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O'Neill Takes Heart From Thumping?

Not sure, after a long and wet day the talk from Martin O'Neill really holds much mustard with me.

After two years in charge and money available but not spent, he was able to tell us after a 4-0 humiliation that Manchester United set the benchmark.

No shit Sherlock, they outclassed us in ever aspect of the game!

He told the official site:

'If you could ever try to set the benchmark, that's it. That's what we're trying to achieve, to play that level of football and to be as devastating as that.'

Maybe I'm just grumpy and wet through, but how exactly are we trying to achieve that? With Maloney, Harewood, Zat Knight etc? Yes, we are going to set the world alight and I bet when Osbourne was brought on for a striker (when 3 down if memory serves me right?) I bet Man Utd were quaking in their boots.

He added, 'Also, remarkably, they don't concede too many goals. Everybody talks about how fantastic they are in attack, but they've conceded something like 15 goals this season, that's fantastic.'

They won't concede many goals from us, we rarely shoot.

'We came up against a team right at the top of their game today; we have to admit they were splendid.They're riding high and their confidence is high at the moment. Even though we started brightly ourselves and took the game to them, the first goal was a poor one from our viewpoint and that set them on their way. We had plenty of possession in the game, but they've got world class players throughout the team and they're just splendid.'

Adding, somewhat mystifyingly: 'There were things there to give us heart. Eventually the scoreline was pretty strong, but we had one or two chances ourselves that could have made it more respectable.'

I saw nothing at all today to give the travelling fans any heart. The fans were spot on, A+ fantastic as usual, the shape of the team was not. I'm told we are moving forward with great strides. I hope those strides accelerate as I see nothing but humiliation following a result like that, other teams take it to Man Utd, just ask Portsmouth, we cower.

Right, will dry myself off and go sulk.... Wonder if I'll think these comments harsh when I read them in the morning. Somehow I doubt it. The bench for Villa has been pathetic this season and I'm afraid instead of telling us we can take heart, MON needs to correct the situation or get someone in as director of football who can spend money.

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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday March 29 2008

Time: 10:06PM

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I didn't see this one coming! I hate Man U!
Fan of Blues
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29/03/2008 22:54:00

i like MON but getting a little bored with some of his schpeel. there does need to be some more ambitious spending this summer, and not more blah-blah. i don't think anyone REALLY expected us to finish too high in the table this season, remember "top ten" was the most common call. that is where we'll finish. i think we could have done a lot better in january, ie; Defoe got a pair for pompey. MON is probably guilty of resting on his laurels here, and mistakenly thought the squad would last. my point is we need variety and that means a quality bench. go villa!
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30/03/2008 00:29:00

one other thing, there was a whisper of Lucas Podolski being sounded out. along with Mertesecker and Dica. that sounds more like it. perhaps?
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30/03/2008 00:31:00

go to, , and see what you make of this. interesting, maybe a bit of a conspiracy theory, but interesting.
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30/03/2008 02:34:00

Correction, Mr Fear. Portsmouth lucked out against United, there was very little "game-taking" involved. I mean no offence to the pompey boys, but I'm sure they'll admit that while it's great they got the result they did, they were outplayed for the large part of the game, and helped a lot by ManYoo's inability to actually score any of the plethora of chances that they created....a luxury that we were apparently not afforded. Not that that makes the result any easier to take. Still I'm surprised at you JP, usually so level headed and all.
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30/03/2008 04:41:00

Instead of spouting gobildeegook he needs to tell us why he had such a nitemare in Januarys transfer window.
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30/03/2008 09:09:00

lol, never been called level headed after a game before Carlosio. We were stuffed and talk of things to take heart from are just tripe, never seen a manager say something like that after a stuffing.
The Fear
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30/03/2008 09:57:00

I suppose you could say that yesterdays performance was so baffling you could take anything you like out the game. I said to my brother during the match that watching United was like watching someone who had gotten so good at a computer game that they spend most of the game showing off. We looked like a team that would be rated on the game as "beginner." It also reminded me of WWE wrestling where the winner is pre-ordained before the match but the art is to make it look like a real competition. Yesterday, we looked like particularly bad actors who couldn't even make it look like a contest. I mean we weren't even trying. We weren't. We just gave up as soon as Ronaldo scored and we looked utterly pathetic. I can take no heart from that performance whatsoever and want to know where the team from last month have gone? Do think MON left abroad?
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30/03/2008 10:21:00

For those who put a big value on stats, if you ignore the scoreline the game was pretty even! If you put store in winning we were battered! MON like any human will make mistakes, the reason managers get sacked so often is because fans aren't willing to accept mistakes and because generally fans are badly informed by the clubs as well as the newspapers. We all knew a couple of injuries and the lack of options in the squad could result in this kind of end, i'm sure martin did too. He took the risk because he didn't want to play top money for second best, we have to accept for a little while longer that not everybody feels Villa are the worlds greatest club, hard to understand, but sadly true!
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30/03/2008 10:53:00

Spot on Mr Fear. I'm bored by MON's comments when he has had chances to try and improve things. We have no depth to a squad which had to field 2 midfielders in defence and a centre back who has no interest as he is off in the summer. Most people on here seem taken in by this illustrious 5 year plan coming to fruition. Do you all think we are the only Club who has a 5 year plan to get to the top??? Is Harewood, Salifou, Knight, Petrov, Carson, Routledge, Maloney any better than some of the players we have disposed of or still have? Maybe they have a better spirit, but quality to compete with the best and bring us this 5 year plan of success, I doubt it. Football is a game of taking your chances and this year was a big chance for the Villa to go forward. A top 4 team is not going to win a domestic knock out trophy and the 4th spot is up for grabs. So what happens, we get dumped out of the Cups and when sitting in 4th place and the transfer window open do what? Seize the opportunity… no, we buy Routledge and sell 2 young centre backs. By this time next year we will nearly be 3 years into the 5 year plan but I believe we are losing pace with Clubs who also have our aspirations.
Hoss The Villain
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30/03/2008 11:01:00

Martin has to take the Blame for our current relegation form. He has decided what players to bring in & let go. He has had every opportunity to build, but has chose not to add quality players to the squad when they have come available (Defoe) & most importantly left us without players in key positions(RB) or back up for key position. He has kept having blind faith with out of form favourites to the detriment of the clubs future. Yes I agree he is a good manager but it may be time for him to move into international football as he cannot handle the current transfer market. What would he do if he was at a top flight club refusing to pay the price for true internationals. We now are being told Once More that we will venture into the market to rebuild; well it did not happen last time when we were told to expect major signings.
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30/03/2008 11:55:00

Spot on Hoss
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30/03/2008 12:04:00

to be honest we was outplayed by a better team, that's it!!!!! fans knee jerk all the time, a month ago we was great now MON is an idiot, niether of which are true. MON has a hell of ajo on his hands, he has too rebuild the stock in Aston Villa. We was relegation fodder when he signed now we have a real chance of European football not this year but soon. Now all those fans climbing on MON's back think on where we were and where we are and where we are going to be. As for fatKev where was you when things were going well???? as for Defoe he was never going to come to Villa while Redknapp was in for him. He signed him as a boy for West Ham.
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30/03/2008 12:18:00

What the hell has happened to Agbonlahor, he has become a shadow of the player he was earlier in the season. How many times did he miss-control the ball or just let it run out of play. Seriously he can forget about that first england cap if he keeps playing like that!!
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30/03/2008 12:43:00

Our season has petered out, I just hope that in the summer MON brings in quality players, with top flight experience, in numbers. This is a must, this summer is going to be so impotant to the club in terms of transfers, please MON dont let us down in that department. One bright note, hats off to the villa away fans who were still singing even though we were loosing 4-0, great effort guys!
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30/03/2008 13:14:00

yeah i heard the villa fans at 4-0 me and my bro were chuckling to yepee i ohhhhhhhhh, ha ha brilliant. Im an MON supporter but he has stuffed up in transfer windows he's had 3 transfer windows to get a right back that he wants, you cant just stand still. I felt sorry for reo-coker at RB agaisnt man utd , he did the best he could. Lets hope for better in transfer window, cos we were shockingly bad everytime they attacked they look like scoring missed reo-coker in his holding midefield role, he even passed quite well yesterday, their is hope!
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30/03/2008 13:42:00

What is wrong with M0N, thought he might have commented what depth of squad Man Utd had compared to our smallest squad in the Premiership. Maybe he has come to realise he had the opportunity to do something about that in Jan transfer window and did nothing about it except bring in 1 player that cannot even et on the bench.
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30/03/2008 14:55:00

Did anyone here actually think we would beat Manure at the Toilet? Cause I was expecting the worse and they way we played lately quite glad it was only 4!!!!!!! So lets back MON and really get behind him and who knows what may happen, positive thoughts and I REALLY HATE MANURE!!!!!!
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30/03/2008 19:07:00

I blame the ref! LOL.....
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30/03/2008 19:13:00

I don't think the manager or players can argue that we've not backed them and backed them brilliantly all season erv2005?
The Fear
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30/03/2008 20:38:00

What Impressed me more than anything was Manyoo's ability to maintain the tempo of passing attacking football even when they were 3-0 up. Most teams would have taken their foot off the throttle but Manyoo have to be applauded for their efforts over 90 minutes.
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30/03/2008 22:30:00

We were taken apart, and had our rears well and truly spanked. Sorry, but there was nothing on show to take heart from.
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