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Villa Wait For Pompey Complaint

Head of Villa communications Phil Mepham has responded to the comments made by Harry Redknapp about the 'vile' abuse he faced by some supporters.

Phil said if Portsmouth make a complaint Villa will look into it adding:

'There are stewards behind the dug-out area and they are trained in all types of security. We would really need to see the degree of the complaint before we could go any further. As a club we would say that this does not reflect the general behaviour of our supporters who have a good reputation. Under the new ownership of Aston Villa, a real effort is being made to make our supporters feel more part of the club with a number of initiatives brought in this season.'

Martin O'Neill also added that he'd not heard the comments but agreed managers shouldn't have to put up with abuse.

'I didn't hear what was said but, if there have been chants emanating from the children's area with bad language, then that should not be tolerated anywhere. Everyone expects banter and no-one will ever be able to prevent it. When you go to any away ground then you expect to take come kind of abuse. Every England player knew they were going to be in for some after the defeat against Croatia. It's something which happens.'

What Unhappy 'Arry Slates Abuse doesn't mention is he was gesturing to the Holte End. I didn't see any of it but if that is true - and I have no reason to doubt it is with the number of Villa fans in the forum talking about it - then he should be long enough in the tooth now to realise he'll get a reaction?!

Must admit I'm surprised he got abuse from the Trinity, always thought 'Arry was a pretty popular figure in football.

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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday December 10 2007

Time: 12:43PM

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As I said before he deserved all he got. The original chant was aimed at the referee for being so poor. Harry then made the gesture and there was only 1 way the chants were going to go from there.
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10/12/2007 12:51:00

In the first half the chants were banter and good natured and as Deano said were more ironic and aimed at the ref. It then appeared, rightly or wrongly, from where I was sitting in the lower Holte that he gave us a V sign. Even the Pompey fans have admitted that were the roles reversed with the allegations against Harry they would have given MON loads. If the abuse he was getting was from individuals in the lower Trinity, behind the dugout, why didn't he complain there and then to the stewards and why did he feel the need to gesture to the Holte? Personal and nasty abuse shouldn't be tolerated and is wrong. Gesturing to an entire home end is also wrong if you are upset with certain individuals and inflamed the situation further. I also object to the inference that all Villa fans are "filthy and vile". Think we touched a raw nerve with Mr. Redknapp.
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10/12/2007 13:09:00

Mountains out of molehills springs to mind.
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10/12/2007 13:11:00

Agreed Jon, he seemed to bring peoples kids into things and suggested that they shouldn't be swearing in front of them and saying that the fans weren't bringing them up properly. Well for starters Arry should not be giving the "V"s in front of them. Me thinks that the recent raid on his house by the authorities has turned him bitter and the fading chances of getting the England job that he was coveting have got to him and his normal jovial self is non existant.
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10/12/2007 13:22:00

****ing whinging ****
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10/12/2007 13:24:00

I dont think that there'll be any complaints from Pompey or Mr Redknapp, the day after the game he gave an interview and said "it was an unwise reaction". My eldest daughter asked me why he had stuck his fingers up to us , we were sitting in the upper Holte near the front and it did look like it was just the two fingers and not three so i can undrestand the onslaught of chants that follwed. Have to agree with Jon.H he should of just had a word with the fourth official who could have told a Villa rep. After all he had plenty of time with all the stopages in the last 20 mins.
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10/12/2007 13:36:00

Didn't see that interview Mutt_Man but if that is the case then that's that really. Onto Sunderland....
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10/12/2007 16:25:00

Sorry about such a long reply!
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10/12/2007 16:30:00

1. The 'filth' started AFTER Redknapp made a provocative gesture to the Holte End. I was sitting behind the dugout. The only filth heard before that was Harry himself calling everyone and anyone, from Players to the referee, C**ts. 2. The incident that kicked off Harry's tirade was someone shouting 'Have you paid the ref?'. Ouch! Please... 3. Harry has held a long time dislike of Villa since he was forced to replay a cup game against us for fielding an inelligible player when at West Ham. I know this because I have actually spoken to him about it when I lived in Portsmouth a few years back. I know people generally like Harry, I like him myself, but being a funny, bright character should not overshadow certain suspect aspects of his character. Anyone remember his tantrum at the suggestion he was disloyal for joining southampton just days after leaving Pompey? cos I do! harry has always bristled at the slightest of criticism. Anyone remember Harry's tantrum when Pomepy appointed a director of football? Cos I do! And more recently does anyone remember Harry's downright refusal to answer a question which asked how his recent arrest sat with accusations on the Panorama programme? Cos. I. Do. Mr Redknapp should not be immune from criticism, and frankly, given the colourful language he uses himself, should not be so self righteous in condemning the 'filth' kids are hearing at a game. If he wants support, he should answer the questions. If he doesnt want to answer the questions, then he should expect the criticism. How long are we expected to claim that corruption only happens n Italy or eastern Europe? How long are we to claim that it doesnt exist in this country just because we dont want it to exist? This is our sport and i'm not happy with the image and name of the game being dragged through the mud. and I have a right to make that displeasure heard. Watching Medes kick his way round the pitch without a single booking. Watching Pamarot drag Gabby a full five yards before the referee award a Pompey free kick. Those were just two of several questionable decisions. But we're not allowed to sing about them and we're certainly not allowed to tie those songs in with a very current affair in case we upset those involved. Well balls to Redknapps feelings! What about the game I love! The game that has been dragged through the mud with these allegations. Football is one of the few businesses that allows its consumer base to vocalise displeasure. We're not happy with Redknapp, and now he knows it. After the tevez affair, the disgraceful way Mike Newall was cold shouldered in the game after blowing the whistle and now with this latest incident I'm sick of the accused being treated as some sort of victim. 'They arrested me over an agent fee which is nothing to do with me...' Thats right. The City of London Police travel all the way to Poole to conduct a raid at 6 in the morning even though the person has no connection to the crime. I've enough knowledge of the justice system to know that they've raided him for a reason. Having said all that (!!) I think one sentence probably would have sufficed. Redknapp has kicked up this fuss to take the focus off his own gestures to the crowd.
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10/12/2007 16:30:00

......and at the same time tarnished our reputation as a fan base
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10/12/2007 16:38:00

Mr Lion - Excellent response. I remember Peter Shilton being found with a bird in his car. In unison the Holte sang, 'Tina, Tina...' or when Stanley Bowles came down after his missus ran off with the milkman and we sang, Where's the milkman, where's the milkman.......' It's factory humour in that you get the mickey taken out of you and you gve it back. I do think it's hypocritical when managers either swear themselves or don't challenge their own players who mouth off on TV for all to lip read. I had to laugh when Arry said, 'I had to be arrested because that's what the police have to do before they talk to you'!!! Yeh, only if you're under caution and have to have a lawyer present.
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10/12/2007 17:18:00

the bloke lost the plot when the holte end started what football fans do best....take the was pure satire and he lost it....its a smoke screen for him losing it.....if he cant take that stick he'd have no chance if he had the England job and the press turned on him....gone down in my estimation....
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10/12/2007 18:04:00

This was surely a nothing incident? Best for all to move on, with 'Arry accepting that he's going to get stick at away games, whether he deems it acceptable or not.
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10/12/2007 22:13:00

I cant believe the way Arrey has acted.He must have never heard children swearing before,such a thing would never occur in Portsmouth.This was his first trip to an away ground since his arrest and he's gonna get wound up at evey away ground after this.I cant wait until we play Portsmouth again.The Omoyimni incident was hilarious.
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10/12/2007 22:20:00

Harry Redknapp the ugly face of English Football. Take it on the chin Harry your certainly big enough and ......
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11/12/2007 05:53:00

he got off lightly...imagine how Becks must've felt having every man and his dog singing that his wife takes it up the chocca!
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11/12/2007 09:27:00

if he doesnt want to be tarnished with the same brush as some of the corrupt agents he uses, then he shouldnt use them or move in those circles. it was a vein attempt at 'arry da bung' to save some face, which failed. also to say he never witnessed such goings on when he went to the football with his dad to watch the arsenal is crap. of course he did. maybe he should consider carefully his own ethics and how he conducts himself in business before having a pop at villa fans. squeaky clean harry most definately is not!
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11/12/2007 12:03:00

Surely Pompey aren't going to make themselves in general, Harry in particular, look rather ridiculous, by lodging a formal complaint about the incidents? Move on, its going to happen to Harry again when he's next on foreign territory.
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11/12/2007 17:22:00

to be honest he just looks like a wally now. people in glass houses and all that...
The Usual Suspect
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12/12/2007 17:51:00

Free The Pompey One! 'Arry is innocent!! ??????????????
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13/12/2007 18:50:00


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