Bumper Villa Crowd On Saturday

How different it would have been if England had got MON. Thank God they didn't!

lets start backing mclaren - or else they may come MON hunting

Oi. Scottda **********(removed). I have already put this on your site but as you are more interested in The Villa than the Spuds you may as well read it here. Small club? Read this and make your own mind up. It seems that a lot of the Spuds fans who visit this site, and often infest others, would be better off doing there homework or washing their foster parents car. As for who is the bigger or more successful club here are the FACTS for you ******* (removed) to chew over. We could talk about history and the fact that we have won the league 7 times in comparison to your twice. We could talk about the League Cup and our 5 victories compared to your 3. In fairness you have won the FA Cup once more with 8 victories, with ourselves lagging behind on 7 (but I wonder what this season holds). Or should we talk about the European Cup ...... oooops I do not think so, as you are yet to pit your wits against the big boys of Europe let alone win club footballs biggest prize.. But it would be unfa [Edited by TheFear]

Scott's right Villa have won nothing in last 10 years. Spurs? 1 League Cup. Yeah you've really left Villa behind you idiot

Now Girls no ******ing, I am looking forward to a good game on Sat, on present form we should win but who knows? I hope (if picked) Robbie Keane is as useless as he has been of late for Ireland

Yep 1 cup better off than you!!!!!!!! And where did you finish last year? If not better than 5th you have no right to argue.

That's your best EVER Prem finish! Read the posts on here Scott before making ridiculous comments. Voiceoftheholte has provided you with the facts. Read them

I've read them and he's right there facts. but there no getting away that we have better players, better fans, finished higher lastt year, in Europe this year, and will more than likely d#finish above you this year. As I said you have no right to argue.

skins. If you read the comments from your fellow Spuds fans, it is they who have been on our site with the abuse. So I suggest you all concentrate on your own club because you've got alot more problems than we have at the moment. UTV

Scott, you alone have proved that Spuds do not have better fans. We've had more sensible and constructive debates with the noses

They're getting all touchy and offended now. Shame

You've come on here to try and argue a point which has been proved to be wrong by the facts stated above. So now your all getting touchy. Everytime it is suggested Spurs aren't as big a club as their deluded fans think they are, abusive posts start. We'll see who's laughing on Saturday will we. 6th vs 14th. Foregone conclusion. UTV

No Villa haven't won either. We got to the quarter finals a few years back and were knocked out by Athletico Madrid after Collymore had scored a screamer in front of the Holte. I don't think we ever played in the Cup Winners Cup. We have however beaten Bayern Munich to win the European Cup and Barcelona to win the Super Cup, which I wouldn't trade for any number of UEFA or CWC wins

At least skins is being realistic. I know a few Spurs fans and they don't come out with all this big club nonsense after 1 decent season unlike most who come on here.

Right firstly both are big clubs that through a mixture of being run by mugs and buying cack over the years have totally under achieved, Villa fans are obviously up at the moment with some good results generated by the new boss, its funny how even when spurs were absolute rubbish it was still sell outs every week, yet were the ones that get called fickle! looking through the squads its clear that villa still have the same rubbish as last year , i rate mon but listening to some of the comments on here you are going to win the league! If people on here don't want spurs reply's then they shouldn't include spurs in thier title as this brings it up on the spurs newsnow link otherwise believe me no-one would be on here as spurs are not remotely interested in your boring club.should be a close game i think with a goal either way to win although can see a draw . any clubs results improve when a new boss comes in as everyone wants to impress but over the course of a season its the quality in the squad that counts of which you aint got much .

That is a tough start Scott. Spurs definitely have the players to be in the top 10, but I think you'll struggle to get 6th this year. 8th or 9th with a good UEFA cup run. As for Villa, before the season started I would have taken 10th and I would still be satisfied with that, although it all depends what happens in January

Jason good results for sure and won't catch to many spurs fans unhappy with it either as they are both scum! you are only 1 bad result away from leveling out tho imho

Our first bad result and how the players react will be the big test. Not sure I agree with your last comment parklanbert. We'll soon find out whether the players are playing above themselves or whether this is where we should have been all along. What you seem to forget is that we DO have a good squad. These are the same players which almost got us relegated, but they are also the same players who got us to 6th. The only difference is now that we have a world class manager who can keep them motivated and who wants the team to play attacking and attractive football. There is no doubt that we deserve to be where we are in the league and I think you are wide of the mark saying that we'll level out

Some interesting points that need to be addressed one at the time. Skins, when I showed the facts that Villa have won 20 trophies to Spuds 13 I did not include the EUFA or Cup Winners Cup, the same as I didn't include us winning the European Super Cup. I highlighted the three domestic trophies and the main European one. But if you insist on adding these to the 'score' it becomes 21 - 16. So facts show that Villa are the more successful club. I have already shown you that in recent history our Premier League record is much better than Spuds. Although Spuds did have their only top 5 finish last season. However results this season have just put them back to the level to which they are more accustomed. Parklanebert .....Spuds always sold out even when they were performing poorly????? Are you having a laugh?? I remember going to *****e Farm Lane when Bosnich saved a penalty. I think the result was 1 -1 and the attendance was 17,000. Most clubs attendances have fluctuated and you lot are no [Edited by TheFear]

and just for good measure parklanebert you wrote earlier that Spuds always sold out even when performing poorly. But you did not say if you went to the game that was mentioned, when Bosnich saved the penalty (in fact it may have been two penalties)? By full ..... do you mean the 17000 that were at that game? By the way, the Pope wears a funny hat ........ is that racist as well? You muppet.

CHAPS. Some posts removed. WE DO NOT DO personal insults on this site, never have never will. Debate yes, rubbish and abuse no. Spurs and Villa aren't that different size wise, ffs, lets get a grip. For what it is worth (about 4p on last count) Villa have a good history of finishing above Spurs in the league. Does that help the fact we've won sod all since 96? Nope. We are more than capable of competing with most teams and might (might) in the next few years have a shot at going for the big boys, Chelsea aside who are just buying the league. Spurs if they carry on as they are, could also have a shot at breaking into the top six regularly but I'd put my money on Villa over them.

Some interesting points that need to be addressed one at the time. Skins, when I showed the facts that Villa have won 20 trophies to Spuds 13 I did not include the EUFA or Cup Winners Cup, the same as I didn't include us winning the European Super Cup. I highlighted the three domestic trophies and the main European one. But if you insist on adding these to the 'score' it becomes 21 - 16. So facts show that Villa are the more successful club. I have already shown you that in recent history our Premier League record is much better than Spuds. Although Spuds did have their only top 5 finish last season. However results this season have just put them back to the level to which they are more accustomed. Parklanebert .....Spuds always sold out even when they were performing poorly????? Are you having a laugh?? I remember going to *****e Farm Lane when Bosnich saved a penalty. I think the result was 1 -1 and the attendance was 17,000. Most clubs attendances have fluctuated and you lot are no different. Do not infest this site with your lies that you have always sold out. And as for scottda ****pincher, you say Spuds have struggled because you have had hard games. As I recall you couldn't beat Fulham at home. You lost at home to Everton who played most of the game with 10 men. And the only reason you beat Pompey was because the only player you have that has got a ****, dived over it to cheat yourself a penalty. Where as we have played Chelski, who you haven't beat for 37 games and Narf Landans big club, The Arse. Both of whom failed to beat us on their own patch. Saturday will be a good game I hope. The attendance will be more than Spuds have had for a home game for 15 years. So armed with the facts this would indicate that both clubs could be classed as 'big', with Villa being the slightly bigger and more successful of the two. voiceoftheholte You should post on 606 mate as you are clearly a WUM, firstly why would you not include TWO UEFA Cups, and a Cup Winners Cup when these were won by Spurs only the Champions were excluded so Spurs played clubs like AC Milan Real Madrid, Ajax ,Barcelona, Bayern Munich, etc when winning those trophies so don't be so idiotic in dissing them. Oh and in case you did not know Super Cups are not official Trophies, as for Spurs crowds we are the THIRD highest in average attendances since records began, we have sold out going back into the last century, obviously in the 80,s every club lost fans due to the tragedies and violence etc. The fact that your highest season tickets are in the £400 range and you still can't sell out shows you have no where near Spurs level of support. Spurs charge up to £1500 for a season ticket, yet we have a waiting list with over 25,000 fans on it, WHY DON'T ASTON VILLA HAVE 25,000 FANS ON THEIR WAITING LIST IF THEIR SUPPORT IS SO GREAT !!!. ASTON VILLA HAVE NO WAITING LIST DO THEY THAT IS WHY. "see on our official site" for proof. Spurs away season tickets are also completely sold out, Spurs even sell out for pre season friendlies as well, we sell out all of our home games a month before they are played incuding the UEFA Cup Chelsea cant even sell out Champions League games despite advertising on radio and in newspapers etc. Aston Villa are a great old club with a very good history even if the majority of your silverware was won around 100 years ago. Over the last 50 years Spurs have been far more prolific, Spurs winning 13 Trophies during this period. Financially Spurs are light years in front of Aston Villa in turnover profit or money invested in the team, Spurs have the SECOND richest owners in football and have spent over £100 million pounds in the last three years alone, but we have NO DEBT AT ALL only Chelsea spent more than Spurs (Spurs Invested £35 million this summer alone) Spurs have just signed the FIFTH biggest sponsorship deal in World football with MANSION for a minimum of £34 million rising to over £40 million, Aston Villa have a £2 million pound deal kinda puts things in perspective doesn't it VOTH, OH AND IT IS THE UEFA Cup not EUFA Cup. . ..

Yes Aston Villa over the next few years will improve and be a top six club at least, MON is an excellent manager and will improve Villa without any doubt.

Another WUM who posts without thinking, Spurs SOLD OUT every single Home ticket last season including PRE SEASON FRIENDLIES !!! the only few seats not sold were in the "away section" hence the 99 % + full capacity , why spout crap about small ground etc, when I clearly and correctly stated that Spurs currently have OVER 25,000 FANS ON THE WAITING LIST FOR SEASON TICKETS, this is despite paying the highest prices in the premiership of £71 for Grade A matches," What part of that do you find so hard to grasp TheQ. You then state "wrongly again " that Spurs are the THIRD most successful London Club, when Chelsea are clearly historically in THIRD spot, or do you use current success when it suits your argument but then use Aston Villas Trophies from over 100 years ago when that suits your case. keep posting on 606 mate.

not really intersted in spurs fans ranting, villa till i die!

It would indeed be great to see both Aston Villa and Spurs, challenging for honours once again.