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Same Colours, Different Attitude

Ive been prompted to post a new thread after seeing West Ham splash out a bundle of money over the last 6-7 months compared to our nil outlay at present.

Thats right West Ham, only back in the Premiership for 1 season after 2 years out. The same West Ham that was in so much debt when they went down they had to sell all the best players for peanuts compared to our spotless accounts which show no debt. The same West Ham that until only recently were getting crowds of 25,000 compared to our average of 35,000 over the last few years, the same West Ham that have only been in the top flight for 8 or 9 years out of the whole of the Premiership compared to our ever present status. The same West Ham that beat us twice last season quite comfortably as well despite having players who cost peanuts and are mostly from the lower leagues. The same West Ham who have young hungry and fit players who are prepared to run through a brick wall for the cause.

They have spent 7m on Ashton, 3m on Mears, 2m on Carlton Cole, Lee Bowyer for peanuts and have just had a 4m bid for Chhimbonda turned down. We on the other hand and have done absolutely bugger all despite having our worst season ever.

It beggars belief and Im starting to realise that this season coming will be one hell of a fight to stay in the division never mind improving on last season.

Im angry I really am yet the Chairman says that were heading in the right direction. I d hate to see us if we were heading in the wrong direction!

So comparing the 2 clubs we should be the ones spending money on new players and West Ham should be grateful they have survived in the Premiership and now start moving on to try and establish themselves as a regular top flight club. Instead they are showing all the ambition to want to do well and we are showing all the ambition you would expect when you have a Chairman who has done very little positive in his 30 year reign.

Article by whtaylor




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Date:Thursday July 6 2006

Time: 10:09AM

Your Comments

Absolutely spot on. However, it just shows what a good manager can do for a team built on peanuts. We wouldn't be having any debate at all if we had a young, hungry manager who cared about the club like they do at West Ham. Over the years in the Premiership, plenty of clubs have done well on a tight budget. Charlton immediately spring to mind. And the reason they have done well is down to the manager's ability to work with what he has got. So as much of problem Ellis is, has been and will continue to be, our immediate concern should be the removal of that sc*m bag O'Leary. He simply isn't up the job and he must go if we are to stand any chance of staying up this season
DougInABox
villa need a turnaround of spurs proportions, forget west ham they are the joke of london. the only way villa will get on a par with the teams higher up the league is to buy some good young players at nice prices.
elmo85
DougInABox, you say it all!!!! Doug is a problem but I beleive his main problem is not being tight but in fact his lack of ambition and leadership qualities. A change in this might just attract a better quality of manager. As it stands we have DOL who is in my opinion, possibly the worst manager in the prem right now and also the worst manager at VP since Dr. Joe (and at least he didn't insult the fans and try to shift blame to anyone but himself)
Villain Of The North
Not a Villa fan but my mate is and he tells me that there are section of the Villa support that back Ellis. I find that incredible.

Your No 1 problem has to be Ellis. The buck stops with him. With your potential Vills should not have suffered the way they have over the past years. A succession of managers point the finger at one man only.

Get rid of Ellis and the next man/consortium will surely sedn DOL packing.

One last thought. My mate has not renewed his season ticket. He has held a season ticket every season since 1977. Interesting to see you getes next year.
cropped
eillis is rubbish agreed, but does anyone really trust our current manager to spend money wisely??
andrew144
Yes I trust him to spend money wisely. In the few occasions that he has been backed by Ellis, he has bought 2 international defenders with champions league experience and an international world class striker and former golden boot winner. it is when scrambling for bargains that SOME of his transfer dealings havent been huge successes. Remember, Robinson Parker and Beattie were all prepared to come to Villa before ELLIS refused to allow the club to compete.
GaztonVilla
An honest piece of writing that bought a tear to my eye!! http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_nested.php?797421||1
Driz
West Ham fans complained for years about their board - and with good reason. But as far asI know the board that took them to meltdown is still there. Our chairman is too old and stubborn to learn the lessons they have.
Steve W
It seems that everyone agrees, only one man is too blame. Doug Ellis made his money in the 70s and is still stuck in that era. The Chairman needs to lead by example if all he is doing is taking a pay check, all the players will do is do the same. He should have passion about what he is doing have a plan and stick with it. He has no plan. He should also command respect and chastise a manager who does not embrace the fans, we pay everyones wages! I hope someone is going to wake up before it is too late.
NY Villa
yes we need to get rid of doug, hes past it, and yes we need 2 get rid of DOL but if we get a new board n DOL goes then hu will replace him? venables wont, svens off 2 jamaca n i cnt think of many others at the min.
No.1_villan
A very good article. Its very sad that writings such as this piece do not cross the desk of Messrs Ellis or Stride, to enable them to read the honest and heartfelt views of an everyday supporter. What they have allowed this club to become (and I include Stride because he has never raised a voice in disagreement to the old man and his policies) is nothing short of criminal. Great piece of writing whtaylor.
glensider
Look at DOL when he played reminded of a brick wall, nothing got through him but boring, boring, boring except fot the moss growing. Ellis is the old private school headmaster that stares at the pictures of the stars of the 80's who hasn't been out of his office to find the school is now co-ed. The two go hand in hand. Take Pardew with limited funds he built a platform and now he is building on that, not with a couple of big signings but with some shrewd investments and a ton of experience to call on. Take Carlton Cole and put him under the wing of Teddy Sheringham for a while a better player will emerge. Wigan don't play in the C&B but there is another example. Villa have always been a good steady team and once a team to be very wary of, like Bolton are now, another example. It appears that the money that comes in is stashed away for a rainy Ellis retirement day, his comment if DOL wants to buy he has to sell, hello that is not a statement of intent for the up and up, that is a Sunderland statement of a year ago and look what happened. Sorry guys, best of luck.
TeddyLyon
elmo85 - you talk crap on more than one site it seems. west ham the joke of london you say !!!!! not on the last day of the previous season we weren't ........... 2-1 should have been 5 ........... have your got a list of excuses for next season yet when spudz fail yet again ???
Carl1966
 

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