Who Will Villa Sign? - Part 9!

As I have said and got slated, I think its very disappointing, I dont see any one coming in before the Liverpool game and that is wrong. There is no way we should be in this position. MON has made a big mistake in not sorting this out.

well I don't like to say, but I feel quite smug, I did say things weren't going to plan 8 weeks ago, but was hounded by the 'let MON sort it out brigade' and 'he knows what he's doing brigade' gotta say I think he's dropped a b4ll4ck, and your right christo harewood was never on our radar, making one signing with 3 days till kick-off, very poor indeed could do better!

lol lets sign danny mills - at least he is a right back!

None of us have a clue and listening to MON`s comments over the last 2 days neither has he.....mmmm.....i don`t feel smug but still disilussioned.

Nothing on their OS?

lol remeber talk sport saying we would sign someone yesterday and we didn't

Stating on SSN that he has agreed personal terms with Sunderland. This whole thing doesn't make sense. He was supposedly heading to B6 today for talks. If the club are talks with him I think they should have confirmed this to the media.

I apologise for the language The Fear but I'm irrate at the moment

He`s signed for Sunderland - save your faith.

give me links and ***** and then i will believe - i wont follow some 2 bit radio call in show

Roy Keane my guess

It wasn't reported on Five Live, maybe there is still hope.

Gordon has signed for relegated Sunderland, because we would not pay silly money for an unproven keeper. MON is class and will not be held to ransom as have sunderland. Little 77 I might owe you a tenner. However its not over yet.

Morky, we agreed a fee so must have wanted him and offered the same as Sunderland.

States on BBC site that deal is expected to be completed tomorrow and he didn't even come down for the talks. We got shunned by him, it gets worse.

I can't believe this. All the hype. The mass hysteria. It was all 5hite. Same old Villa. I was going to get myself a season ticket at the end of August. I'm so glad I've waited. We're going to be dire. You wait. We'll have 3 or 4 injuries, and it'll be back to playing the same old BORING long balls blah blah blah. - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I really hope I'm eating humble pie later on this month - - - but based on the evidence of this summer (Harewood?!) and last Christmas (Defender Please?) I can't see it being the case.

We seem clueless,Jesus it`s shambolic?

lets round off a fine transfer window. Mido anf Ghaly any one?

This is pathetic - our RB playing tonight v Walsall who is on trial from Le Havre was rejected by Ipswich a few weeks ago. Unbelievable!!! The club sold record season tickets and I am sure thousands of fans think they have been falsely sold them.

MON has not got the bottle for the transfer market. Our handerling of this is a disgrace simple, how the hell have we got into this. Where is Randy he should be kicking MON arse. If things dont go right Saturday do you think there will still be shouts of "Martin give us a wave"?

yet we turn inter over 3 - 0. im seriously confused

Ok pking fine, but if MON doesnt fancy Tommy then where are all the other keepers?? MON has got it wrong simple as

Gordon probablhy didnt speak to him because we didnt get as far as agreeing terms. All it would have taken was a phone call to his agent tonight: 'Look I know the Sunderland deal looks good but we will better it, dont sign anything, just come down and have a chat, see the ground tomorrow and watch the game v Walsall tonight' SIMPLE!!

I think MoN has so far undeniabley done a great job with the players we have,but the way he has handled this window means we are a couple of bad results away from a crisis.How long will it take for the crowds to get restless?

I never thought I would be thinking ' thank God we have at least got Harewood' PATHETIC!!!

Will people stop telling me we did not bid for Gordon, we should have!! I am as upset that we were not in for him FFS

One or two months ago and we were talking of Sneijder, Wright-Phillips, Jaaskelinan, Gordon, Drenthe, Defoe, Smith and who have we got?????

Yep Deano, scottish reporter on talk sport, spoke to Gordon 3 times today. He was expecting to travel to villa today. His club said there are no other offers to match Sunderland so do it. He hung around for 3 days waiting for villa to up the anti.

We didn't talk to Gordon, by vibes I mean talking to other people about the club, board and players

Morky that doesnt sound too bad - he hasnt signed yet - MON is managing the team - if he checks his messages after the game he can always go higher and see Gordon first thing. Its at this stage MON stepped in and took Harewood......PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!! Plenty of others have turned down Sunderland at the last minute!!

It gets better - we couldnt beat Walsall and Harewood cant score!!

Nothing on SKY sports - Maybe - just maybe

ASPINALL - grow up. All I said was MON hasn't said he's in for Gordon - the media has - just as they said we were in for SWP and Defoe - Both of which MON denied - so don't spit the dummy if someone questions these links.

Morky please wake up, this summer has beena complete disaster, MON has made some big mistakes. Yes he is a good manager(I think) but we are in big trouble and if you can not see this you are in big trouble

Gone - ***** - we are in a fine situation now.

myleftfoot - so who are we after in your opinion,get your head out of the sand or even better can you tell me the MON plan on getting a RB and keeper? Even better,can you phone him.

pkong, as a Villa fan I have every right to question the managers lack of judgement, I will still be going to Villa long after MON has packed his bags, this is not MON F.C. He needs to explain himself and quick, not just about Gordon but about all his dealings this summer

Calm down people we are 1year into a 5 year plan. see the bigger picture and stop wetting yourself over 1 transfer window. after 30 odd years of malaca ellis, Villa were superb even in the third div without Malaca. THIS IS HEAVEN. Let em get on with it.

Fear do us a favour and tidy the dressing room whilst the lads give Liverpool a spanking on Saturday.

pking what a clever argument, do you think MON is happy yes or no? are you happy? I really want you to answer that please answer.Morkey this is not one transfer its a whole of summer of inactivity and bulls**t from MON and the board

Ha ha I keep supporting the Villa just because hes the manager I dont and neither do yoy, have to agree with everything he does, think for yourself, have an opinion try it it wont hurt(much). He saved us last year agree, man management amazing gets the best out off all his players but seriously mis judged or f***ed up this summer

Pking, I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion. This includes those who are unhappy and those who are willing to let things ride but ultimately I'm sure that come 5:15 on Saturday everyone of us will be supporting the players and wanting a win. Just because people criticise doesn't mean that they are not fans and don't support the players on the pitch. I do believe that if the vast majority of fans were asked about our current situation they would be unhappy because we all know the squad isn't big enough.

Of course Im annoyed about the way he's handled the transfers this summer,no matter what he says starting the season with no right back and a smaller squad was never his intention.But some of us are so quick to crucify him,that is my biggest worry.The window still hasn't closed yet.

Im sorry Little 77 I dont think you need to grow a brain by the way.

That is exactly true Little77

What i can't get my head round is WHY let so many go when nobody seems to be comming? MON must have something up his sleve , had'nt he?

If I'm completely honest I wanted Jaaskelianen anyway (check previous posts to confirm this) but I hate to think that the club look bad and I think this whole episode does that.

We sell low and when we actually do buy ( they`re normally transfer listed or reserves ) we pay top dollar - we`re not smart enough.

Well we still need a GK, 2 x RB and a CB and we've only got two and half days to sign players to play on Saturday. Can't see any coming in before then. So that leaves 3 weeks to get them in. I'm extremely frustrated and worried about our club,

Aye - Danny Mills is FOC

Gordon that is.

i reckon we have a much better 1st 11 now than when MON took over (even without a proper RB). His motivation skills are reaping dividends already in my opinion. This is a long term strategy to get us in the champions league consistently - an awful transfer window is a step back we can all agree. However i can see light at the end of the tunnel, in this dark hour.

good summary ric112. I do hope we get some info from the club though in the coming weeks about what exactly went on, and I hope we learn lessons from it for next time....I do personally think that it shouldn't be the manager organising transfers for one. Tell the Chairman who you want, and let the negotiating happen.

Who will Villa sign you ask? Zero. Honestly I can't see us getting even at least another youth academy signing. Not this transfer window anyway. I thought when MON spent the 10 mil on Young last January that it was just pocket change type of cash and that we would be spending big to capture the big guns. The only signing I can see MON making before the window closes is Danny Mills on a free transfer after being released by Man City. Another player from a team who were ****house last year, but this year will be worthy contenders due to the activity this window (referring to West Ham directly). Either way, overall I am very, very disappointed with this window. And i just can't wait to be proven wrong by MON.

The transfer strategy of letting players go before signing replacements is surely flawed, and I haven't seen it in operation ANYWHERE else. All it means now is teams know we are desperate for players, so what kind of negotiating position does that put us in now??? Go on West Brom....(as we bend over)

O'Neil was on SSN this morning and he said more players will be coming in but not if he has to go into any bidding wars

yep agr with that but it seems mon is scared of other clubs and there money but mind you I admit am scared of Eggert he is so ugly

As I have said on the prevous post, good point eltoro.

I can hear those boos already.

Why has the official site got no details regarding todays villa related paper links. Could it be that they don't want to show any details regarding the Gordon debacle. Still nothing on the official Sunderland site, this I find very strange. If you had just paid a British transfer fee for a GK you would announce it to the world asap. Either their site is worse than ours (is this possible) or is there a problem with the deal ? Said on SSN last night that he had signed as did Niall Quinn, just think its strange no mention of Press Conference or on their OS.

we weren't in the negotiations with gordon, for all we know his contract did have unnaceptable clauses - such as the rumoured "Man U exit" clause - which sunderland were happy to include and we weren't. It isn't what i hoped for, thats for certain.

Gents, get a grip. So we are dissappointed that we missed out on Gordon but if Sunderlands relegation battle is the height of his ambition then were probably better off without him. I hope that this may spark a test of Liverpools resolve with a big bid for Carson. All this talk of bring back Doug is mad. Lets try and keep positive

Well I did say this time next year he will be moaning about wanting to leave because Sunderland might be relegated

Nothing at all on OS? not even pics from last nights draw.Strange.

Whenis our OS being revamped? was on Sunderlands and it looks a lot better than ours.

Skinner you are so right. There's no point wasting all that money on Gordon, he's not worth it - full stop. Most of the people on this thread wouldn't have cared about him a few weeks back. I'm really positive about our new set up, we just have to be patient. Look at how long ot took Everton to sign Baines, agents are just playing off the different clubs to drive up the prices. The Dyer deal is another example of deal that was thought to be done only for Newcastle to demand an extra 2m. I don't blame Newcastle one bit as the market has cahnged since they sold Parker for 7m.

I think we should relax and wait until the end of August, I have confidence in our current squad. I don't think we should spend really big on mediocre players.

tarzan i agree - too much panic and fear on this thread right now

I think Martin would have liked most of his signings before the start of the season but i think he has been held to ransom. He's playing a waiting game so these prices drop towards the end of the window. It's a gamble, but it could prove to be shrewd. He's happy with what we have for the first couple of games but i'd expect a lot of activity soon. He's not an idiot and he knows we need numbers. I think a lot of us, myself included, expected a influx of big stars but that was never going to happen. I'm really excited about this season, we look really good going forward and IF Laursen can stay fit i think we'll be pushing top six! As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day!!!!

MON has already said that he does not think Laursen will be able to play a whole season without getting injured or needing to rest his dodgy knees...? why allow Ridgewell to leave before he has a replacement in first...!

Just thinking back to a number of posts on this topic from the Celtic fans right at the start of the transfer season - I thought they were just being bitter and blowing smoke up our @rses, but now it appears that they had got him sussed out 100% - seems like our MON likes to leave it very very late in his transfer dealings.....

Thats it Villamalta lets just leave it to luck and HOPE that our players don't get injured because we have a new training facility. Chelsea have a new state of the art Training facility but look at the injuries they have. Injuries are all about being lucky and unlucky but its the size of your squad that determines if the injuries damage your season.

Can't see why we wouldn't stump up 9m for Davies, I think they definitely want a lot more than that or a large proportion of the sell on fee? That's the issue here as with the Gordon transfer, it must be, it's all very well paying over the odds but of the price goes down...This could be potentially disasterous as we do have some financial plan to work within. What do people think?

The number of players we had at the start of last season was not good enough as proved the case November/December time. We should be starting this season with a bigger squad that has more quality in it...!

One question to everyone who is bitching out there....would you be happy if by Saturday MON had signed a keeper (hopefully Jussi) and a right back (hopefully Hoyte or Rosenior) and then signed 2/3 other players by the close of the window? I assume most of you will say YES, so lets just wait until Friday evening and see what happens.

How many times have we heard this, of course if that happens we will be delighted but I doubt it will and Friday evening is a little late for the Lpool game. They should have been in playing together, learning our style. 1st it was the begining of the summer, then before pre season training, the launch of the new kit, before america, before the Inter game now its Friday night at 11.59pm. Come on we are now panicking thats why MON is starting to speak on the issue.

I don't know if this has been said before, but do people think that we could possibly have a deal sorted for Scott Carson, but it won't happen until after the Liverpool game?

No one wants him to go bacto Celtic JUesus we dont need to lose anymore players or people will be calling our team Kate Moss or Nicole Ritchie

We could always stick him in goal if needed cos he is a big lad lol

I suggest we wait and see what happens between now and the end of August. Our first team looks to be fine for now. I would dare to suggest (based on what I've seen), the Baggies are wanting 12m for Davies plus sell on/and or appearnces, Bolton 6m for Jussi plus more if we finish above them/significant loyalty bonus (paid by us) and Arsenal 5m for Hoyte or just a loan deal. We go silly and offer twice that or buy unknown quantities.

With MON leaving it so late we are going to find most players he tries to sign are going to be even more money as clubs will know that we are desperate and ask for silly amounts...!

your right alot of managers out there will think were desperate and I think that they will think they have turned into used car salesmen

I'm still reserving judgement on MON's "in-outs" achievements over this transfere window. None of know what has really gone on behind the scenes with players, agents and other club chairman these last few months. Fitzgerald was very naive to "shooting his mouth off", leading us to believe that a number of top-class players were in the bag. MON also was foolish to let players leave until replacements were secured. Whilst players are under contract they are servants of the Club and as professionals whether they want to leave is neither here nor there. MON may still get in the four players we desperately need (GK, RB x 2, and CB); if not he has made a major blunder and should be prepared to admit it publicly.

I'm still reserving judgement too. One quick question villacross assuming O'Neill has made a blunder what is the benefit of him admitting publicly? I'm not certain how that would help anyone?? Other than those who have been eagerly waiting for him to put a foot wrong to say 'I told you so'?? Seriously what would be the point??

Shame on you Villa. You got us all excited.

Gordon deal confirmed on OS for Sunderland.

*sticks tongue in cd player*

Newman-I feel we should stay as we are with Sorenson and Taylor till next year, unless, (most unlikely) that a top international GK wants to come to Villa. Our priorities are in the "back four" plus a top right-side attacking midfield player.

notthedougellis thinks we should sign yakubu even though we dont need another striker, we missed out paying £9M for a KEEPER and everyone seems gutted, I for one am very happy MON,s in charge not some of you lot. We have a good squad just need a few others before the end of the transfer window in 3 WEEKS. I reckon we will see a new keeper and a couple of right backs because MON says thats what he wants by the end of the window, I think we will probably pick up a few extra squad players right up to and at the deadline, so why dont you chill out and wait and see. I reckon Jussi and Davies next in and possibly Hoyte. "Just heard on SSN mon has said he has no cap on his funds available" so it looks like he just needs the right players now, at a sensible price? that want to move to villa park, and can overcome the only other obstacle in that they would be released by their current employers'.

Huntysvilla m8, a few others before the end of the transfer window, soory m8 we need players before saturday, you can trust MON all u want, I say he's *****ed up this time, we all knew we needed players 10 out 2 in, 3 days till kick-off not good mate

eltoro we have a squad for the weekend that can do the biz, I dont trust any manager to get it right and why should MON be any different, the fact is the window closes in 3 weeks time, well long enough to get in a few good team players and a few squaddies that is my point, but I probably will be as ****ed of as you mate if we have to go to january without another 3 or 4 on side, but you have to admit a few on this site really r heading for a trip to the shrink they are that stressed.

Huntysvilla, I know that we are not going to sign Yakubu, just saying that I think he is a very good player and would be a good addition, I recognise that the defence and GK departments are of a more pressing need

Villa in London, totally agree.

Thanks Villa in London. I needed to hear that matey! I feel a bit better now. I'm in London - are there any good Villa pubs down here?

ok eltoro i retract my last comment.

Villacross understand your frustrations but please no witch hunt against Martin

My concern is that the players we have are getting restless. We have already heard the Barry and Cahill stae how surprised they are at the lack of signings. If we don't get the players we need b4 the end of August (and to be honest that is a possibility given MON's lethargy in the market to date) these same players ie Carew will themselves be queing up to leave. It's not good enough to say the window closes in August. No one on this site expected any of this. Villa in London it was quite clearly stated that players would be signed and that we would be excited by the new arrivals. Today MON is saying he is quite happy to go into the first game of the season with the squad he has. What if Taylor and Laursen are injured in the first ten minutes of the match on Saturday?? How much will the replacements be then? Our over 35's squad is bigger than Villa's for heavens sake! No the time has come to ask questions. I have been patient all summer waiting for quality new arrivals. I pay my money and have a right, now, to say MON has let me down as a supporter. The arguement for the 31st of Auguat doesn't stack up. Most teams only use this period if they have picked up injuries or a particularly good player comes onto the market in which case you pay way over the odds. The club is not showing the punters the respect we deserve. I will wait and see what happens between now and the end of the week. I nothing happens then I can truthly say that MON and the board have done a poor job regards the tansfer policy this summer. Sorry for the ramble

Villacross dont assume every one is as miniminded as you not everyone is getting as wound up as you, but back to your point who should be fired then?

I starting to get angry - I'll just go for a cold shower. Who know we may have signed John Burridge when I'm finished

LITTLE77 - I principally blame Fitzgerald for "shooting-off" his mouth like a naive, used car salesman. Obviously knows little about football deailngs and how it is almost impossible to attract top quality players to a non-European competing club, especially north of Watford. I don't personally feel that MON carries any of the blame. He's always tempered our ambitions for European football with caution and patience. I think his strategy is excellent by investing now in top-quality youngsters both from the UK, Europe and the USA. I would be over-the-moon if we can also get Hoyte from Arsenal and coupled to Davies from WBA that would satisfy me for this window. Harewood was obviously a straight replacement for Sutton. Again in my opinion, he's let a few players go too prematurely (eg McCann, Ridgewell, Hughes and Samuel). I accept we need better qualith but why sell until we've got their replacements. They might not be happy staying but they're under contract and the Club comes first not overpaid the players. And surely we're not relying on making economies by releasing them, so why do it so prematurely? Except for these two b****cks, I'm a happy "bunny" and I just hope we thrash Liverpool on Saturday. UP THE VILLA.

OK villacross I accept what you say but may I add that MON has said on a few occassions that Randy has let him deal with the transfers, if this is true and MON is telling the truth, then the only one to blame is MON? I too think certain members of the board have been very silly with some statements, lets hope they learn, quickly. Yes the players we have and the young players are very good, top marks to the academy, but in reality we should not be in this position with no RB etc,etc so close to the start of the season.

We were all over the moon on Saturday with the performance.Ill be happy as long as we get some more quality in b4 Sep 1st.Of course everyone has a right to be *****ed off with the lack of activity but I think were all a bit too negative.On the Celtic site their fans said things about MoN leaving it all summer then loads of activity on the last day.The guy does transfers like this and he'll never change no matter how stupid it is.

HuntysVilla -what does "miniminded" mean? Did you make that up all by yourself? Are you any related to "C***tysVilla? -that famous middle-east "Vital" website?

I couldn't have said it better myself MYLEFTFOOT,

LITTLE 77 - If MON gets the 2 players I mentioned earlier ie Davies (or Hangeland) plus a RB as good as Hoyte by 31st August, MON will get 10 out of 10 in my book, whether he gets another keeper or not. We'll then have a squad of 22, "lean and mean" with no "dead-wood" (the first time for as long as I can remember) - so just watch us shoot up that table. See you at the FA Cup Final next year? - but I hope we've then got a Chief Executive who knows something about the industry that he's working in!

well maybe just a 3rd keep but am sure Taylor will do fine oh wait he is injured aswell

Shaun Maloney could be a Celtic player again tomorrow - well, if a report in the Evening Times is to be believed. Why tomorrow? Because that's when the player registration deadline is for the third-round qualifying stage of the Champions League, and Celtic are desperate to beat Spartak Moscow and reach the Group Stage. Whether Maloney would make a difference is debatable, but that is the reason the Evening Times have given. According to the report, "Celtic have continued to work behind the scenes to make the move happen" and "...the push is on to get everything in place ahead of this crucial signing deadline."

Your right about maloney, cant see MON letting him go, but its heavy in the press

I am of really mixed emotions here - yes we missed out on Gordon but reading his interview he talks about desire to move to the Premiership more than Sunderland in specific. It makes me think that we COULD have had him - maybe MON prefers and has lined up Jussi or Carson, maybe he didnt like a 'big 4' release clause rumoured to be in his contract or maybe he plain didnt want to spend £9m on the guy. I dont know!!! But I sat back and thought ''Why sell Samuel/Hughes/Ridgewell/McCann/Davis unless he has others lined-up''!! I am VERY willing to wait until 31st August but what I do have reservations about is the record season ticket sales. I am not a season ticket holder as I am from N.I. but make it over when I can. I just want to ask the season ticket holders on this forum "Do you feel let down?". Had I lived im Birmingham I would have got a season-ticket too with all the promises made. Now I think that they have not met the fundamental need for fans - a 'team' that can sustain a challenge on the top 6 and good cup runs. (In case this sounds too negative - I love the way the club is run 'behind-the-scenes' etc. etc., in fact my ONLY complaint is the lack of depth in the current squad.) But it is almost as if fans have bought their season tickets expecting a lot more by now. I still trust that players will come but the actions do not match to the words e.g. MON says that he doesnt want to pay too high for players. Based on Davis being sold for £4m as an example - a player who was not first XI for next season and didnt particularly want to stay was in the same situation as NRC and Harewood were with West Ham. Were they worth £8.5m and £4m??? I dont think so. Is Petrov a £8m player, was Young worth £8-9.5m?? I am glad we signed them but why not go that bit extra with others?? Could we have got Drenthe, Sneijder, Davies, Jaaskelinan, Haangeland, Wright-Phillips (a) for a little more money?? (b) Did we even go for them??? I hope the answers are (a) NO and NOT YET BUT WORKING ON IT!!!!! Sorry if this sounds a bit rambing but it is a confusing time!!! Roll on midnight Aug 31st!!

HuntysVilla - Our respective definitions of rudeness seem poles apart; or do you consider referring to a fellow Villa fan as a "pea-brained, low-life gutter snipe" is not rude? If so, I'll accept your apology otherwise goodbye.

I am feeling a little better after getting that off my chest!!! Now I am positive again and this that this is an O'Neill masterstroke Carson on loan then when January comes - if he is enjoying it and doing well make an offer (like Wigan did with Kirkland) if not we get a pre-contract agreement for Jaaskelinan to join when his contract runs out. Perfect!! MON we salute you!! Mackems - you are welcom to Craig Gordon!!! We now have Englands future Number 1!!! Oh my my - time for bed!!!

but seriously, we should start talking bout politics til we sign a player. this is so repetitive. even what i just said has been said so many times...what about this foot and mouth then ay??? anyone effected?

huntysvilla -"myleftfoot, better under ellis then?" - well well theres an original statement. Read what I said and if there is anything that you disagree with let me know. I do think MON is the right man for the job I just don't think he has handled the transfere window very well.

myleftfoot, think i must have interpreted your post wrong "I don't care if Randy has a tattoo - it's our club - we are the guys that are left behind when the *****e hits the fan" I wrongly assumed that you meant that the current regime was possibly only in for the short term, and that as villa fans we have had it better in the past. Three weeks to go before we judge this transfer window, lets keep the jury out until then, cheers M8.

found a very recent quote from MON; make up yr own minds: "On one occassion I thought a fee had changed to a rather exorbitant amount, so i gave up. Then in recent times the club involved had another think about it and suddenly its something we can look at again."

looks like we may have Carson on loan as liverpool look like signing the lens keeper idjante? someone we were linked with. its a complicated game. nice call deano.avfc!

Carson will be a great loan signing but am not sure if he can beat TS and ST for first choice yet

Stop going on about Ridgewell. He plays for Blues. Remember them?

Yea but I dont think he should of got rid of all the no hopefuls until we had a bigger squad though but I can see where he is going by getting rid of them its better then paying wages for guys who wont take us up

I still believe we will pick up the following players by close of the transfer window.....Jussi, Rosenior, Hoyte, Davies, Taylor and 'm going to throw one out there.....Eidur Gudjohnsen! I would be more than happy with that squad! Then let Taylor go and Osbourne on loan. I'm wasted in my job!

Surely, if we don't sign a keeper or RB by close of play today, our starting 11 will be the following for Saturday....Taylor, Gardner, Melberg, Laursen, Bouma, Gabby, Reo, Barry, Pretrov, Young and Carew....Bevan, Cahill, Berger, Maloney, Moore.

I dont think we will sign a right back to be honest

What ever?!

Liverpool have signed another keeper, so Carson is on the way Pity he can't play on Saturday! I'm sure he will be between the sticks on Wednesday though.

next summer we will get Jussi and Wesley on free's

if we end up doing nothing this season CHRISTO, it will be very difficult to get jussi and wesley next summer, as 12 months in football is a long time, if another club get into Europe and they fancy those 2, they will have first shout, leaving us in the **** again

Lens have confirmed that Liverpool have signed their keeper, so as long as he is registered by midnight, Carson is ours. Just need a right back now!

eltoro - it could be that jussi has a verbal agreement with MON to join us next year on a free. Ya never know.

sneijder really would be living the dream

Makes me wanna cry I'd love to see someone like Sneijder in a Villa shirt and thats never gonna happen

The way im looking at it is - if Red scouse dont sign this french keeper by the 11th hour then i think we will bid for Jussi and have im in permantley. either way we are gonna get a keeper - just a RB and a CB to soothe the nerves now.

He wasn't that good from what I heard and we was poor at Ipswich I dont think MON should of gone after him to be honest or people are gonna think what were more desperate then they thought

He was poor at Ipswich I mean

getting Carson on loan 2 days before K.O. smacks of desperation when we've had over 3 months, this has nothing to do with thomas being injured, its a replacement, Thomas will be next out the door he's never going to play second fiddle to a loan keeper

Ok, I have been very critical of MON and his transfer dealings but its Thursday night now and the season starts Saturday so I guess its time to get behind the team and MON. Read the mail, and hope what he says happens. So come on Villa and Martin give us a wave, Martin, Martin give us a wave!!!!

eltoro mate seriously chill out. You're beginning to sound like you're ready to do yourself damage! The window thus far has been disappointing, but i'm glad MON's got rid of the crepe he inherited. Were you there on saturday? We have a well organised team, working for each other and playing nice stuff on the ground. Now for a few more faces before 31 Aug.

notthedougellis yep a farce it is but we are just talking about the same thing instead lets talk about how our forward line are gonna rip Liverpool apart

Were the underdogs and this is the type of story that happens in movies. Now I wonder hmm

Can Carson play right back?

eltoro - calm down - u have made your point, I think. Yes, and it wasn't me either - so get rid of that thought!

We will use Carson and come Jan window get permision to speak to Jussi then we have a pre contract with him(last 6 months of contract) then since pool wont sell Carson we ship him off at end of season bring in jussi.That way we do have an improvement in the GK position just not an ideal situation.Conspiricy time now is Tommy s really injured??????

Bobo Balde from Celtic. You can see it coming.

MILLS - your having me on,...... aren't you?

jesus deano.avfc MILLS please stop i cant take much more, i'm going to end up sectioning myself

Well putting the transfer problems to one side. Time for everyone to put their differences aside and make sure we make some serious noise at VP tomorrow. Lets give the guys from Setanta an atmosphere to remember for their first game. Come on you Villa boys !!

You Can't Sign Anyone Cos West Sham And Pompey Sign Em' All....!

Saw this on an American site, previewing Villa's chances next season. It made me chuckle heartily: "Why they could drift down the table: If the matches where they got draws last season turn to losses and some of the wins turn to draws then Villa could be fighting for their life next spring."

Wesley Sneijder to Real madrid for £20m. Oh well. We might sign him when he can't settle and isn't getting a game every week.

I hope your joking about Wesley

That has broken my heart about Sneijder I would of loved someone like him playing for the club and no that will never happen ughhh I need cheering up.

Now that would be really funny if that happened on sunday

Whats the team for tomorrow then guys? 4-4-2 or 4-3-3? S taylor,Mellberg,Cahill,Laursen,Bouma,Barry,Coker,Petrov,Young,Gabby and Carew. Think i would rather have Mellberg on the right than adapting a Midfielder to fit in.Saying that Gardener seems to be able to run all day and would certainly get forward.

Ive got to say, thats more posts from a bluenose this summer than on there own sight. but tapping slate doesn,t get you too far. Keep dragging the knuckles nobhead!!!!

Has anyone seen Transformers yet? First f&ckin class!!!!

Think Gabby will get the nod over luke, but lets be honest its hardly the most difficult team to choose from!

haddock and chips, how fitting for a knukle dragging tramp on a friday night, suprised he didnt treat himself to a cat burger from big johns.

eltoro. I like it.

if his nose is blue i wonder where he has been sticking it. put Gardner at right back.

Hmmm blue nose?? Maybe he has been sticking it in one of those toilets they have on planes

Wait - scum have signed 10 players this transfer window so far? does steve bruce hot have enough confidence with the squad that brought them up in the 1st place? - cant wait - gabbys gonna *****in run right through them

I now Brucie dont have much confidence in the new owner because he said he will quit if the new owner pics his teams and tells him who to buy

how come

yea might of done looks like Brmingham are gonna be like Hearts in Jokeland

MJy dad wouldn't let me watch it but am glad Spurs lost and am not happy no one scored past Gordon

Great news for you and ive been allowed Setanta

How far has the ref got his dick up the A***'* of Liverpool

Hurts doesn't it. I don't come here to cause trouble but maybe eltoro should wait before coming on Vital Spurs and spouting his rubbish.

To be fair it doesn't hurt quite as bad as being beat by Sunderland,had a nice day have you?

Been a terrible day. Although the injuries did not help us I am not going to use them as an excuse. Jol is a brilliant man manager but not a tactical genius in the mould of Jose, Sir Alex or Arsene. The team selection was a f***ing joke and once Berbatov had been taken off I felt not to continue watching. All credit to Sunderland though, they deserved it. The fact is that we were abysmal today and their defending was top class. Restricting the likes of Berbatov, Defoe, Keane and Bent to no shots was brilliant on Sunderland's part. In all fairness though, Liverpool were the better team.

As were Sunderland

quite right at least we lost to a team that might win the premiership not Republic of Sunderland

*****in Gerrard

CURTIS DAVIES to sign next week from Albion. As usual just have to agree the add ons with deal almost done. I would take Robinson off then aswell as left back cover.

coker and petrov were pants, where were the tackles reo?????????? way to much respect given. also yesterday just highlighted how paper thin our squad is, the gap between us and liverpool, or any of the top 5 is massive in terms of depth, oneill needs to GET PLAYERS IN NOW! a few injuries and we are bang in trouble.

Luke Moore linked with Baggies today. I hope it is bull but I can see it being perhaps a loan for the season as part of the Davies deal. Hope not - he should be first XI. I would go 4-4-2 with it almost a 4-2-4 formation with Young and Gabby on the wings pushing up like Giggs/Ronaldo with two 'sitting' midfielders passing it forward - NRC and Barry. Then little and large up front with Moore and Carew. We looked much better when Young and Gabby went wide but if Petrov is going to be anonymous we might as well use Luke Moore up front!!!

tarzansbrother - how do you know curtis will sign nxt week?

Eltoro, "saying it as it is" is sometimes not the way to go, especially after you make the effort to come to Vital Spurs just after we lost our first game of the season. Just remember, every time I came to Vital Villa and "said it as it was", someone wanted my head on a plate!!!

OneAaronLennon, a few weeks ago you were slagging off the villa on your site from comments made from who you thought was a villa fan but it was a dumb ass from glasgow dont come on here sitting on the fence with the pretence that you want dialogue, your team was crap against sunderland we were not better against the pool, but dont think we give a s**it if "we get on your nerves" who are ya!!!!

Now I am got going to resort to what Eltoro did, as it is something I would expect my 9 year old nephew to do - "Haha, you're team lost", it's idiotic really, two can play at that game. If I wanted to I can come here and p*** you lot off after you just lost, but I am not going to as I know that losing is enough in itself, you don't need someone coming and taking the p***. All I want you to see is that it is pointless really.

welcome back OAL - life was getting a tad boring

Maybe looking into it too much but was intertesting to see Hoyte, Davies and Rosienier all left out of their respective squads at the weekend? Hoyte you can maybe understand but Rosienier and Davies? Saying that, they could both have been injured? Anyone spread any light?

listen OAL, if you're going to spend all pre-season sticking your chest out and preening your feathers, telling everyone your on for 4th place, then you lose to a championship side, you have to take the banter, the difference was I didn't think for one minute we were capable of beating liverpool, so it was no shock that we lost, on the other hand it was a shock that you did (and you lost me £40, on a spurs win single) I also said in that post, that wasn't the spurs side that will finish next season and I still take you to finish top 5, your a very good side, but jesus chill out m8, what I like about the Man.U fans is they take the stick knowing their team will do the talking on the field, I suggust you to take the stick that comes when you have a very good side, which was just banter' and get on with things, don't give it the mouth if you can't take the stick that come's with losing, you can act as grown up as you like, but at the end of the day it was YOU that came on the Villa web page way back, spouting of about Villa targets from spurs, I remember you acting very childish with your mouth! pssin off the entire site, over time we've built up abit of a raport with you, so if your still going to be funny about things, telling people your 9yr old nephew wouldn't have done that, then dont come back m8 I won't lose any sleep, and I don't bet for 1 minute that you don't give your mate's stick when there side lose, so, to finish, I'm sorry I upset you, I had know idea how fragile you were, but please less of the grown up remarks and think back!

Eltoro, if you can find me one time I have come to Vital Villa and said something along the lines of "Spurs will get fourth spot" then I will hold my hands up, but until then...... All I have ever said is that Spurs have a great chance of breaking the "Top Four" this season and IMO we will do it.

OAL smells his own farts.

Martin O'Neill could be set to make an offer for Porto Right back Jose Boswinga. It is believed a bid of around £6 million will be enough to convince the Portuguese club to part with the player. Anyone know if he's any good? Talk about taking us to the "wire". I wonder why he habitually leaves it so late to make offers. I'm beginning to think he's "all at sea" and now starting to panic!

The avfc website is carrying "Signings This Week" on the "News" page. So maybe it's all about to happen? No doubt "The Fear" is abreast of all breaking news and will keep us posted.

Re Bosingwa, the earlier press speculation linking him with us and the barcodes had him at £3 million so waiting until the last minute might have cost us an extra £3 million oops!