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O'Neill v Sven/Allardyce/Curbs

Up until quite recently I was prepared to give Martin O'Neill at least a couple of seasons to prove himself at Villa. The man had a plan and it seemed childish to cut his legs off before seeing how that plan developed, but recent events have I believe have moved the goal posts. Direct comparisons with our nearest rivals are inevitable and none more so than with Sven-Goran Eriksson.

The Swede's extraordinary spending spree since he became manager sort of makes O'Neill's 5-yr plan seem a little idealistic to put it mildly. The speed of Eriksson's transformation at City has been breathtaking - and this from a man who seemed to lack any imagination or audacity whilst in charge of England. This stands in direct contrast to Martin's let us say, more leisurely, measured pace. In fact MON has shown all the urgency of a glacier. Both men have put their ass on the line this season for the opposite of reasons - one manager has spent a fortune, the other has refused to spend one. Martin O'Neill's reluctance not to get involved in a bidding war is one thing, but his apparent reluctance to get involved in any sort of confrontation with another club frankly smacks of timidly.

Apparently Sven hadn't even seen some of his signings play before they turned up in Manchester, on the face of it his recruitment-by-video policy looks suicidal - how does he expect them to play as a team so quickly? to acclimatise to the Premier League? to communicate with each other? Maybe he is playing the percentages, out of the nine or ten signings he's made maybe he'll get a couple of great players, three or four reasonable ones and this will be enough to make City into a decent side. From what we saw on Saturday against Wham he may well have more than a couple of great players, I didn't see a single dud. It might all go pear-shaped for him as the season progresses (here's hoping!) but imagine if it doesn't.

Just imagine if Man City has a great season and finish above Villa next May. Eriksson will have effectively turned around a club and put together a whole new team in a matter of weeks. The consequences for MON will be clear. O'Neill's precious 5-yr plan will be rendered meaningless if Eriksson can propel City into Europe this season. And if he achieves this at the expense of Aston Villa, well, this must surely mean Martin O'Neill's resignation or sacking.

Of course we will be able to make comparisons with others such as Sam Alladyce (Newcastle) and Alan Curbishley (West Ham), both of whom have been in their jobs for shorter periods than Martin. No excuses now of time or money or opportunity. No excuses of any kind. Never before in his managerial career will MON have been subject to this kind of intense direct head-to-head competition. I'm afraid in my opinion he has already committed one sackable offence in going into the new season without an adequate defence - even if he buys a couple of players this week it takes time and preparation for defenders and goalkeeper to start working as an effective unit, by the time this happens it may already be too late, we'll be chasing the pack and losing confidence (which according to MON we have lost already).

It's certainly going to be an exciting and very revealing season. A make or break season for a number of managers - and sorry Mart, your 5-yr plan will count for nothing if Svennis kicks your butt - you only have nine months and the countdown has already started.

By Saurat

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Date:Monday August 13 2007

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Sorry, forgot to change the writer part, this was posted by Saurat in the forum. Makes for an interesting read I think!
The Fear
It's started - the "sack O'Neill" protestations. For Christ's sake Martin please put an end to all this. After 25 years under Ellis I'd hoped for more harmony and the Club would have 99% of the fans onside. We're all totally confused and I'm afraid you're starting to lose us. You're an educated man, surely you can understand the fans concerns. Please don't let us down - be positive, think big and if necessary spend big - we'll all be with you if you go for it!
This article is ridiculous. How can you judge what Sven has achieved after just one game? We played a Liverpool side who have spent millions of pounds adding to already an world class squad. A Liverpool side who were Champions League finalists last season. Man City played against a disjointed and disorganised West Ham still recovering from a relegation scrap and the Tevez saga. Yes Sven's team were an improvement on Pearce's shambles last year, but that isn't exactly difficult. And after seeing the results of these two matches, the first game of the season, you have already started to slate O'Neill. I know he hasn't spent as freely (or as recklessly) as Sven, but wait until the transfer window is closed and then judge both sides after 38 games. Wait and see how Geovanni and Elano fancy playing in the snow up at Boro and Sunderland in January after no Christmas break. I hope MON doesn't read what some people say on these forums because I am embarrassed at how fickle some Villa fans can be.
Well said rooneyo. I know everyone is entiled to there opinion and all that, but shocking, just shocking article. I know, lets be done with it and sack him now. Its much better to be a club thats just sacks there managers willy nilly. Joke. Sauret, did you boo at half time on Saturday by any chance? You reackon Villa got a chance of winning the next world cup? You think Luke Moore is as good as Rooney?
el_rooneyo, I'm glad there's still a bit of sense left on this website. 1 game. That's all that's been played, 1 game. Sunderland have beaten spurs, does that mean that spurs have no chance of europe, and sunderland are certs for a uefa spot? Does ManU's draw mean that they're a mid-table side all of a sudden? Everybody agrees that we need more players, but I for one am certain we don't need more djembas and baros's. Both were big names, both cost us a good few quid, and both of svens men mentioned above could turn out to be the same level, a level where we were, not where we want to be. I'd happily take only 2 more top class signings over 5 mediocre ones.
Two MORE top class? Are you suggesting there have already been top class signings?
Confused is right. I think most of us WANT to like MON and support him but he is making it so difficult for that to happen.
PBAVFC -Sorry pal I'll answer for Saurat. "did you boo at half time on Saturday by any chance? ' NO "You reackon Villa got a chance of winning the next world cup? Silly question. "You think Luke Moore is as good as Rooney? Again silly qyestion, of course he is, but Luke's just a little "bit before his time". But seriously, I studiously read over 90% of the posts on this site and if you seriously believe that Martin O'Neill has served the Club well during this transfer window, I can assure you that you are in a very, very small minority. I think most are very surprised how Martin has "dithered" when other managers seem to have been much more positive and bold. Nevertheless I accept we can't all view the situation in the same way although I'm sure we all hope "he'll come up trumps" and prove us doubters wrong. UP THE VILLA
saurat, what a waste of my time. any avfc48 basher should enjoy this one.
Awful, yes he has made a few bad decisions - and gets paid alot to get it right but at lease give it until the end of Aug before passing judgement. If by the end of August we have a smaller squad than last year then we can pass judgement. If we are not careful we are going to add so much pressure on to MON that he will think is all this critism worth it? Fickle boys. After 1 game you are passing judgement that SGE has got it right, but remember how up in the air Westham were this closed season. I have given up about worrying who we are going to sign, getting behind Villa 100% is the only way to move forward. Then in 4 years time when we have 5/6 England Internationals in their mid-twenties and Man City are on the brink of bankruptcy/relegation, all will then become quite clear.
Let's make no mistake. The only person who has brought any "pressure" on Martin O'Neill is Martin O'Neill.
Both the Man Citeh goals were individual goals (good goals at that) but as Sven has only seen these guys on video Curbs has probably never heard of them. As the season goes on opposition teams will know how to play against them and Svens new style. Also Curbs is not a good manager atall and would of (should of ) been relegated last season anyway. without Tevez they would be. MON wants to build a good team, team spirit, awareness, and togetherness. Agreed he should have got more faces in but he is under a lot of pressure. He has got a Billionaires cheque book and is not used to it after Wycombe, Leicester and even the Celtic budget was nothing to this. I am as impatient as anyone and we looked poor on Saturday. The midfield was all over the place, and we didn't look like scoring until Young went out wide. We have to be patient though and start moaning after 5-6 games. For now get behind the team........
it makes no difference that liverpool are "world class" there's more than 1 thing upsetting fans, lack of activity in the transfer market is the major headache, you can hide behind the opposition "world class" remark has long as you like, we were poor on saturday, simple, it makes no difference who your playing, poor is poor, we keep harping on about transfers but the lack of them is worrying, why have we not been competitive in the market! it leaves us with an uneasy feeling, we can't improve on last season unless we improve the squad I have to say signing carson was another mistake 'why is he here' we now have 3 good keepers, and not a great one amongst them, we only have 4 defenders! we also bought harewood who is not a natural goalscorer, when we already have a player in that mould (carew) a real goal poacher is what we need (owen, keane, a,cole) just to name a few, we also need a midfield general, ever great team as one, things need to be sorted and quick, and before the season started we were sold a completly different story to the one being played out last saturday, world class signings, christ I'll be happy if we start bidding, someone needs to tell MON he's not at Celtic anymore playing the likes of gretna and falkirk he's playing world class teams and he needs to get busy or at the end of this season that'll be another 2 yrs wasted in the life of a Villa fan.
How short our memories are. Back in the sad, mad, bad old days of HDE, I seem to recall everybody comparing our then manager (what was his name again?) with Stuart Pearce (among others). Everyone spent hours on this and every other forum telling us how brilliant Psycho was, and how he had transformed ManC in the short time he had after SuperKev. But where is Psycho now? Did ManC win the Premiership, or even a cup, and go on to European football? Did they hell. Isn't this why we now have the IceMan back in England, because Psycho wasn't as successful over a longer period as people assumed he would be. Why, oh, why won't Villa fans give their own a chance, with full backing, for a decent period of time?
We have been bidding you can be sure of that, but the players want to join other teams - accep it
I'm always getting told by pals what a bunch of moaners Villa supporters are and have spent years defending with the "if you had Doug Ellis as Chairman.......etc" speech. What I've read on this site in recent weeks leaves me in no doubt, the moaners appear to be in the majority and it seems like avfc48 disease spreads faster than foot in the mouth. Oh, and forget the "we're all entitled to an opinion" mularkey because most of this nonsense is based on one great big unrealitic expectation. That Randy and MON could reverse 20 years of decay in 12 months. They can't. Get real guys, the best players don't want us join, regardless of how much money we offer for them and to them. We all love the club but deal with the reality, Deadly made us irrelevant to the rest of the football world. Somebody is going to have be given the time to rebuild and it's going take a lot longer than 12 months. One final thought, if Randy & MON hadn't arrived when they did, do you really think we' still be in the Premiership? They deserve a bit of respect and a little patience.
Villacross, I think MON could have done a hell of a lot better in the transfer window, I never once stated that. My annoyance is with the amount of negative, moaning Villa fans who are living in cloud cuckoo land. To be even talking about sacking MON, is just ridiculous.
Dont be fooled by one result from Man City and Sven or any other teams for that matter........stick with it stop panicking and moaning MON, Randy and the General will sort it out.....Aston Villa are moving in the right direction.......Keep theFaith
I think we are having a bit of extremism on either side. I can understand both arguments to an extent but if I can talk of Saurats column (and please feel free to add comments to this) I would firstly say that Sven watching DVDs of the players has to be a crock of **** and I dont believe it for a second. He has a team of scouts, coaches and advisors accross Europe - he has also had ages off work and in a mainly PT job with England to watch world football. He knows what his signings are capable of and what they add to the team. The Villa connection here is that MON complains of over-priced players - he buys English - the managers who buy foreign say its due to over-priced Englishmen - its a common complaint. Therefore MON complaining of overpricing players is something we all know and he needs to balance the risk - is it worth spendign another 10% on an englishman who may settle quicker??!! Furthermore, the only players we are linked with are English based (bar one or two from FC Porto) therefore they will cost a little more!! This brings me to my main complaint with the transfer window so far for us - what have our scouts been doing?? Last I heard Storey-Moore was looking far and wide for players!!! Our only foreigner we got was a young American (obviously from US links at club). Where are these scouted gems??? I am sure Harewood would do a job for us but I would have been happier to see us buy a striker I had never heard of who MON has said has came highly recommended by his scouting team. At its simplisit - our opponents know what Harewood and Reo-Coker can do - do they know what Bianchi and De Ridder can do????
PBAVFC - In my opinion no true Villa fan enjoys having to criticiise either manager or players but at the end of the day fans will tell it how they see it and what we've seen this last few months we don't like. We had a number of problems last season and in my opinion O'Neill achieved as much as any of us could have expected of him. It is possible that with a full squad from which to ring the changes, injuries or not, we may have got those few elusive points that might have put us well into the top-half of the table. Last year we got used to him talking to us "straight from the shoulder", which was very refreshing whem compared to his predecessor. But before the season end he said time and time again that his main target was to build a bigger squad that could withstand the ravages of the Premiership and also to compete for European competition. The CEO, Richard Fitzgerald also categorically stated that Randy Lerner fully supported O'Neill's ambitious plans and big name signings would be made. So in the cold light of day, where are we now with 17 days left? Eleven players gone and only two in; not a "big name" in sight. and a net spend of less than 5mill. Do you still think it is unreasonable for fans to express their concern? Or should we all wait for the inevitable to happen and have to endure another frustrating season which could easily have been avoided with a bolder, more positive and ambitious transfer activities.
One game people
Ridiculous article. Someone is judged on transfer window activity not a season? We "move the goalposts" on a five year plan because it suits us? MON and the new board have been HONEST and REALISTIC in giving us long-term goals, yet you choose to judge them on transfer activity three weeks before the window is closed, and on-field performance after ONE GAME!!! Maybe O'Leary was an idiot, but I'm starting to think that he was right with the "fickle" comment. I stood at the back of the stadium in Rotterdam in 1982 - not since those days can I honestly say that this club has been in a better situation on and off the field. I trust that all you miserable moaners will eat your words in one way or another..... either MON shoves it back in your face with performances, or he walks and takes yet another club to the top....... some of you deserve the latter - go support Walsall....
Well said gmvillian. I cannot understand this site from the articles posted and the comments you would think this is an anti-villa site. People need to be careful what they wish for.
Crazy article....there has only been 1 GAME!!!!!!! I can undrstand peoples fustration over the transfer window but come on, this is just getting ridiculous. I hope all the doubters will eat their words come the end of the season.
ITS ONE GAME against a real title contender. SO GET A GRIP. This all stems from the lack transfers. But lets just smell the coffee for a minute and stop lookin thriugh rose tinted specs. We have been consistently in the bottom halve of the table for a number of years. Of which some of those have been fighting relegation. This all takes a toll on the stock value of a football club. So if you think that Villa are going to be able to attract star players then you are deluded. We have a slick marketing machine and a great manager so let them do there job. Be patient it will all work out in the end. Villa will be great again but not this year and maybe not next. So all this sack the manager nonesense is totally beyond belief.
at the end of the day I don't give 2 ****s about it being one game, we should have been ready well before that ,and we weren't, players not bought, players sold without backup, get yer heads out of MON's arse and see whats going on.*****all!
el_rooneyo, I don't think for a minute Saurat is saying judge after one game, if you read it, he is saying judge them all at the end of the season and suggesting we have some clear comparisons for the quality of manager, size of club, amount of money spent/available to spend. That is my reading of the article anyway.
The Fear
Tarzan, MON has said that no target has turned Villa down.
The Fear
Reading through the article comments, I'd just say, read the article again. What Saurat is saying is the pressure is on (isn't that the case with all managers?) and that there are some other clubs around us with similar money, similar managers etc, so MON has a lot to prove. I can't understand dannygav's comments above. Everyone on here and other sites have a right to their opinions, maybe only some feel strongly enough to submit articles about it. Just because some might love the manager, hate the manager, or have no opinion on the manager, doesn't make them anti-Villa in any way shape of form. The idea of all the footie sites is to argue the toss and talk about football, when the results are good the comments are more positive, when big signings are made the comments are excited, but on the flipside, when things aren't so good (and the transfer window has been a shambles, with money to spend it is outrageous not to have brought in a right-back and gk for the first game of the season) then comments are going to be more negative.
The Fear
Mr_North_Stand, you are spot on, I hope the doubters eat their words at the end of the season and I can 100% guarantee that the doubters hope exactly the same thing. I can't wait to see how the season goes, can't wait to see how 20 men (one on loan) are able to cope throughout the season and really look forward to the games against the likes of Fulham who should be mid to lower in the table. It is those games we need to win to progress, the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd, Arse and Chelsea are in a different league at the moment.
The Fear
Fear you are living in fantasy land. What about Bellamy, Nugent, Baines, Jagielka, Gordon, Parker, Geremi, Sniejder! & Drenthe!??.....I reckon we would have been in for ALL those characters but they indicated straight away wanted to join other teams, so MON didn't approach them - we would have been turned down if we had. You can't attract much wihout the carrot of Euopean football unless you smash the wage structure. Our fans find it hard to accept that Baines, Jagielka and Gordon chose other teams over us. I'm afraid that's reality boys. Teams like Everton, Bolton and Spurs are better than us at the moment. It's going to be a slow building process with some hiccups along the way, but us fans must really get behind he team and manager.
I respect the fact that everyone is entitled to an opinion, and it makes for healthy debate. In my opinion, the parts of this article that I personally disagreed with are: "The speed of Eriksson's transformation at City has been breathtaking..." Which I think is very premature. Then, in light of this comment, the paragraph comparing MON to Sven: "Just imagine if Man City has a great season and finish above Villa next May. Eriksson will have effectively turned around a club and put together a whole new team in a matter of weeks. The consequences for MON will be clear. O'Neill's precious 5-yr plan will be rendered meaningless if Eriksson can propel City into Europe this season. And if he achieves this at the expense of Aston Villa, well, this must surely mean Martin O'Neill's resignation or sacking." Is all conjecture based on the presumption that Sven will miraculously transform Man City, which was formed after just one game. I think it is harsh to even suggest sacking MON at the moment, especially when comparing his performance with a hypothetical best case scenario for Man City. Remember when MON had first taken charge at Villa, we were the last team in the league to be defeated and were riding high. Things change very quickly in football. I am also dissapointed with the lack of new faces and I too think the squad is far too small. However, the transfer market is a complicated business. I just wish some of our fans would get behind MON rather than complaining and making this kind of direct comparisons with another managers who is yet to achieve anything anyway.
Just for a change, I assume everyone has seen Konchesky's comments about Curbishley? (if not, see Of course it is likely that Konchesky and Curbs did not see eye to eye and that's why he's left, but it is interesting to note that although Saurat seems to suggest that Curbs will be one to put pressure on MON, he will be under a LOT of pressure himself, as will Sven. Can you imagine what a bad run of results will mean to ANY of them - and especially those who have invested so heavily in the transfer market?
even though im not happy with the way oneils left it so late i would choose his style of approach than svens anyday! sven has gone out and splashed the cash on buying a team of good players. oneil has taken his time to find the right players which will result in a good team, one of which all the players bond and play for each other not just themselves. i mean look at the comments made by laursen and mellberg today thats the way i want the whole team to be where everyone knows everyone elses game. i also heard that the players that have left like davis, ridgewell and hughes left because they were loaners, even though they did there job good they wouldnt talk to the other players or have a laugh with them they just did it for themselves!
wellsaid el_rooneyo i am kind of getting sick of reading all this total ngativity and nonesense from Villa fans, They must be the most negative fans in the premiership without question. If they put as much effort into supporting our great club and manager as do slating them and him then VP would be a wall of noise week in wee out. Can all you doughters imagine what Randy Lerner must think when or if he reads this garbage. Take Petrov for example hes damed if does damed if he dont, and as for Harewood hes the biggest donkey in football according to the doughters. Its n absolute joke what is said on he by so called villa fans.
Here we go again. Someone points out the truth, someone who often gets the goat at me for my views on O'Neill and out come the negativity pushers. Suarat isn't calling for O'Neill's head, he's not saying we will be relegated, he's not suggesting its the worst side since Turner took us down. No he's putting over a calm sensible argument and just look at the response. We might be fickle, we might be moaners but in amongst us there are some real pratts.
Mr Fear, I am just saying that we should cast our minds back 18 Months or so when O'Leary and Ellis were at Villa. The situation now, i think all will agree (apart from avfc48 aka Malcom) that the situation now is better by a vast margin. I simply cannot understand why everyone as reacted in such a knee jerk reaction to the lack of signings when the window has not even closed yet. I also agree, of cause, that everyone can freely air their opinions but lets face it, what do we know about managing a club compared to O' Neill, we are only fans and howevermuch 'inside info' we think we have, we have no idea what O' Neills plans are. I also find it amusing that the people who are now moaning are the same people who thought we would win the CL within a couple of years. And yes I do feel that this site is the most negative of them all. But hey, as you said everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Tarzan, you are very right, I do live in fantasy land, very nice it is too being shaked up with Hannah from Sclub 7 fame and every time she pops out, Rachel Stevens pops in. However it isn't me living in fantasy land mate, MON said he'd not been turned down by any targets not me. I don't know who they've gone for if anyone or where the negotiations are at. For the record I don't think for a moment he went for Bellend, in fact I think I know they didn't! If we went for all of the players you list and they all refused, then I'm feeling worse about the situation than I thought, but I don't believe that to be the case!
The Fear
Mr Fear? You know my dad as well then! lol. Totally agree, we are a million miles away from the ellis days in my opinion, I know some don't care and think a lot of it is cosmetic but for me nothing could be further from the truth. I just think the transfer window has been appaulingly handled by the manager this summer and worry that he has lived up to what the Celtic fans (and some Norwich fans) said we should expect. Not calling for his head by the way, he deserves at least this season (and I still have the feeling no one would have to tell MON to walk if things didn't work out, he seems to have a lot of integrity and is very self aware - came over at the tom ross forum as very humble). I didn't read into this article what some have though, I don't think it was overly negative, just saying that the pressure is on and there are a few similar clubs to be judged alongside. Bring it on, lets hope we are above them all at the end of the season. I also think that avfc48 is fully aware and happy about the changes, just he doesn't rank MON as his favourite, but he isn't saying sack him either! I agree also we don't know what his plans are but you would expect those plans to include a right-back before the season got under way surely!?!?
The Fear
Danny, there is so much positive stuff as well, promote as much as I can, but if people want to submit articles, as long as they are of good enough quality, I'll publish them. There is one in my inbox that I don't want to publish as it is truly negative but I'll have to think on that one! If others want to submit a positive I'd be very happy to put it up, I am not pesemistic about the future, I think we have an outstanding board, a gent of an owner and a lot of money behind us. Although I got digs for talking about the Holte, I do think things like that are important and great. I've read the other sites in the last few weeks to see what others are saying, can't say they are a bundle of joy about the lack of signings either and I'd not expect them to be. As you say, we are all entitled to our opinions, long may they continue and for the sake of all of us, lets hope they all become happier and happier! lol
The Fear
Phew - what great contributions (mine excluded). , representing all shades of opinions. The fact thaty we can all have our say, without censorship (excepting of course malice or vulgarity) is a temendous asset and is undoubtedly the best Aston Villa communications forum around. In my opinion The Fear has got the balance absolutely spot-on.
agreed villacross, great contributions. But to accuse people of being anti-Villa just because they voice their concerns is ridiculous, why would people waste their time to come on here if Aston Villa F.C. didn't mean something to them, I've said this before, this site is as popular as it is because of all the different views, don't change that, or it becomes a very boring world, it almost becomes a bit 'chairman mao' WE MUST ALL CARRY A COPY OF MON's LITTLE CLARET & BLUE BOOK! if there are people who think MON could have done better, that's fine ( I'm one, even though I like the guy and the board) if there are people who think he's doing a great job, that's fine to, it's YOUR opinion, what's not right is to have a go at someone when they disagree with you, I've also never seen anyone come on this site and have a go at someone who thinks MON's doing a great job, but I've seen plenty of negative comments aimed at people who voice their concerns about MON, and that's wrong, if you pay towards our great club ( and that could be season tickets, buying shirts etc, tattoo's) whatever it is, you have every right to say what you think!
I find it strange that lots of you post on here but never on the club forums why is that? We get some good debates going and it's all free you know lads!
I have to say that despite his failings (?) this summer to bring in the much needed, and indeed promised signings, MON still has my full and complete support. There is nobody else out there, currently employed or temporarily sidelined, that I'd rather have in charge of our club. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but it saddens me to read and hear from so many disillusioned Villans, a mere twelve months or so in to Martins reign, that they question his ability and/or judgement, or even want him out. Weren't we all in August 2006 all united in agreement to give the new manager all the time he needed to turn the sinking ship around, yet here we are now, twelve months on, and some of us cant wait to taste blood. Its typical Villa, it really is. Supporters of other clubs may be the same, I dont know, I dont care. But this is very definitely a Villa Park trait amongst supporters, a trait that has run through the club for many years, certainly ever since I started attending Villa Park back in the very early sixties. Martin is not a fool, far from it, and he himself has previously indicated that should he ever feel or decide that he's not up to the task, then no one would have to tell him, he'd simply walk. But come on fellow Villans. He is up to the task, he is the right man. He knows full well what he's doing, where he's going, and what he needs to do to achieve his goals for the club. For Christs sake lets get off his back, lets stop this 'campaign' while its still a mere whisper, and lets get behind MON and the team. We at long last have a top notch owner and a real quality board, all fully behind MON, and ready to back him in every way possible as he sets about building a new Aston Villa Football Club. Its only us, the so called supporters, who aren't pulling together and in the right direction. Come on You Lions! See you all at St James Park!!
Fear, fair enough. I am certainly not saying that if people are not happy then they should not voice there opinion, I do however think there is a great deal of jumping on the bang wagon and headless chick style rants from some. thats what annoyes me, Its on the same level as the my club is better than your club 'debates' that appear to kick off between spurs and celtic from time to time. Hear what you are say re the articles, you can only post what is submitted. I am more to blame on the basis that I have never submitted an article. I will compose and forward a positive masterpiece that I am sure you will post if it is up to scratch.
a positive masterpiece, I look forward to that! Believe me dannygav, I'm delighted with what is going on off the pitch, just think MON could/should have been doing more!
The Fear
Villan57 - we like it here better - it's more interesting.
glensider - I understand your concern. None of us "doubters" get any satisfaction from this tirade of criticism. I was and still am a supporter of MON, not just because I like his honesty and humility but because he has an exceptional track record both as a player and a manager. I very much welcomed his arrival last year and I, like most other supporters marvelled at the motivational effect he had on the squad last season. We all applauded the January signings of Carew, Young and Maloney and the way he dug us out from the mid-season crisis brouught about by the deficiency in squad numbers from last November /December. But there it ends his performance in player dealings since May have, in my opinion been nothing short of disastrous and I shouldn't have to explain why that is my opinion. Where we go from here is out of everyone's hands. If he manages to attract the quality signings he has persistently promissed and now again confirmed on AVFC website, he truly is a messiah, and I will be the first to state that I will never doubt him again. If, on the other hand, he fails to deliver on his commitment, as an honourable man, I ultimately expect he will retire from football after adnmitting the fundamental flaw in his strategy these past few months. ill resign, as he said

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Stats: Aston Villa v Man U (Saturday December 20 2014)

Lambert - Duo Going Nowhere In January (Saturday December 20 2014)

Something For The Weekend (476) (Friday December 19 2014)

Clark Talks Manchester United & Okore (Friday December 19 2014)

Lambert's Big Manchester United Belief (Friday December 19 2014)

Villa Injury News Pre Manchester United (Friday December 19 2014)

Cissokho Relishing Manchester United (Friday December 19 2014)

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Team P W D L GD Pts
9. Newcastle 16 6 5 5 -4 23
10. Everton 17 5 6 6 0 21
11. Liverpool 16 6 3 7 -3 21
12. Aston Villa 17 5 5 7 -10 20
13. Stoke 16 5 4 7 -3 19
14. WBA 17 4 5 8 -6 17
15. Q.P.R. 17 5 2 10 -12 17

Breaking League News

Pardew In Confident Mood
Sunderland : 21/12/2014 08:04:00
Kevin Phillips Backs Sunderland For A Win.
Sunderland : 21/12/2014 07:48:00
Newcastle vs Sunderland... Draw Likely?
Sunderland : 21/12/2014 07:13:00
Harry Hails Hatrick Hero
Q.P.R. : 20/12/2014 23:12:00
Swansea : 20/12/2014 21:40:00

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Delph 4%
Sanchez 25%
Weimann 0%
Agbonlahor 1%
Benteke 10%
Sub - Bacuna 0%
Sub - N'Zogbia 0%