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Date:Wednesday September 26 2007
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Unceremoniously Dumped Out Of Cup
Vital Villa asked how far can we go in the Carling Cup.
Gutted to say 8% were correct as they predicted we'd not get through the 3rd round tie v Leicester City.
The other results are basically irrelevant as our main route to Europe got blocked tonight despite decent stats Villa failed to put the ball in the net.
Villa did have the lions share of possession (65%) 15 corners and 7 attempts on target but the only stat that counts is the Foxes converted 1 of their 3 shots on target into a goal.
Villa, unceremoniously, have been dumped out of the Carling Cup.
Our latest poll asks what is to blame for the exit.
Roll on Monday night when we hopefully get back into gear away to Spurs.
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Just got back from VP and am gutted. Dreadful. I think we missed Carew. I hope he gets fit soon because without him holding the ball up we looked clueless.
Adam Deuce
My gal got in from the game in a bit of a mood (lol). What she says is that you have no quality strikers. Ones for the future maybe, but top Prem strikers that can do it now - 15 goals a season - no way. That includes Carew. He will get you 8 or 9 Prem goals if lucky. You will need to spend big in Jan if you can attract anyone decent. Am I right or am I correct?
Aston Smithy
ps Do you want Vassell back? He really has come on in leaps and bounds. Ahem. Honest....
Aston Smithy
Bad night for everyone. I was surprised that O'Neill didn't field his strongest side; he knew they would be difficult to break down. I would have played Moore and Young from the start, resting them only when the result looked secure.
villacross
Petrov and Coker, pack your bags. If you cant stand up to that then jog on. Bar Maloney and Mellberg every player on that pitch were completely useless, no guts, no balls, no ideas, no energy. Scared of going forward, scared of tackles PATHETIC !!!! The worst collective performance I have seen since O'Leary's tenure. No one wanted it and it aint good enough. Oneill deserves some blame for playing what looked like a strange set up, was it 3-5-2 attacking or 4-3-3 atacking? I dont think the players knew. why change something that aint broken !!!!!!
Stig
Smithy you are correct but taking away your result against us the other Sunday you would be on exactly the same points, scored the same goals and conceded the same number of goals... I think you should be looking at your own team first if you think ours needs improving.
Hoss The Villain
Stig... You are so right about the formation. I'll openly admit to being fairly clueless when it comes to tactics etc having never really played beyond school playground level but I can just about work out what formation a team is attempting to play in. Last night I was scratching my head to figure out who was playing what and where. It looked like the players didn't know either. Did anyone hear Curtis Davies on Radio One News this morning admitting to being "Rubbish" and "playing like a pub team plasyer". At least he has the balls to admit it. No consolation to the 25.5K ppl at VP last night.
Adam Deuce
May not actually be a bad thing in the long-run? Although it was a potential route into Europe (which I guess is the big downside), a cup run would have undoubtedly stretched our think squad. You can't really blame MON for putting out a slightly changed team - you would think with the people that came in they should still have been pushing as hard as they could to make an impression, and they should still have had enough quality to beat Leicester. Have to place the blame for this one firmly at the feet of the players....a very very bad day at the office.....
YatesyVillain
Hoss, Hoss. Relax. Reeelax. I am sure Frank and Sven are looking at our first team. Plenty to get rid and plenty to come in. The difference between your circumstances and ours is that the better players will come to City. I have no beef with Villa BUT will the better players come to VP in the next 12 months? Or is Harewood and Knight the benchmark? Just askin' like...
Aston Smithy
I dont blame MON for putting out the team he did, far from it. He gave opportunities to current 'fringe' players to prove their worth, they let him and themselves down by failing to take the opportunity. We had on the pitch last night a decent enough set of players to see off a struggling Championship side, but we simply weren't up to the task. I more than half expected the result, but I certainly didn't expect the shambles of a performance. That to me was a bigger concern and worry than was the actual result.
glensider
Clueless..I blagged the wife into going down with me, most of the others ( 8 of us in total) stayed at home.Wish I had.The fringe players had their chance.So they can keep it shut when they don't get a game!Players with credit are Maloney, Mellberg,Barry, Gabby and Osbourne...although he was a little hesitatant with his passing.Marlon has the touch of an elephant, Reo Coker played some terrible passes, Taylor had 1 save to make and they scored!!.
Worst of all....Petrov pack your bags.We might as well have played with 10 men last night.He is a disgrace to the club, himself and the profession.Monday can't come quick enough so they redeeem them selves.UTV
OneloveVilla
Aston Smithy- fair point you make about being able to attract the stars. Our problem is that despite now having the funds we're no longer the "glamour club" as we were 20-30 years ago after winning the league and the European Cup in successive years. Thanks to Ellis for that, by not investing and consolidating when he had the opportunity. But can't turn the clock back obviously but give the present regime a few years, and we'll be back at the top again, you see. Have City ever been a glamour club? If so, when? I can't remember when they last won anything, except when they beat the "Deaf and Dumbs" in '56
villacross
Glensider- I agree that the manager has to try the fringe players for various reasons but imo certainly not when it was such an important game, whoever the opposition. Try the fringe players when you know you should get beat ie away at Man U or Arsenal eh? Both Shankly and Cloughie did this on occasions with some quite startling results.
villacross
Interesting point villacross.
How do teams like Bolton attract and keep the likes of Campo, Anelka, Boro several Villa players and plenty of others, Portsmouth Sunderland and so on.
I don't see the problem attracting the better quality or certainly better than we have
I see it as an unwillingness of the management to do so, which is different altogether
avfc48
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