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Why Such A Rubbish Transfer Window?

Vital Villa asked, in a poll suggested by Peter Rollason:

Why has transfer activity so far this window yielded less players than expected?

54% still have faith 'We'll get a couple of major signings before transfer window closes'

That left 22% voting that the Villa boss 'has misjudged the transfer market' after bringing in just Nigel Reo-Coker (looked a very decent addition against Inter Milan) and Marlon Harewood (ahem, didn't look quite such a decent addition against Inter Milan but I'm sure we'll give him time to prove himself!)

11% voted 'MON has tried but been snubbed by big names' although that is very contrary to what Martin O'Neill has said as he insists no one has rejected a move.

8% have faith in the boss and less in the board as they voted: 'MON hasn't got the funds'. Totally untrue that one, as far as I'm concerned I've had enough re-assurances and totally believe the integrity of the new owner and board. The money is there and Randy will back the manager. At the moment the manager has let them down in my ever so humble opinion.

And the other results:

MON has funds but doesn't want to handle big name (2%)
The club, despite denials is operating a sell to buy (2%)
MON has got the players he wanted (1%)

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The Journalist

Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday August 7 2007

Time: 4:00PM

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It's Not All About Signings For The Sake Of Signing A Player, It's About Getting The Right Player For The Club!
MON has misjudged the market. He shouldn't have let the likes of Olinjik, Ridgewell and Hughes leave without adequate replacements. Only now are Man City releasing players. WBA have signed 2 or 3 replacements before Davies will inevitably leave. I just can't see how he will fulfill his promise of bringing in adequate replacements as he principles will still apply regarding cost & character of the player in question. Randy will regret not intervening and perhaps a british chairman would have forced the issue.
I sort of agree with your comments Gazvilla. I think the board should have had more involvement in the transfers. IMO once the players were identified by MON then the CEO should have had all dealings with the other club and players agent. MON should only have had dealings with the players themselves. This is not a judgment against MON but this is how transfers should be dealt with.
No one knows what's going on, this is all speculation. City have signed mostly foreign players very quickly it will be interesting to see how they perform.
Im afraid too many Villa fans are becoming "little HDE's"!. ie too much interference in transfer dealings. Before Randy bought the Club everyone applauded the fact that Randy was a "hands-off" owner who left his executives to get on with it. This is what now got so let's judge at the end of next season whether the Club is still moving forward. I'm sure Randy won't be a "happy bunny" if we're not continuing to move forward.
I dont think he should of let them go but he did say he was letting everyone leave who didn't want to stay but I dont think it meant everyone we ned some of them and he just let them go because they wanted out
It's simple, clubs no we have money and are short of players. Teams will sell their players on the last day of the transfer window no problem at all, and we will get a good deal. Until then, they will play beggers with us and over price their players!
If money is available, no one has rejected MON then why do i see Harewood wearing the No 9 and not say Sneijder or an actual forward?
Gazvilla, we had a British chairman for 20+ years, where did that get us? Manure, Chelsea and Redscouse have foreign chairmen, has that stopped them spending? No. As for the manager, it's probably harder not to have bought and be taking this stick, than it would've have been to waste the clubs money just to pacify us by buying for the sake of buying. Time will tell of course and while it's frustrating, I honestly believe MON is putting AVFC first and not himself.
I keep saying this but, have some faith lads. MON is trying to buy long term class not just numbers. I believe he knows what he is doing. True the season does start on Saturday but that does not mean that we have to have a full squad assembled by then. I hope we get Gordon, Davies and Hoyte but we dont necessarily need them by this friday. Well said Stevew above
return of godzvilla
run the poll on the 1st of september
theres 3 weeks left as long as we got the side that finished last season to start we'll do ok... have faith !!!
Gappy yhats ok saying that BUT what happens if we drop 6 points because we dont have a proper right back. We are not prepared squad size for the season.
last season when we was very thin we still managed to draw not loose. i dont see much changing
we havent droppd the points yet. i'm a great believer in crossin a bridge when we get to the bridge .
OK the way I see it we should now be putting the finishing touches to the squad. I would have liked the new right back to have played a couple of times, worked with the team, and that goes for the other signings we should have made, The big complaint last season was no time to bring players in, no time to work with them, well Martin you have done it this time. I am not talking about his ability as a manager and motivator, but he really should have sorted this out.
O'neill has misjudged the market, missed is targets, been turned down, not went after the right player, he should have signed so and so and thingmebob. Just how much top flight management as everyone got? Personally i will trust in O'neill.
SteveW - Your point doesn't make sense. Yes we had a British chairman but didn't have the spending power of Randy. If he did he wouldn't stand around and watch what's happening! Other foreign chairman have watched their money being spent so they didn't need to get involved. We have Randy who has left it all to MON. MON hasn't spent and left us in a precarious position. If Gordon turns us down and Taylor got injured we're stuffed.
MON is crap at buying players and shouldn`t have sold as many as he has,but saying that he could play Sorenson at RB and still inspire his team to get a result.
I think we all dont think he should of sold all those players unless he was confident of bringing players in
Didn't realise there were so many transfer experts around, CV's please to Villa Park, as for getting the forwards and midfield gelling during pre-season, must have been pure luck. Defenders don't take as long to settle as midfielders and forwards, why can't people see this ? any defenders coming in now (except a right back obviously) will be cover and will have to compete for a place with Mellberg, Laursen and Bouma, all of whom looked very comfortable against Internazionale. And who's saying Gordon is our only option for a keeper ? You people are really showing a lack of respect for MON, judge him on September 1st. Mind you with so many experts on running a premier league football club, we should be in safe hands, Randy can just pluck someone off here should MON get it all wrong.
Aspinall I wouldnt agree with that, only Scotland I know but he saved Sutton days and other good signings. Young will be a great player, as will Pe
Ha ha ha - classic - yep,he can`t do any wrong!!!! Open your mind,the thread is " why a poor transfer window " stop taking everything as personal attack on MON,he`ll be OK in the end but he just ain`t perfect - relax.
Do you think you will get the keeper from Hearts? It seems a lot of money they are asking.
Sorry, as will Petrov and Carew I think you are playing devils advocate
Its took Moyes 5 weeks to get Baines to Everton, Alladyce is struggling to get quality players that he wants, it isn't just us. MON had deals in place apparently and then clubs and agents move the goalposts. I'm not a 'MON is god' person, far from it, in my eyes he is a B grade manager and not A grade, but it isn't that easy to get the right deals done. Hardly anything as been said about transfers at the club, which shows professionalism in my eyes, lets see how Man City, West Ham and Co get on with their panic buys, we have had a good pre-season, bonding as a unit, I'm sure three defenders/two defenders one keeper are coming in, wouldn't make sense to let Ridgewell and Hughes go.
He`d managed Petrov for years and nobody knew Carew was a good player did they ? Name me a nugget that he`s found? He`s not that type of manager.
Aspinall he did find (or the youth manager) some half decent young kids at Celtic Crainey beattie, and a certain Maloney, as well as rebuilding some careers Thompson, Lennon etc, however we are not Celtic. I dont doubt his man management and he will bring on the younger players but WTF was this summer about
Exactly,the thread is about why it`s been crap and i`m saying that he cannot purchase,why did he sell though? Strange days indeed.
Players shouldn't have been allowed to leave without replacements already in house. That has been a major error. Admittedly those who we've moved on were arguably not of the calibre needed to help the club reach the next level, but they were bodies. Take Aaron Hughes for example. Not the best of defenders, but a specialist right back who could have continued to do a job for us until we had a replacement signed and sealed. Strengthen other teams squad while weakening ours, yes, that makes a lot of sense. This summers transfer activity absolutely stinks. Other teams have strengthened, while we have seemingly twiddled our thumbs and watched. I'm disappointed, very surprised, and yes, somewhat angry. I feel we are in danger of missing the boat.
Amen glensider.
Right on Glensider
Yep Glensider....nail...head...
ASPINALL - U need to chill babe. We all know that MON has fked up with his selling and not buying. What can we do about it anyway? Just support the club and trust all will be right on the night. I'm not loosing any sleep over it.
i am with you myleftfoot, there has been some mistakes, MON has himself said as much about the lack of back up plans, and having to renegotiate. craig gordon is going to sunderland, so what? villa fans should not take this personally. my thoughts still go to: jussi, bosingwa, hangeland. all very capable. our bid of 6-7 mil for Davies is a bit lame. a straight 8.5 and we'd have him. this is where the mistakes have been made, we are under bidding, which some on the site seem to relate to deadly's reign, but we all should know things are different. up the villa!
He has completely misjudged the transfer market without a doubt. He has supposedly left it late so as to not pay over the odds, but still looks like getting involved in a bidding war for Gordon and Davies!
Deano - do you advocate spending what it takes to secure a player no matter what the price?
Maybe not in the future Tarsan, but I think in the situation we are in now, I would say yes - absolutely. If it's a player that we've identified as someone that will improve our team significantly, then of course there will be other teams bidding, and yes - it may push the price up. So what do we do - keep letting all the good players move to other clubs and we end up snapping up more Harewood quality budget buys??? It's our own fault we are in this position through selling before buying.
Man - i just can't wait for the season to start and we can all talk about something different.
same here
With only two exhammers on board it has to be one of the stressful times to be standing on the sidelines watching other clubs bringing in players left right etc. Even Man City have splashed the cash to transform the team. I have faith in MON as a manager but maybe he needs a someone to give him a few pointers on getting players in. If people thought players were going for silly money how much will they cost if the club waits till the death to try and sign them? I perish the thought of the transfer window closing with no new players inbound.

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