Aston Villa News 24/7Writer: J P Fear 
Date:Monday July 31 2006
Time: 1:43PM
UK time is: 23:39:09
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Forget The Takeover?
Forget the Takeover
Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me (or something like that). The point I'm trying to get at is that we have all fallen for this takeover talk before and we should be wise to learn from our mistakes.
The silence at VP tell us something - Ellis is not selling. I back these thoughts up with...
If you want to sell something you already have an idea in mind of how much you want. The fact Ellis has not accepted the Neville bid either means it is not enough (in which case no-one will probably pay much more for what is already an over priced business) or it means he does not want to sell.
The argument of he is waiting for all the bids to come in means either
A. The finance is not in place for the other guys to make a bid (and can take a very long time to sort) or
B. He is playing them off each other to get the most for himself (which will probably lead them all to walk away).
None of these points favourably toward a takeover any time soon.
And even if they do receive another bid - will any of them see it through with Ellis saying 'you will report to me'.
While we are all waiting for a takeover we are not demanding more investment from Ellis, which is great for him.
My thoughts are now to consider the takeover Saga over and lets concentrate on asking Ellis who is going to be our next manager and what funds are you going to make available to him. The target has to be to put pressure on Ellis to sign 2/3 players to ensure we stay in the league.
Feel free to ram this down my throat when Randy comes and throws Ellis out the top window.
By tylervilla
Patience tyler, I think things could look very much different at the end of the week, I've got the champagne being chilled in readiness!
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Only 30 more shopping days until the transfer window closes for other clubs. It's already closed at Villa.
Steve W
Tell the truth the takeover talk does nothing but make me feel depressed.
still skeggy
I'm on lemonade now..I'd be happy to upgrade to Champagne at any time.
But at this rate, i'll be on meths by Wednesday. It's all a bit flat after the highs we were all on last week. Come back Randy!
baros10
My fingers are numb flicking through the various sites about Villa. I like JP still cling to the notion that Ellis is close to the end of his hold on Villa. That will dissapear if nothing happens by Friday of this week. I suppose secound prise of O'Neill would leave us much better of than with O'Dreary, if we have to settle for another with Ellis.
irish villa
I think this week will see all the manic depressives at Villa hitting the highs again. Lerner will be back in negotiations by the end of the week and AV06 will have made a bid or withdrawn. I've already smoked a cigar to celebrate the beginning of the end.
ooahPaulMcGrath
I agree to some parts, this is a farce the way the sale has been handled. If you want to sell a business/Real estate/art (all of which Aston Villa i believe are) you put it up for sale and it is sold and then you find out the owner is................We on the other hand are this one is buying, no this ones coming in, oh hold someone else has just met in the pub round the corner and are tabling a bid. It should not work this way. Its a joke, either its Doug or Rothchilds has leaks. But one of them should be fired.
NY Villa
i dont get why if the club is up for sale, and rothschilds were appointed to find buyers, why you think he is not going to sell?
Its All Over FC
because it takes the heat off him while we think he is trying to sell. Villa are a desirable club and loads of people would love to own it. But either Ellis doesnt want to, is asking too much or is impossible to deal with at negotitations.
tylervilla
This is all pure doug magic. Its all there and it will be coming out soon dougs hollywood magic forget :Dumb and Dumber: this story will be entitled Doug Ellis and his chocolate coated football club. He will make a fortune and do you know what we are all extras
paulmacadelaide
I take it that the comments at the end are from Mr Fear? Is that just wishful thinking or insider knowledge? If it's insider knowledge then I'm happy to wait until the end of the week without checking the internet every 5 minutes. Might even get some work done!
Cheshire Villan
I bet doug Ellis wont sell because he is proberly thinking that were all saying we want ellis instead of we want Ellis out
Christo
whats to stop another buyer purchasing 39% of shares which then means they have the majority and then telling Doug to f-off?
Im sure if a buyer wanted to purchase shares some suppoters would be more than happy to sell up. Does Petchey want to sell aswell? If they actaully have the money they should do what the Glazers did as do a PROPER takeover...i cant believe i actaully felt sorry for Doug a week ago
son_of_cher
Please can we forget the takeover !!! Its getting even more boring than Eastenders now, and just as obvious where the storyline is heading. Peggy (Doug) will get a new bar manager (O'Neill), then Jim Branning (Aitken) wont get on with the new gaffer so he'll quit his bottle washing job... meanwhile, the latest long haired barmaid (Baros) wont do her job properly and will be shown the door, leaving room for new faces at the Queen Vic (VP)................ Yawn...
lil_blues_fan
cheshire villan, actually wished I'd not said that, I just can't see how he can possibly survive much longer, the money men are circling and it is only a matter of time. I've got my moet chandon being chilled and a man sized box of hankies as I intend to cry like a little baby. Can always use the bottle to hit myself into oblivion if he does stay!
The Fear
lol lil_blues_fan. Not seen Eastenders for years but thats the funiest post of the week so far. Ok I know its only Monday...
greyhound
I agree with Mr Fear (who prob has more insider gossip), the sale will surely go through, it is purely a matter of how long Doug makes everyone wait. He won't go quietly, and the club can still be sold:
(a) after the season has started
(b) after the transfer window has closed
(c) ...At Christmas.
They are going to have to prize that old sod Ellis out of Villa Park with a shovel.
Maybe Ellis wants a month of Villa's current squad getting better results under Aitken before he goes?
Of course, Ellis opposed Aitken coming in initially when O'Leary was negotiating his new contract, didnt he?
paranoid_ormandroyd
I can confirm I have absolutely no insider gossip.
tylervilla
I do not class it as insider gossip but I can confirm that at just after 3.30 this afternoon (Monday) there were several, suited men in the club shop at Villa Park. They were American and they were questioning staff on issues involving the store. The questions included 'what are your best selling lines' and 'when are your busiest periods'? It may be something and nothing but interesting nontheless. I would have preferred if they asked if we sold crowbars, in order for them to prise out you know who, but we can only hope can't we?
voiceoftheholte
The fact seems to remain that Ellis really doesn't want to sell, and if as has recently been the case interested parties have raised their heads above the parrapets, he is trying to impose so many caviats, as to delay, indeed discourage negotiations, so that he can remain ensconced in his own tired little empire. Time for hostile bids pretty soon methinks!
fatloser
Let's hope he ain't got a parashoot on if he does get chucked out the window. Come on Randy
Burnsy
What happens if ellis drops dead any time soon!!!! I think his wife will probably take over!
samtozer
Get your money on Curbishley taking the helm under Doug in October. We've seen it all before. Curbs can keep us up on £2m a year. Same old Villa. I'm definitely buying a Dagenham and Redbridge season ticket. Photo's to follow.
evoflash
It will happen, maybe not over night but it will happen. I feel there will be an anouncement this week. Whether the anouncement concerns a new manager or a new concortium entering the fray - who knows - but one thing is for sure - I'll feel this take over is for real - no matter how much Ellis procrastinates when Lerner gets serious Ellis will go - you can only mess with these guys so much.
Steve64k
said it before and say it again.. il believe it when i see it
mcgoo
I'm afraid I agree with tylervilla. I keep hoping that I've read Doug all wrong over this latest takeover talk, but somehow I dont think I have. I cant see him selling his overall control of the club. He's way too long in the tooth to change his ways and beliefs now, and he still firmly believes that he is Mr. Aston Villa, and will be until the day he dies.
glensider
I too can confirm what voiceoftheholte said earlier we we're in the corner flag and lo and behold in walks deadly and a couple of ya nks in suits all sat down and looking like they we're enjoying their dinner come on randy
johnh1982
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