Unbelievable!

Some people will never be happy. (the media)

agree with both, some will never be happy, some will look for a story where there isn't one and yes, I think it is a bang on certainty money would have been spent if not for the transfer window, if not why would they be bothering to improve Bodymoor for the 'bigger named' players? Just got to be patient, I'm happy with 10th, of course I'd rather we were 3rd but 10th is a damn site better than last season and at least we now know we are building?

nicely summed up! lol

We're doing alright for a tired team of pros sprinkled with some untried youngsters. When the money comes, and it will, Villa will be challenging the big boys. As previously stated, though, some people will never be happy.

Surely "when" the money comes in should be "if". Forgive me for being cynical, but it's fair enough given what we are used to, but surely we should be waiting for actions rather than words. I hope the owners put as much money into the transfer market as they do into trying to convince the fans they are "cool"!

The press stiring the shyt again, I posted earlier in the week about the press giving off negative vibes because the Chairman wont play their game. ***** em off, Alex Ferguson has in the past banned jurnos who have given him a hard time. >>>'There's work being done in the background - but who knows whether that materialises or not?<<< Is a very honest answer to a question from someone keeping their cards close to their chest.....

The negativity that is spreading amongst the supporters just defies belief.

Winging fans have always been a problem at Villa Park. probably always will be. To see the resolve of the new board it is only necessary to seperate the off field, which could be tackled, from the on-field which could not. The off field stuff is progressing exteremely well and will no doubt get even more interesting once the new CEO is in place. Attention can now switch to on-field. But for heavens sake remember Villa are not the only club striving to improve. I sometimes wonder what the moaners have achieved themselves in their own life to give them the right to criticise people with the best interests of the club at heart.

The fact that this is even being talked about just amazes me. Perhaps if the the coffin dodger hadn't done his usual, and upset Randy in their first meeting, the takeover would have gone through a lot sooner and given the new board chance to spend money on players. Are these short-sighted idiots whingeing about the new owners, the same short-sighted idiots that refused to send their share certificates back? I fail to see how Randy could have done anymore. He's backed MON for Petrov and Milner (is it Randy's fault Newcastle changed their minds?), he's paid wages and signing on fees for Sutton and Agathe, started work on Bodymoor, got Ron Saunders back, consulted with suppoerters. What more can the man do? IMO he's been more constructive in his time in charge than Ellis has been in the last 20 years. Lion Dog, how have the new owners been trying to convince everyone they're "cool"? I think, given the fact that he has already spent £8m on Petrov (the biggest transfer fee since Angel, I think), we can be certain that the chairman is prepared to back his manager

Nice to see the same excuses on here pre-empting the possibility Lerner may not give O'Neill or O'Neill may not be up to dealing well enough come January. Excuses aside, O'Neill has repeatedly said we are desperate for players to improve the squad size, yet the excuse makers ignore this. I keep hearing about all the money spent in the club yet none of it would buy any of our players even those on a free we seemingly can't drop off the wage bill quick enough. Some still propagate everything is great on the field, having spent on Sutton's, Agathe's and especially Petrov's transfer and wages, we are 3 points better off than during the 'worst season in Villa history'. yet, even mildly criticise O'Neill, even suggest Lerner may not be giving up as much money as some hope and you become a pariah. Speaking with some past Villa players who are now pundits you'd be amazed at how brainless and gutless they think many Villa fans have become since the takeover. I agreed with them too.

But how would these pundits expect Villa fans to be behaving at the moment? What is there to be fighting about? I was told recently I'd sold out since the takeover and I'd lost my bite. But what am I meant to be biting about? Seriously, what? IF they haven't done what they've promised in a years time, then fine, get up in arms and ask why, BUT what is there to be angry about at the moment? The transfer window was closed when the new guys rolled into town, there wasn't time to add to the squad. I and others could go on and on about the last chairman, forget his name now, but what is the point? We all know he ran us nearly into the ground, so we've surely got to give the new guys time to restore us? Do we really expect this to be done over night?

I just can't see where these guys have put a foot wrong, apart from maybe in not feeding the press a bit which will or could lead to a backlash, so please do educate me what has been done wrong, as I'm clearly missing something? I don't think the soap in the toilets is the best brand, so maybe we should be up in arms that it isn't imperial leather?!

Lion Dog, would be fascinated to hear what you mean by these guys trying to be cool, Randy hasn't said a word and the new CEO isn't in place yet. If you mean the general, then I think he has been cool, not many directors would spend their time talking to the fans on the forums etc and if more did I'm sure there would be far more happy fans. I think he could go down in Villa folklore as he is certainly a character, that is 100% for sure!!

something i cant understand is why this has come out now? the transfer window opens in less than a week and were up on arms over not buying players. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO!! those of you who want to gripe, wait until febuary and then find yourselves and good, sturdy brick wall and direct your concerns to that, what's the problem? didnt get your trainset off santa? Randy must be sitting there thinging 'you bunch of ungrateful *****ers' and DOL is sitting there thinking 'i was right, you are a bunch of whingers'. in the meantime anyone who doesn't want to gripe can sit back and watch the villa on the rise.

This is baffling....agreed the sun doesn't shine out of O'Neills and Lerners backsides, but we have the best manager that has ever graced Villa park in years, and most other fans would kill to have him in charge. What I don't understand is why everyone is saying that O'Neill is underachieving, he has always known that the team would go througha bad run and this sadly is it....but he has never been under illusions, he's said that he has a small squad, but he's also said that he will get on with what he's got, and at the moment, it's clear that what he has is not good enough... So what can he do? Let's remember we have a manager who was hired 2 weeks before the official start of the season, he has only really started to know the limitations of the players, and their capabilities. Regardless of what people say yes we've drawn a lot of games, but do you honestly think we would have drawn those same games under O'Leary...probably not, I think we would have ended up capitulating....O'Neill may never win a trophy with Villa, but you can guarantee that it won't be for lack of trying. Sutton has been a brilliiant signing for us, and O'Neill gave Agathe the challenge to play, which it seems he hasn't taken. As for Lerner, as The Fear says what else is he supposed to do? In a transfer window that is closed? This team is now backed by a board that cares, but the sad truth is that even if Lerner spends £10m in the transfer window (which in my opinion would be good) people will complain and say he should have spent £20m....I can only dread to think what will be said if transfers don't go through...totally pathetic!