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Lerner - Disrespect - Shambles

I've not done this before, but this statement has to be repeated and you have to think of the implications of what is going on.

Doug Ellis is Chairman of Aston Villa plc. That means he has a duty to all shareholders. He is trying to sell the club and will make a personal fortune BUT STILL he wants to stay in power and expects a billionaire to report to him.


Joint statement from Aston Villa Shareholders Association and Villa Fans Combined.

The never ending saga of Mr Ellis seems to know no bounds, unless groups interested are willing to bow and scrape to our so called 'Mr Aston Villa` no matter how much money they have got or how good they would be for the club, they will have no chance of wrestling power away from one very destructive and sad individual.

Today`s events only go to illustrate just how farcical the situation is, not only has Mr Ellis let Aston Villa down but also the board of AVFC plc have let us down to a man for not controlling the 'chairman`.

Randy Lerner came to England with the intention of bidding for Aston Villa. His advisors and himself had been in contact with VFC and the Shareholders Association in order to gauge the fans feelings and they showed a great willingness to listen. There can`t be many billionaires in the world that would treat 'simple fans` with that level of respect.

Our information is that Mr Lerner had a meeting with Mr Ellis today that was described as 'farcical` because Mr Ellis tried to jostle for position and play one group off against another.

Mr Lerner had the funds in place and was willing to offer the full asking price. What he was not prepared for was the level of disrespect that Mr Ellis showed and was stunned to the point of walking out when Ellis said to Mr Lerner:

'Once you have bought the club, you will report to me.`

So not only does Mr Ellis want a kings ransom for his shares, he also wants to remain king.

Mr Ellis, by the time this is all finished, I think you will find out that you will be reporting to the fans, I think you should be prepared for a massive backlash as you have reduced our club to a farce for your own selfish ends.

You are not Mr Aston Villa, you are the Menace of B6 and I suggest you step aside before the start of the season or see what a Villa Park scorned really looks like.

(Please note, we haven`t and won`t endorse any bids or approaches, our fear is that if Mr Ellis treats one group with so much obvious potential and funding in this way, then he will treat them all the same. Instead of new owners and a top new manager, we could face a new season with an ailing 'chairman` and the 14th managerial victim).

Jonathan Fear, Chairman of The Aston Villa Shareholders Association.

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Date:Thursday July 27 2006

Time: 8:25AM

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I find it difficult to believe that a New York lawyer was put off by this and did not just laugh in the face of Ellis. Once the club is sold Ellis, will have no power. End of story. So what was the real problem? Seems to me that we must support Neville. Sven at Villa? What a joke, the bloke is hopeless and did nothing for England that anyone else couldn't do. Looks like the best choice is someone who cares for the club.
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27/07/2006 08:31:00

Have Villa shareholders organisations got any chance of making Ellis accountable?
Steve W
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27/07/2006 08:32:00

It doesn't make it any more believable second time around. This guy has money and a proven track record in sport and big business. Yet he isn't good enough for Doug Ellis. Doug's criteria for new owners, was that they had the money and drive to take the club forward. From what I've heard about Lerner that is exactly what he's got. Ellis is determined to hold the club back in any way he can. He's been doing it for 30 years, so why stop now??! I suppose it was a bit much to ask for this to run smoothly and for him to slip away quietly
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27/07/2006 08:38:00

Reading between the lines in Neville's interview on Sky Sports, he didnt seem to rule out Ellis being involved, if anything, he seemed to be hinting that Ellis would be still at the club in a position not too dissimilar to the role he has now...... Not what any of you want I believe. Does seem that DD has no intention of leaving the club, even if he does sell up!!!! What a mess.
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27/07/2006 08:53:00

He actually said he would like to give him a life presidency!!! What a farce!
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27/07/2006 08:55:00

Randy obviously was not briefed that Doug is a laugh a minute and is always cracking a good joke. Come back Randy he was only kidding! Buy the club Randy, wheel Ellis into the Holte End at Half Time 'to get to know the fans' and strangely I think you will never have to worry about him again.
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27/07/2006 09:13:00

I agree with Gordonsleftboot, why would anyone with a legitimate interest in the club be put off by this? Im just starting to worry incase Sven ends up at the club.
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27/07/2006 09:15:00

That man is driving me to drink! The words Nero, fiddling and Rome burning come to mind. On the other hand there is the Sven factor - a Swedish version of DOL! The only plus side I can imagine is that Sven would not be involved if there wasn't a huge amount of money being put forward. I can't see him operating on a budget. I'll go and get my Beckham shirt printed.
Cheshire Villan
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27/07/2006 09:40:00

Why not make Ellis president if it means he'll give up power. All it means is a lifetime of waving to fans and cameras from the director's box. And to be fair to Ellis, despite his (very)many failings, he has kept AVFC debt free and invested in land arround Villa Park, that is why the club is such an attractive proposition, along with the potential in terms of fan base and catchment area coupled with our history. So let him have his moment of glory. As the old saying goes, "There is no point in cutting your nose off to spite your face" Maybe Neville's not so stupid!!!
Villain Of The North
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27/07/2006 10:21:00

But the question will always remain as to whether Ellis is pulling the strings behind the scenes. Particularly in light of what has come out about his meeting with Lerner. Can you really see Doug just waving to cameras and being an ambassador after he has controlled every aspect of the club for so long? IMHO, he has to go if new owners come in
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27/07/2006 10:24:00

do we know how long doug has got to accept/reject the bid from Neville?
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27/07/2006 10:27:00

I would agree with you VOTN if all he wanted was a ceremonial position. But that's not what Ellis asked for.
Steve W
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27/07/2006 10:32:00

Im gonna get the sack at this rate - I cant keep off the football sites, hungering for any sign of movement. PLEASE DOUG - AGREE TO SELL TO SOMEONE NOW, but maybe not to Sven!
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27/07/2006 10:38:00

SSN said last night that Neville could hear from Rothschilds as early as this morning as to whether or not his bid has been accepted. Needs to happen quickly so we can get the new manager in before the season starts. Amongst all of this Ellis-engineered mess, there is a football team getting ready for a new season
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27/07/2006 10:39:00

Steve W, I know that that is not what Ellis asked for, but that appears to be what Neville is offereng him, so let's not just dismiss it just to spite Doug when it might well be the only way to achive change.
Villain Of The North
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27/07/2006 10:43:00

I hope that was all Neville was offering VOTN but I wasn't sure - he was waffling on a bit! If it was I wouldn't dismiss it and like you I would think it worth it to achieve what we all want
Steve W
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27/07/2006 10:53:00

We need to know more about the At-hole bid.....anyone got any info? who's his backers?
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27/07/2006 10:58:00

I suppose that, in the end, it will be worth whatever it takes to get rid of Herbert. The "Life long Villa fan" Neville bid worries me though. His previous backers, the Comer brothers, obviously had no interest in football. Their interest seemed to be solely what development land might come with the deal. Further, there never seemed to be any suggestion of any money being available, for team strengthening etc, other than the amount needed to buy the shares. What do we know about his new consortium? Nothing. How much money do they have behind them? Are they seriously interested in AV as a football club rather than just an asset stripping opportunity? As with all real Villa fans, I see only doom and gloom in all this until we know more.
chocolate teapot
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27/07/2006 11:08:00

Long time lurker, first time poster - but that senile old idiot has pushed me over the edge. I hate that he's reduced me to wishing ill of someone, but evidently thats the only way he's leaving. Regarding the bids, I guess the thing with Lerner was that information is readily available - billionaire football franchise owner, with Neville's it's unclear, but I don't think you can blame him too much for playing his cards to his chest, he wouldn't and indeed shouldn't advertise to other clubs how much financial backing he has - and I wouldn't read too much into his pandering to Doug, it's clear that the man's ego needs some massaging and if that's what it takes to get control then throw him out so be it, I doubt any new backers would "really" allow a 82 year old senile fool with delusions of grandeur any real influence.
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27/07/2006 11:17:00

Just a quick thought, maybe Ellis is totally sain but when he went in for bypass surgery, they forgot to connect it back up, ergo, his heart is still bypassed. :o(
Villain Of The North
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27/07/2006 11:24:00

If true then this sums Doug up. Now being sold by Ellis on behalf of Ellis. The man has no love for the club whatsoever and I wouldn't even like to see the *****-stained tyrant in a ceremonial role. I hope that, if this is all true, it is widely reported and investigated. And also where the hell is Tommy Sorenson?!>
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27/07/2006 11:37:00

may i make a request....dont scramble to buy season tickets expecting martin o'neil and wealthy new owners. This could all be a plot by Ellis to sell tickets. The boycott must remain untill he is gone officially. No tickets, no merchandise, no nothing. No more money to doug.
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27/07/2006 11:54:00

The Times are reporting that if Neville sucedes he will not only bring in O'Neill as manager but Graham Taylor as chairman. I think that would be superb, especially if Doug stays on in some kind of position as Taylor has shown that he gets on ok with Doug but is not willing to take any crap from him. Taylor's football home is VP and he has become a great statesman for the game. He's past it as a manager but still has alot to offer. If this is true and Neville can provide reasonable investment funds (not looking for 100s of millions) then bring it on Mr Neville.
Villain Of The North
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27/07/2006 11:57:00

You keep writing them and I will keep supporting them.
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27/07/2006 12:07:00

Good point from VOTN. I'm not sure any Villa fans are look for millions and millions of pounds from potential owners. All I want, personally, is to see SOME form of investment in the team, and some form of progress year on year
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27/07/2006 13:15:00

interesting video interview with Neville on BBC website
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27/07/2006 13:21:00

more time passing and no news on fresh bids.....does this mean Neville consortium is looking like the one?
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27/07/2006 13:23:00

I see in today's FT that Life long Villa fan Neville says he "would look to leverage Villa's assets in order to generate cash". In other words borrow. So no new money coming in, just raising cash by borrowing. hmmmmm
chocolate teapot
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27/07/2006 14:32:00

Any return for Graham Taylor has to be a mighty step in the right direction. He knows the club inside out and loves the Villa - would involve the fans, step up moves to get closer to the community and his eye to detail is second to none. I don't think there's too many of us surely who would oppose his return? Of course, this is all talk though. Yesterday showed us that Doug Ellis is acting for Doug Ellis again..
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27/07/2006 14:35:00

Lerner didnt come over here on Wednesday to play silly games. He came to conclude a deal, a deal that he obviously thought was progressing along the right lines. Obviously the old man, batteries returned from his sojourn cruising the Med, decided to start messing the guy around by introducing new stipulations that were always obviously going to be unacceptable to Lerner. This is the guy (Ellis) who tells us over and over that he only has the best interests of the club at heart, and will only consider selling to someone capable of taking the club up to the next level. B/S. Lerner met every criteria as far as we are all aware. Ellis has no intention of letting go.
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27/07/2006 14:53:00

If he'd done his home work he would of been prepared for Dougs antics. Whoever meets with Doug has to be willing to play his little mind games.
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27/07/2006 16:44:00

Given the reports that Lerner's intrest may not be dead, maybe he is playing mind games with Doug!!!!
Villain Of The North
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27/07/2006 23:12:00


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