What Do You Think Of O'Neill So Far?

Mr Fear, can we have a voting option - disappointing given resources available - please

Would agree with that. Lucky to have Randy and the board, but I'm becoming increasingly convinced MON is holding this club back with his tactical ineptitude and stupidity in the transfer window. He has all the ability of Mark Hughes's left testicle.

What sort of ability has Mark Hughes left testicle then? Actually, scrub that, I don't think I want to know! ;-p

Tried to add the option gordonsleftboot but for some reason the admin isn't allowing it, so will try again later.

Thanks Mr Fear

I'm not 100% happy with MON's start but I think we need to be patient. At the end of next season is the time we can realistically judge him. Just bear in mind what Sir Alex did at MU. Rome wasn't built in a day.

So mark hughes's the dish of the week, now that sven lost 6-0, are some of you for real, when we beat blackburn home and away last season we completely dominted and mark hughes was speachless non of you wanted him then. but i guess we are fickle.

We all thought evolution not revolution was great a year ago, now it's taking a while everyone seem sunhappy. I'm delighted that we are seeing obvious improvement and while I don't think his transfer policy is spot on it's not as poor as some suggest.

Personally MON is doing a good job not great, he has not turned us completely around but we are on course. Look at the age of the squad, the speed of the squad, look at that we have a squad, we loose a couple of players through injury and suspension and we have people to come in and replace them. We did not have that a year ago, on that point everyone was talking about his lack of transfer activity and we did not do anything, but we did we have a squad.

NY, who replaced Reo Coker in midfield and Harewood hasn't won 1 header yet whereas Carew is a tower.

With the exception of Mourinho - who went in and won straight away with support of silly money - all other sustainable success has been BUILT over a period of TIME and PATIENCE!!! There are other good coaches in the world but we have one of the most intelligent and he is comparable to the very best. Because MON is good, doesn't mean that Fergie, Wenger, Sven etc. etc. aren't just as good. I was at Villa Park for that game when we all sang "Fergie must stay" as we thumped them. I felt like a bit of an idiot THREE YEARS later, after he'd been in the job for FIVE YEARS and won his first major trophy...... PATIENCE PLEASE (and how on earth can any of you say "get him out." Is it AVFC48 and Doug Ellis making up this 10%?????

Come on BobTheBuilder you can fix it!!! I think the debate is healthy and the majority realise that it will take time no matter who the manager is. Can't not be talking about managers and players though surely?

A mate pointed out to me recently and I repeated it in the Generals thread just how healthy Villa is now BECAUSE we are all talking managers, football, players like fans always do. All the bitterness and protests and rubbish are gone, we are doing what fans do, agreeing and disagreeing about who should play, who should manage, who was/is great at Villa and who we hate. That's football and I for one love it far more than the Ellis times, that just got repetitive and boring and at times looked like things would never change! [Edited by FearVilla]

gordonsleftboot. Sorry, haven't been able to add the option and think it will be too late now as we've had so many votes. :o(

and remember what i say is my opinion, you don't have to go with it, or even read it if you don't want to, it's just what i think, if you have a different view to me thats fine, so no mouthing off because we don't like someones view eh!

yeah, that was me being all positive though eltoro!!! Totally agree on your other point, although reading the other sites, fans are the same on all of them (the Spurs guys can be totally savage to each other!) Can't understand why we can't all have an opinion without the personal stuff I must admit!

At last some sense. Well done BobtheBuilder - you have saved me writing my view out in full. Do people really think that MON deliberately didn't buy more players in the transfer windows? Or would it be more realistic to assume he had other targets that we couldn't get? This isn't Football Manger 2007 you know. I'm not saying he is definitely going to succeed, but lets at least give him a decent run at it. Of course, everyone here is a qualified coach with years of experience, so they know better!!

Some people seem to forget that we are Aston Villa not Chelski or Manure. Trying to lure big names to us must be an amazing challenge for MON. He will need to prove it on the pitch before we start getting great players through the doors. He is by no means without his faults, the lead example being leaving us without a right-back.

I am a qualified gob CLVIlla, does that count? I think most agree though that MON should be given a decent chance don't they? I'd be surprised if there were more than 1 in 100 who would want a manager change at the moment, I might (and often am!) be wrong though.

All football debates are silly and pointless if you want to take that line though. What is football about? Talking about players, managers, supporting the team, seeing the good times and erasing the memory of the bad times. What is great as I've said above is people are now talking about football at Villa, debating managers and players, all the crap about bad owners, no money etc has gone. Massive step forward in my opinion.

I don't want MON out, I want him to have a fair chance and to show us what he can do, as others have said they nearly pulled the plug on Fergie once, but like any manager he will be judged on his actions, transfers results etc, he knows that more than any as it is his job and a massive reputation on the line. Some people to have short memories I agree, DOL wasn't that bad when he first came by the way, it was just he was useless at PR and turned the fans against him + man management in time turned some of the players as well. The footie when he first arrived was attractive enough though.

we are lucky to have him, he is building and trying to get it right, we will be fine under him. to top that lerner is here for the long term to make us great again. just think back two years and consider where we were, we are very lucky to have him!!!! one of the most respected managers in football aswell. maybe europe is out of reach this season but if we finish 8th this season then that is still progress. he doesnt waste money either, there is method to his madness, but it takes time to show. barry now a £15m international midfielder, young must be worth £20m, and god knows what gabby would be worth if he scores 15 for us this season. time and patience people.

spot on BobTheBuilder, i totally agree with you.........it takes time to build a team with the right ethics than MON installs in his teams....i have said before name me a manager that every player he signed has been a success....you wont find one......MON is one of the best managers we have had for since knows when......to the ones voting get him out get real and KEEP THE FAITH....

Hope that we are building a 4 storey mansion and not a bungalow!!

If you are a Villa Supporter and are calling for MON's head, then i would say very strongly - You do not have a clue about football.

And what reason do base your argument on KSarge1, that people don't have a clue?

I think MON will do a great job for Villa. But i have to admit his dealings in the transfer market have been terrible. He spends far too much on medoicre players. He should be spending that money on some decent talent.

I dont think some people realise how lucky we are to have him as he would be at the top of any chairmans list to be manager.

I think people are missing the point, having a go at people on this site just because they've become unhappy with MON, all the people in favour of MON keep talking about this five year plan! which is all well and true, some people who I won't name, are even calling me and others, glory hunters! now tell me if I'm wrong, but being a Villa fan for 40 years most definatley dosn't make me or anyone else for that matter a GLORY HUNTER, it's also been claimed, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL! what I do know is this, nearly a dozen games into the second year of the five year plan, we are playing poor football, that's not me being a glory hunter, thats me pointing out the facts, I'm also not impressed with MON's tactics, again, thats nothing to do with not knowing anything about football, its about watching the games and seeing it for myself! and 3rd, MON's purchases in the transfer market with the exception of Ashley young, have been poor, to be honest I don't see any improvment in the football we play now, than when other managers were in charge, this is not about whats going on behind the scenes, this is about whats happening on the pitch! I know you'll say wait for the players to come thru the system, but i can't see that making any difference, if the managers tactics are wrong and outdated it dosn't matter who's in your squad! look at Spurs great team of players, wrong tactics, wrong manager, it didn't work, look at England for god sake, Rooney, Gerrard, Barry, Owen, Terry, wrong manager, wrong tactics and even they play like amatuers, don't let the five year plan mask your judgement.

Martin is the man. He's doing o.k. The five year plan to get us back on track will be a long, hard road, with knock-backs and disappointment, but we're making progress, we're getting there. Stability. That's the name of the game. This club has never had it. Hopefully that is now changing.