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Are Villa in a deceiving position?

Are Villa in a deceiving position?

1-0 against the Hammers, 5th in the league tonight. We SHOULD be third, with a game in hand on the current leaders.

Despite having played Liverpool and Chelsea at home and Newcastle away, and despite being a positive sort of bloke in general, I'm worried that the position we are currently in is a false one. I think when the season started the majority of us would have settled for being 5th in the league at this stage, but despite the current lofty position I'm now very worried that we'll be able to maintain it. 1-0 against a struggling West Ham has not exorcised the ghosts of White Hart Lane for me.

If you look at the games we've played - we had a poor opening day performance against Liverpool. A game against Newcastle which we should have won. A poor performance against Man City, a desperate display against Leicester in the League Cup and a total defensive capitulation at Spurs. Our strikers look goal shy - Moore looked great in pre-season, now he looks woeful, Harewood was brought in supposedly as back up for Carew but even when he's injured he doesn't get a look in, Maloney simply wants out and Agbonlahor, for me, just doesn't look like he's going to score often enough. I just can't see him getting a brace or a hat trick for us.

Our midfield is good on paper, but at the same time underachieving. Young and Barry have had rave reviews but have only got one goal between them so far. Reo-Coker was supposedly the man to boss midfield, but we always seem to have less time on the ball than our opposition do. 45-55 or so in favour of West Ham today possession wise, and that's being optimistic. It's good to have Gardner back in midfield, but this just emphasises how far Petrov has fallen in the pecking order. Berger, having been given his new contract, is once again nowhere to be seen.

Spurs aside, our real strength so far has been our defence - and that's even with no recognised right back. Carson, Bouma, Knight, and Mellberg are the supporting act to Laursen, who has been a revelation so far this season. With Davies and O'Halloran waiting in the wings and Cahill on loan, this is the part of the side I am most comfortable with. They are having to work overtime however, due to the inability of the team to dictate the game and boss possession. And our lack of a right back WILL cost us. I'm dreading Nani, Ronaldo and Giggs arriving at Villa Park.


We really lack a goalscorer.
Our midfield is not controlling the game.
Our defence has a glaring weakness.

The most worrying for me is that the Spurs result will have given every team in the league hope. They know that if they throw the kitchen sink at us, they'll have a chance. 2-0 down? Well Spurs came back from three goals down. Any team that gets a late goal will rally, thinking they're in with a shout.

So given all this - how the hell are we fifth? And how long can we realistically stay there?

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Date:Monday October 8 2007
Time: 8:00AM


I believe we will improve as the season goes on. It's time to be positive and enjoy the process of lasting success!
08/10/2007 08:46:00
I think the defence has been solid as a rock, Laursen is head and shoulders above any defender in the country, including terry and Ferdinand. Melberg has been outstanding at RB but the big test will be against Ronaldo and co in a few weeks. Are we in a deceiving position? i don't thinks its deceiving more a suoprise and we deserve every point weve got (and posibly more). MON still needs to spend big in Jan. UTV
08/10/2007 08:50:00
No it's not a false position BBB but it is early season, simple as that. I can't imagine we will stay fifth for long. Agreed, absolutes for January - striker, RB and creative midfielder. But these should have been absolutes for the summer!
08/10/2007 09:05:00
Progress is being made - and we can't believe it so we have to look for problems. Of course the side needs strengthening - and I agree with the analysis of where this should be plus a right side midfielder of some description - but it was never going to one a one season job. Progress is being made - lets enjoy it. By the way with all the plaudits for Laursen, shouldn't we remember who signed him? he also signed Fear's favourite forward Baros & Bouma too. Perhaps he had his good points after all!
08/10/2007 09:46:00
yes,villa are in a deceiving position(8th),we should be in forth position with the points we have thrown away through our own sillyness eg. spurs and man city away also we should have got a point against liverpool if it wasnt for that cheating **** mike riley. very negative article in my opinion although i do agree we do need a goalscorer like defoe in january and a right back.this team will only get better and better as they learn each others game more and more. UTV
Belfast Villain
08/10/2007 11:21:00
Well, as predicted....didn't take long....slid down overnight to 8th! :)
08/10/2007 11:22:00
We are doing well, why be so negative ? we were the better side against Newcastle and Man City, Liverpool were lucky although they obviously had a bit more class, and West Ham have done well on their travels. The reason we came unstuck at Spurs was Harewoods ridiculous tackle on Bent which really put the pressure on the team leaving Spurs with one goal to get level at home, at 4-2 we still looked good, plus their last goal was offside three times, basically one of those freak games that happen from time to time. The squad obviously needs strenghtening in January otherwise we will struggle to maintain form, but so far so good, and we seem to be getting a little luck nowadays, whereas the past few seasons we have had no luck at all, it makes a lot of difference. I don't see the teams around us being any better than us, so I'm not worried as yet. One point I am worried about is that we are starting to go route one a little too much and Gabby isn't really a ball winner in the air, we look much better moving the ball around on the floor and pushing it wide. All in all we have a good basis, so lets hope for a bit of quality in January when a lot of teams exit Europe and players start assesing their options all over again.
08/10/2007 11:46:00
No we are not in a deceiving position, as the old platitude goes, "the table doesn't lie", we are where we should be based on our results. You can if, but and maybe until the cows come home but thems the points we have and that's the position we are in. End of....
08/10/2007 12:48:00
My old boss used to say "Only worry about that which you can do something about", and he was dead right. Like many others I'm not sure any team can ever be in a false position - your position is determined by the points you win, so if we have the points we are in the right place. If you mean "I wonder if we will end up so high at the end of the season", then that's a different question. But why worry about that? If we do, great. If we don't, it's only what most sane pundits would expect at this stage of our development. Why not just enjoy what we have and live a little?:o)
08/10/2007 16:38:00
Membership of the KNOB SQUAD is at a discount now - things are on the up. BE HAPPY!
09/10/2007 00:29:00
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