Don't Tarnish Villa Fans By Minority

you knob ... all that BS just so you can put 2 links that have nothing to do with happened yesterday. Have you ever thought of writing for the daily mail? are you so dumb you dont see the irony in your last sentence?

By putting those two links he is pointing out that its unfair how some Arsenal fans are generalising all Villa Fans with the minority from yesterday, when Arsenal have a simular set of fans who like the sing contraversial chants. Its abit of the Pot calling the kettle black (or however that saying goes lol). It wasn't good, and the majority of Villa fans are dissapointed to see this happen, it would be a great shame to see our great away support this season tarnished by one incident. I just wonder had this happend agains't a team like Blackburn or Bolton, would the media would be making such a big deal out of it?

Too right. Eduardo is alive. He sustained an injury in the workplace. The chants were in bad taste, sure, but Arsenal are the last club who should be complaining about what is sung on the terraces!

You are trying to claim there has never been a time in Arsenal's history when more than a tiny minority of fans belittled the extermination of 7,000,000 people in order to attack Spurs? It happened.

exactly the point deano_t. I've seen some posts on sites today blaming all when it is just a minority at all clubs.

Damn, just had an email from an ex, apparently I'm not a knob, massive or otherwise, I'm a little****. :o)

how do I explain it? Because it is a shame that this has become the topic of conversation and not the game, I considered whether to do a quick article on this or to 'hide' from what happened, I decided to answer the rubbish some have been posting generalising. Not sure I particularly need to justify myself for publishing anything I want in fairness but wanted to point out that the vast majority of Villa fans don't think that way + there are elements at all clubs. Where am I wrong in either stand point?

These Arsenal fans and their holier than thou attitude. Its getting old already.

Actually, that was at White Hart Lane, which is probably even worse.

Having sat above the villa fans yesterday and listened to what was a very large 'monirity' singing the songs, I can only descride them as scum. The brum fans showed some respect last week even though they had a player sent off. A large group of villa fans went out and within a week wrote and distributed a song for the game. How sick is is that. Villa fans moan about the amount of injury time added after a villa player is booked for time wasting. No one is coming out from Villa looking at this and condemning it, rather they are saying everyones is at it. I dont Wenger was saying there are too many intelligent people in the villa fans...

Fair enough Bob, but to actually witness it was one of the most sickening things I have seen in a long time. I am just amazed some thought this was a good idea and others followed, be on the train or otherwise. Its dishearting to see villa fans complain about injury time that can be justified, and simply blank this.

Iceman - rubbish, where i was stood most people were telling them to shut up, most on here have said it was wrong, i'm sure you have the same element of idiots at your club - for example the ones throwing coins at us last season and this...but like Wenger you probably didn't see this

Hypocrytical Arsenal fans. No set of supporters can claim that their own fans don't sing horrendous songs about the opposition. Arsenal about Gas Chambers, United about Hillsborough, Most teams about Munich. It happens, most don't agree with what is sung and most don't sing it but we all know it goes on. To the Arsenal fans complaining, do you tell your own fans to shut up when they sing about gas chambers ? Do you go onto the Spurs site and apologise for your own minority of fans ?

Bloody hell, abolsoutely ridiculous from you (select few) moaning Arsenal fans. Double standards springs to mind. I think you should stop moaning about the chants. It's pretty obvious its the minority its difficult to police, what do you want villa to do have a look at the fans hymn sheet before they enter the ground? you can sing this but you cant sing that its too offensive for the minority on the vitalarsenal football network who seem to think every villa fan is the same. Just shut the hell up and talk about football

I know but i was looking at the football related articles and you gunners kept cropping up moaning about the Eduardo song, so i came on this article to give a non football related comment. When you got a bee in your bonnet you dont half milk it for all its worth.

I'v just read what the chant was and its not in good taste but that really is pretty tame to the racial abuse and anti semetism that is sometimes chanted, by again MINORITY NUMBSKULLS,,there is not getting way from these people

The bloke is still alive and going to play again. I have heard worse. Sticks and stones etc. And then we have the self proclaimed eternally persecuted Jewish complaining on this article. It was definitely in poor taste and by no means am I condoning it but there are more important things.

It was not a minority yesterday, I sit miles from the away fans and heard it clearly. However, JP makes some fair points, there are some bad chants that we have been tainted with (which I mention in my report). The only point of correction is that those three fans aren't suing for songs about the holocaust, it is to do with the general term 'Yido' being used. It's a case that cannot in any way win and the three should be counter sued for wasting court time. Though I agree that we shouldn't use the blanket term.

And rotter, the death threats to Taylor were from Croatia fans.

Have to agree Little Dutch, no chance of winning, especially as Spurs fans themselves (who by the way had a minority singing in praise of Taylor yesterday!) call themselves Yids and Yid Army.

Not a case of what I believe Cowans, I've told you honestly what I've heard at games I have been at. You make a fair point about our home fans, the amount who left was a disgrace and I shouted at a guy in myrow who left in injury time, ultimately they got what they deserved because they missed the goal. I'm not making too much of it at all, it was out of order, but all teams have isiot fans. What was disappointing was that a hell of a lotof the travelling Villa fans joined in. But it doesn't taint the fact that Villa are a club on the up.

And also by all means defend yourselves and a lot of you have made fair comments, but don't just make up lies to back up your arguments, singing about Munich and Hillsbrough? Rotter, you know as well as I do that you have no knowledge of Arsenal fans ever doing that en masse, but you're just mudslinging desperately. Bottom line, there are a lot of idiots that get into football stadiums, but nobody in their right mind should imagine for a second that a few idiots represent an entire club.

great point mr beck all i can see on my screen are the words of the venga boys, get over it, you are worse than your diving players.

onwards and upwards for the villa.

also the equaliser was within the time allocated by the ref so we need to stop moaning about that.

Arsenal fans are soooo enlightned we can only learn from them.

Look guys, we all have moronic fans in our clubs. I tried to resist dwelling on this thing after last night but there's a few things I'd like to say, sorry if someone's said it before. (1) LD wasn't even remotely hinting our fans were "better than anyone else's". (2) I on the other Villa thread asked a fellow Gooner not to generalise just because a few hundred Villa fans taunted Eduardo. We know that's a minority but sadly quite loud at our stadium where home noise only comes in patches. To be honest I thought 55,000 should have been able to out-sing those sickos but that sadly didn't happen. But I guess that's the way it is sometimes at a big London stadium full of corporate customers alongside with fans. So if those who sang those chants were a minority among Villa fans, those who generalised anything were an even smaller minority among Arsenal fans. (4) That's just one thing that Arsene Wenger got asked post-match, where he said many other things. He said that behaviour's stupid, end of. To single out that one quote and say he "keeps moaning" is exaggarating too. (5) Whether Eduardo's recovering well is beside the point. Nobody deserves any song like that and both managers condemned it and rightly so. What, if he's walking soon, you could sing sickening songs about his horrendous injury now? No matter what you thought of that tackle, the guy himself deserves respect and only respect. (6) If you don't fall for that 'persecution complex' thing blown up in the media, fair play to you. Because judging from what I saw in the subscriber's content from Arsenal, from which the press took content to do many of their stories, mostly, like 70% of the time they, like I said above, single out one Wenger quote and sensationalise things in the theme of 'Here we go, Wenger moaning again.' Especially in the headlines, which in some cases, have very little to do with the actual content. You know what I mean. (7) Let's not cry 'double standards' too easily. A lot of Arsenal fans, I dare say the majority, condemn those sickening chants too. Like you guys said for yourselves, you got your share of terrible "fans", we got ours and every club has their own. Where's the 'double standard' if we condemn the same kind of behaviour by our "fellow fans"? If you've read LD's writings and some others on this site, you know they're equally critical, or even sometimes ashamed, of our own "fans". Sorry for the long post. Just thought we need some perspective here.

Lou the.... some good points, most Arsenal fans like yourself are absolutely fine, then you have the minority of Arsenal fans generalising the majority ofVilla fans. as you say 50 odd posts is not even worth getting heated about it, as us the majority know what the minority are like and know better to raise to the bait

The Emirates Library is always quiet even though away fans always sing more. All the home fans near me didn't have a clue about anything football related and few even spoke English. Corporateness is ruining football. We should encourage chants and banter but would have been nice to hear fans booing from both sides if certain lines are crossed.

Villan444, yeah I had 1.5 posts, now on 2.5 out of 59. But as I said, I didn't want to dwell on it cos I knew it's just another minority group of bad fans, which every club has. What I meant by "not worth 50+ comments" was that the article's agreeable and there's no point arguing with it, where tbh some points above weren't entirely relevant to the issue. Just looking at how your other actually good and newsworthy articles only received a few posts, this small issue on this thread isn't that worthy of our attention really, because we're in agreement about this kind of behaviour, among Villa or Arsenal or any club's fans. So I'm with on this Glensider - let's move on. Hehe I promise this is the last post so my tally stands at 2.5 posts here. Chill and cheerio.

PARIAH CLUB, NO CLASS. U DESERVE TO BE THE TOP 4'S SPARING PARTNER ONLY, NOTHING MORE. WHAT A SHAME!

The report of the match on the Arsenal page is so pompus the league is slipping through their fingers and all this crap diverts their attention from it.Lou the Gunneress' attitude is why I like Arsenal fans,I still would prefer them to win the league over Manyoo.

Boo hoo a man you don`t know broke his leg and some fans compared him to heather mills get it in perspective and get a life.

storm in a tea cup all this nonsense, this has always gone on in football, and always will. it is tasteless and i dont condoln it but there will always be a mindless few in football. who gives a ***** anyway?!?!?

FFS, a few songs sung by a minority of supporters about a player who is injured. Injured! Its not like he has died for christ sake.

I thought its the papers who are mostly worried about these comments... I didnt find many Arsenal fans complaining about it. We are more worried on tomorrows match... take it light mates... it happens all the time

considering the stuff that was thrown at Beckham in the none too distant past, this was extremely trivial, for any of you who can,t remember what thousands chanted at every ground in the country it went from his wife takin it up the arse, to hoping his kids died from cancer! lets hope that next week the Arsenal fans find a voice and drown it out.

I wouldnt take much notice, every team would do it.....