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Are takeovers bad for football?

Are takeovers bad for football?

Whilst it is not suggested Villa will have the type of funds available that Chelski have had, our recent good fortune suggests we will have much needed investment.

However, with West Ham now in their own takeover talks it does raise an interesting question;

Are takeovers good for football?

It is clear that once one or two teams break through with limitless resources the rest can forget it. Fans become disillusioned, matches can become predictable and boring.

Even some Chelsea fans are reported to yearn for the days when games were more open and postmatch discussion was about moaning about bad players,
managers and refereeing decisions.

Should there be limit on funds available to spend on players or even wage caps?

Are the Randy Lerner's of this world ruining the beautiful game?

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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday September 3 2006

Time: 11:13AM

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I must admit, I think they are bringing colour to the Premiership. We can't judge how RAL will be for Villa as they aren't even fully in power yet, although they should be soon. I can't see how - without the likes of RAL - Villa could ever progress and get back to where we were, so I'm all for it!
The Fear
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03/09/2006 11:16:00

Its good for Aston Villa but not for other clubs to be took over from our point of view. it seems now we have been bought by a Billionaire tons of other clubs will be too and we will proberly be back where we were before just like nearly every other premiership football team and at the moment it really is a big blow now West Ham have tons of money as the big names are likely to go there instead of Villa because they are a London club
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03/09/2006 11:28:00

If as reported the West Ham takeover will be funded by the former mentor of Roman Abramovich I feel it will have a negative aspect on the game. Will these two Russian Billionaires turn the Premiership into their personal playthings? A player becomes available and both teams want him will silly inflated prices come into the battle. A player comes on the market one team wants him another doesn't will they bid for the sake off it? i honestly can't see Lerner being able to compete against men whose personal fortunes are worth around 4 to 5 Billion sterling. Also a worrying fact about the influx of Russian money most of these men are wanted for questioning in the own country regarding fraud and the like.
still skeggy
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03/09/2006 11:29:00

Takeovers will eventually kill football - make no mistake, Villa will NEVER be the club you all loved as kids again. It's sad that so many genuine football fans seem prepared to sell their ethics so quickly, just to get a few quid for their club...
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03/09/2006 12:21:00

Take overs are a two edged sword. If, like with Villa, it is to get rid of someone who considered the club to be his own personal fiefdom and who was strangling the club with his out of date ideas and personal greed then 'Yes' it is good. But if it then means that hunfreds of millions of 's can be spent just to stop others buying a very good player, much like Chelski seem to do then 'No' it is not so good. It is pricing teams out of the market and whatever you may think; buying success like some teams are trying to do, takes away from the concept under which these tweams were formed 120 odd years ago. They were local teams of local lads not bought in superstars c.f. Arsenal without one English born player onn the field. I can understand Chelski fans becoming disillusioned, it is not what local support is all about. But, I don't know the answer.
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03/09/2006 12:22:00

What about spending limits or wags caps?
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03/09/2006 14:04:00

As long as we are members of the European Union, we will never be allowed to introduce limits or caps...
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03/09/2006 14:06:00

So, if it ws possible should UEFA /FIFA change it? What about the old argument of having so many Brits on the team?
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03/09/2006 14:20:00

The great Liverpool side had no English players on occassions...Anyway, the question of whether takeovers are bad for football is hard to answer - in my opinion, takeovers rapidly lead to franchised sports entertainment. Fans of lower league clubs would doubt whether what goes on in the Prem is really football anyway!
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03/09/2006 14:45:00

It all depends on what type of new owner a club gets and the starting point of the club. Villa is a massive club that has been gradually run dow with investment being made inconsistently and often in the wrong places. RAL bring with them investment and marketing stratergies, not an open cheque book as with Abramovic. RAL talk about raising funds for investment through marketing and sponsorship, Chelsea talk about Abramovic opening his wallet and either giving or more often lending them money. In my mind, anything that takes football forward as a both a sport and a business, in the way RAL are planning is good, anyone that uses football as their plaything, like Abramovic, is bad for the game. Just because the prospective new owner of Wham is a multi-billionair does not mean that he will behave like Abramovic, heck Randy could easily spend the kind of money Abramovic has (ok so after a few years he would run out of cash - at least way before Abramovic) but he is a sensible business man who sees opportunities to build and realises that when he leaves (he will one day, even if it's by reason of death) that he has a responsibility to hundreds of people for their livelyhoods and thousands of football fans, to leave a viable business / product. Abramovic will also one day leave Chelski, on that day they will be doomed to catastrophy and decades of insecurity due to overpaid players being bought for overinflated prices (on which they will never recoup theit investment) which has lead to massive debt.
Villain Of The North
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03/09/2006 16:05:00

Takeovers can be either good or bad. Our Latvian one seems to be going alright at the least off the field!
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03/09/2006 16:13:00

i think takeovers are good really gets more money into the game and more fans through the gates
green giant 12
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03/09/2006 16:41:00

Thank you, Villian Of The North I think your assessment of the situation is good. In a way I actually feel sorry for Chelski because sooner or later their house of cards will come down while , like you I believe RAL is building for the future.
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03/09/2006 16:55:00

superb post Villain, think you are spot on, RAL won't be throwing silly money they will be using good business practices and building an empire. I hate the way Chelski have been 'bought' and they were Abramovich's third choice behind Man Utd and Arsenal.
The Fear
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03/09/2006 17:10:00

The choice is quite simple. If you want football to remain a sport, where all teams have similar chances, there must be a "cap" on what players are paid otherwise those clubs with the deepest pockets will buy the best players and obviously have the best chance of winning most trophies -what a bore! Let's see every team in the Premiership all paid on the same pay structure and more money going into "grass roots" football and soccer academies.
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03/09/2006 20:19:00

I think this question is misguided. The question shouldn't be are takeovers bad for the game. It should be are the 'Are player wage/transfer fees too high and should agents 'own' the rights to players? Look at the West Ham situation - who owns the two Argentinians? My suspicion is that the agent will be the one to decide when and to whom they are sold. This is an area that needs investigation. It has been practice in south american football for agents to buy the rights to players and then move them on to places like Russia - hence all the Brazillians plying their trade in the frozen wastes of that country. They establish a name for themselves (a gamble on behave of the agent) and move on for a bigger sum and then eventually a move to 'glamour' club ensures a hansome profit for the agent. Players in south america are cheap (relatively) and thus offering a potential windfall to the agent willing to take a gamble on a player with potential. This is the situation with West Ham. Two players who haven't played outside of south america - it's a gamble but imagine the profit the agent will make if they are both successful! This is just another cattle trade and this is where FIFA or some authority really needs to step in and investigate the situation.
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03/09/2006 21:53:00

Without takeovers some clubs will just sink into oblivion. We were going that way with you know who. Whether we like it or not premiership football is about money.
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04/09/2006 09:03:00

Football is a business and as such takeovers are part of business, you cant stop it. Personally I think the more money being pumped into football the better, just so long as measures are put in place to make sure some of that money gets filtered through to grass roots.
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04/09/2006 09:40:00

Just a we think the backers behind AV06 may be the people behind the west ham takeover (couldnt get the real claret and blue but went for the soft southern alternative). AV06 did claim to have billionaires and london based which would fit in with the MIS company. If this is true would we have been the club getting tevez and the other argie if AV06 had been successful?
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04/09/2006 10:31:00

tylervilla I would much rather have Lerner, we do not need any argies to be succesfull, a lot of imports end up as expensive missfits, unable to cope with life in the premiership, the grass is rarely greener, I may only be speaking for myself, but, yes I have to admit to being a very happy and contented villan (did those words really come from a villa fan????) I think our squad have tremendous promise even with our lack of size, and we have a manager who is second to none, VOTN good post, I do not believe that Lerner is the same kind of owner as Roman, and the pennies will be spent wiser, I would trust our management to do the job right.
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04/09/2006 15:48:00

Selfishly I suppose, I'm only interested in how a takeover relates to AVFC. It was our only way forward, and as such has to be a good thing. Football is changing, and we have to keep up with the changes, the new ideas, the innovations. The traditionalists wont like it, but the alternative is to be left hopelessly behind.
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05/09/2006 04:31:00


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