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Jlloyd Samuel Closes In On Return

The official site say that left-back Jlloyd Samuel, the subject of much transfer speculation through the summer, is finally recovering from an initial thigh injury plus further complications.

Jlloyd strained his thigh against Reading and Martin O'Neill explains his return took longer than expected,

'That's been really slow - it's been a lot slower than we anticipated. It's like two injuries in one - a thigh pull and then he developed a lump in the thigh as well but we're getting to grips with it. It's hard to put a time scale on it.'

Might take some doing to force his way back into the team now anyway, lets hope he is up for the challenge as he doesn't now just have to try to shift Wilfred Bouma when the Dutch international returns but also skipper Gareth Barry who has moved to left-back in a re-shuffle to accommodate Stiliyan Petrov.

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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday September 27 2006

Time: 12:06PM

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competition for places - whatever next.
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27/09/2006 12:44:00

it'll never catch on tylervilla!
The Fear
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27/09/2006 13:12:00

J Lloyd Samuel is *****e. Sell him!
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27/09/2006 14:19:00

Easily the worst player at villa.
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27/09/2006 16:02:00

Jlloyd was a tremendous player in the previous managers (can't remember his name) first season. He went downhill with the rest of the squad in the following two seasons. A fully motivated Jlloyd would be an asset to any squad in the Premier League. In his only game this season, at Arsenal, he was outstanding and it looked as if we had rediscovered the old Jlloyd. He was injured in the first few minuteas against Reading so no judgement can be made on that game. However I believe he should be afforded the same clean slate that everybody at the club has had since the arrival of M'ON and Randy. Even if he does not get back to the level of previous seasons, it is important that he is seen to be an integral part of the club. Only then can we expect to obtain the best transfer value for him. I am also very anti, Villa fans having a go at their own players. It is a bad habit that many fans have got into, fuelled I think by the frustration in not being able to remove the main cause of the frustration ......... Ellis. However he has gone. Now is the time for total positivity. We can now confidently leave all team selection matters to M'ON and if picks someone with who we disagree, who are we to argue. If we can not say something positive, maybe it is best to say nothing at all (unless of course we want the manager or the chairman out).
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27/09/2006 17:12:00

JLS is not good enough for this squad. I hope he goes in January.
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27/09/2006 18:18:00

Give the lad a chance guys! Most players have been revitalised by O'Neill. What makes you think he won't be too?! Loads of you wanted Angel, McCann et al to go in the summer, but MO'N had faith and has brought out their full potential again. I reckon he'd do it to Jlloyd as well, so stay off his back!
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27/09/2006 18:40:00

Jlloyd played every game when we came top six three years ago. We would be happy with top six this season. By my reckoning that means Jlloyd has the ability to play in a top six team. If you go through every team in the league there are not many better left backs than Jlloyd. The following two seasons he played when not fit because the previous manager did not know who else to play there. Tierney and voth both seem to grasp the reality of the situation.
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27/09/2006 19:48:00

Let MON rebuild his confidence, playing in an organised and motivated team, then lets judge him. For now lets wait and see, clean slate and all that
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27/09/2006 19:59:00

TIERNEY. never mind give the lad a chance, he is to lax when it comes to passing 50% of his distribution goes astray, he's always being caught out of position, he can't tackle, attackers go by him far to easy, have him in the villa squad I dont think so, I wont even have him in the squad on championship manager. are you really telling me that you would be happy if in 2 seasons we get in europe and hes up against some of the big names, he's championship level at best maybe league one get rid and replace with better, we have to move on and up
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28/09/2006 08:39:00

eltoro, you are entitled to your opinion. However so are other supporters and I think it is your kind of attitude that destroys the confidence of players and ensures that good players may think twice about coming to VP. You may also be interested to know that in the last three seasons, official stats show Jlloyd has consistently been one of the clubs best passers. I think other fans would like it confirmed that you go to every home game and make your judgement based on what you see, as opposed to what you hear.
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28/09/2006 09:38:00

voiceoftheholt, tierney thank you, some positive common sense, players are affected by their team mates and management, if anyone can bring out the best in a player its MON, so I back up the call for the negative fans to back off, as my mother used to say if you have nothing nice to say, shut it or I'll send you to your room with a smacked arse. UTV
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28/09/2006 10:34:00

Samuel is by far the weakest link, he cannot pass and retain possession of the ball to save his life. Bouma a much better player by far.
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28/09/2006 16:18:00

Guys, this is a fans forum where we can give our opinion. Whilst I agree we shouldn't have a go at players when playing, we are entitled to give an opinion. After all not everyone wanted DOL out or Ellis? Discussing who we think is our favourite and who we think is crap is what makes the site interesting. We don't want a sanitised site where everyone agrees we each other.
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28/09/2006 16:21:00

Give Samuel a chance, but it's been a long time since I saw anything worth keeping. We've got Bouma (when he gets round to playing) Barry and when we sign a world class left back, Samuel will have to do something special or we might as well cash in on him.
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28/09/2006 16:24:00

Eltoro, was JLS like that a couple of seasons back when he was pushing for an England place? And did you say your comments then or were you part of the large contingent who backed him for that spot?! Steff, no problem, but it is an opiniated game, however, common sense and some thought is always required.
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28/09/2006 19:36:00

He's definitely been a major disappointment since he played himself very close to international honours with continually impressive displays. His career has gone downhill fast, but the ability is definitely there. He needs to get himself fit, knuckle down, get himself back in the starting line up and take it from there. Good luck to him.
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28/09/2006 21:21:00

voiceoftheholte,you want to know if I go to the villa or sit at home. I don't live in Birmingham or ever have, I'm based on the south coast Dorset but that has not stopped me travelling home and away with the Villa, its been a couple of seasons since I've got to the Villa what with work and family commitments but before that me and my lad went home and away for 8 seasons spending just over £18,000, in season tickets (upper holte), travel, petrol, shirts, booze in the Aston social club, so don't ask me if I'm in for the long ride, I spend as much has anyone on the villa, I'm 44 years old with 3 sons 2 grand daughters and 1 grandson and they're all Villa, so don't question my credentials, and tierny I've never backed JLS to play for England then or now, my assesment is based on what I've seen over the years and yes your right every one is entitled to their opinion, so that’s why I was having mine, if you believe he is the right player for villa then fine, I myself don't ,the bottom line is simple when he first arrived on the scene he looked like a decent player, but I think he his poor now, remember norman whiteside, jason McCateer, 2 good seasons a piece then no where to be seen. voiceoftheholte you say he’s been one of the best passers over the last 3 seasons, what are you basing that on, I'm not talking about the passes back to the keeper or across the back line, I'm talking about passes moving forward, he's poor when it comes to that, and that’s what counts at the end of the day, its called consistency and he dosn't have that, I can't base my claim on what MON can or might do, I can only base it on what I've seen, I don't get any joy from saying some villa players aren't good enough, but sometimes it as to be said, and has for steff_the_villan " if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all" these are grown men we're talking about who earn more in a week than I earn in a year, I wasn't talking about the man's family or how he conducts himself outside of the villa, Its simple when he or whoever plays for my beloved villa if they don't play well then I will say my piece . so voiceoftheholte,tierny, steff_the_villan, you should be more worried about the fans who don't voice there concerns, not those that do! GO ON THE VILLA
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29/09/2006 10:19:00

Just out of interest eltoro, how many games do you get to a season? I like you, am based down on the South Coast so don't see Villa as much as I'd like, hence the reason I'm very wary about criticising the players because I'm not actually seeing them in front of me which I believe is the only fair way to judge them. By the way it's Tierney - 2 e's (!) ;-)
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29/09/2006 10:39:00

HERE HERE!!! Tierney you cant criticise what you don't see a lot of
hampshire villian
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29/09/2006 12:22:00

Jesus christ whats the matter with you people, I've seen more of the villa than the pair of you put together, and spent more, I would be more than happy to meet and discuss this face to face with anyone who questions my loyalty. so for the last time I base my facts on what I've seen nothing more nothing less, and just to put the record striaght i don't seem to be the only one on here that things he's *****e, but if you want to put your money were your mouth is I bet he wont be at the villa in 2 years, time will tell
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29/09/2006 16:09:00

I don't care if eltoro hasn't ever been to watch a match live. He's still entitled to his opinion. If he said he'd been to every match JLS played in, you'd still disagree with him. If others reach the conclusion an opinion isn't as valid because it's based on poor foundations, then dismiss it. Can't see why we can't have a reasonable discussion on a DISCUSSION site. Now we've now DHE or DOL to complain about we're turning on ourselves. Typical!
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29/09/2006 17:48:00

thanks gazvilla the fact is i've seen plenty of the villa, just not in the last two seasons as i said earlier, i've also never been to the Labour party conference but I still vote for them and have my say - but i don't get *****ers writing up to me saying "if you've not been to a party conference before, you can't have your say on how the country's run!" Some people are just born *****ers. If I wasn't a really passionate Villa fan then i certainly wouldn't be on this site posting comments and arguing with *******s who think because they were born in B6 they have the right to have the monopoly on the Villa.
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29/09/2006 20:20:00

I don't think that eltoro! And yes you probably have spent more on and seen Villa more than me! I'm glad you are basing in on what you've seen, I just know some people make comments but don't actually see the games. But calling me a *****er because I expressed a contradicting opinion is a bit far don't you think? Like Gaz has said it's a discussion site!
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29/09/2006 21:42:00

Freddie Bouma has not made the left full back position his own due to disappointing and indifferent performances, so there is still hope for JLloyd. You cant help but wonder though whether its time for JLloyd to move on to pastures new. Maybe he needs the new challenge.
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30/03/2007 22:28:00


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