances, he then moved to Everton where he was far more sucessfull making 60 apperances over....oh yeah.......5 YEARS befre being released. In my opinion Richard Wright showed far more potential than Carson and he never really made it so please let's get real about what Carson is, untried potential that has so far been shown wanting when it comes to pressure situations. Well if that's your ambition for Villa then I think I'll give up now and follow Chelseas as they at least get quality when they are ripped off!!!!
Villan Of The North
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28/04/2008 22:37:00

Best option by a million miles for me is if we can take advantage of the disharmony in the Chelsea ranks to prise away Cudicini - surely he must have had enough of splinters in his arris by now and wants to play as a first choice for an exciting Villa team that are going places?
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29/04/2008 07:19:00

Good call Yatesy bu we still need a new number 2, even if Taylor stays most clubs have three keepers. Would you want Carson? Not at 5-6 million I wouldn't.
Villan Of The North
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29/04/2008 10:45:00

if MON can get carson for about 3-4 million and cudicini for 3 as well, thats gotta be ok?
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29/04/2008 13:17:00

los_angeles_villan, what's your take on this Guzan? My bros-in-law in Ohio doesn't speak highly of him at all, and tells me that he was to blame for at least three Galaxy goals this past weekend. I'd be interested to hear your views.
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29/04/2008 14:12:00

Carson gets blamed for every goal that we concede, but when it is Guzan its obviously someone else to blame. Dont forget Robbo is a top keeper but like so many footballers he needs to feel loved, when Robbo is valued by his manager he is one of the best. O'Neill would get the best out of him.
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29/04/2008 15:20:00

NO, NO. No one will take our Cudicini! ;)
Fan of Blues
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29/04/2008 15:35:00

At the age Carson is, I can't see anyone better than him out there at the moment, so we should buy the lad, and let MON work his magic on him. By the time he's finished with him, he'll think he's Gordon Banks.
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29/04/2008 17:12:00

i wish MON will have a look at the PFA team of the season for all the leagues in england. Hennesy, Kieren, and Joe Lewis. VERY VERY exciting goalkeepers playing outside the premier league. ok, that aside. what benham said is actually true. made me pondered further about Carson. and then, i pondered further...with maths...what if Carson+MON+abreakafterepl = GOD? gosh, i din realise he was THAT young. and this is coming from a person who is overly critical of carson. i hate him ffs. the way he flapped. but against everton, he showed some class. and i believe benham is right, he might be solid next season. and benham, barry is worth 100mil. u are so wrong there..
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29/04/2008 18:30:00

Can anyone see red scousers using Carson as bait in a deal to get (try to get) Barry from us? I dont think this would suprise me, and my option would be 5-6 mil for Carson or nothing and look elsewhere.
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29/04/2008 18:54:00

reports have suggested crouch, riise, carson or different mixes of the three as bait jayvilla.
The Fear
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30/04/2008 09:11:00

MON isn't a stupid guy. I'm sure he's fully aware Carson isn't worth 10million and is probably a few years away from being a top premiership keeper. Do we really have the luxury of waiting that long?
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