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Villa - Give O'Leary A Chance

If I make a mistake at work the first thing I want to do is make up for it and not let someone else have to get me out the s***.

Surely David O'Leary knows that this season has not been good at all and will want the chance to put it right next season? After all it is his doing this season so he should be the one who gets us back on track and turn us around.

Why should it be left for Alan Curbishley or Martin O'Neill or whoever to have to pick up the pieces of the current mess?

For me, and I know I will take stick for this, I reckon we give DOL another season to put things right.

As I say I believe that he has only had one bad season out of three and within those three he had a very good season to start off with. Given the injuries we had, last season was a success for me even though it didn't feel like it at the time (I'd certainly swap it for this season that's for sure).

So out of three seasons he has given us our best finish for four4 years, an average season of midtable and the worst finish in our Premiership history in the process offloading around 20 players and bringing in a similar amount at a cost of around 1.5m per player.

He has also had to rely on kids to get us out of the mire something no other premiership club has had to rely on save for Boro who have also brought in a hell of a lot of other players on bigger money and bigger wages that we pay.

I'm with DOL on this. Whoever is in charge nothing will change and we will be stuck with the same problems due to a lack of funds and ambition/forward thinking.

By WH Taylor

Some of the answers on the message board to this post included:

Was BFR JNR Lets face it we are not a bottom six side, and for that DOL should go. But we are not top 6 either, so for that Doug should go. But as soon as 5pm comes on Sunday i expect a lot of changes at the club, if not we are doomed.

Arrono7 Like I said yesterday if for no other reason than to raise fans spirits and hopes then he has to go this summer. I can see what your saying, even if I don't agree with it all, but there is such depression and despair with everything Villa at the moment that even a short term fix of booting DOL out is going to give the fans a shot in the arm and a chance for us to raise ourselves a little. With little hope of HDE departing anytime soon enough I cant see any other way of such a quick fix as a new manager and fresh hope.

OoahPaulMcgrath I agree with you about the managerial merry-go-round but DOL is not the person to stay. If we can get Martin O' Neill or someone who is actually good at management then it would be a good idea to back them for the longer term. However, DOL is not good at management so we should sack him.

Fletch I would like to see the back of David O`Leary if we could make sure the next manager IS better. Lets face it that won`t be too hard. Newcastle, Fulham, Middlesbrough, Everton ?Villa ? and Charlton from the Premiership might be involved in the managers merry go round. Add in a few new foreign newcomers and it should boost early season ticket sales.........Not. Martin O`Neil is my current choice, but you never know who might become available, soon ?

WH Countered: That's the thing isn't it, you only keep a manager long term if he achieves something in his 1st couple of seasons as your prepared to give him a chance then yet if he fails in the 1st 2 years you want him out and could never think of it being long term. Well what is to say that DOL couldn't reproduce his 1st season next season and make us all happy again? Everyone expects us to get worse and repeat this season but there is nothing stopping us from pulling our bloody finger out and putting in a season like the one we had 2 seasons back. I suppose I'm desperately looking for arguments to keep some stability and see what happens rather than do what we always do and sack the manager which hasn't exactly been beneficial over the years. Yes we have had a crap season but does that automatically mean the manager has to go? I say give him till Xmas, see what he does in the summer and the 1st half to the season and then decide. If we had a good start to the season then people would quickly forget about the poor season just had. After all its a results business and had DOL said these things when we were winning nobody would have give a monkies but as he has said them when results are poor people jump on him no matter what he does and everything is his fault.

The Fear Applaud a great deal - mostly everything in fact - that you say. The sticking point for me - and it is the only sticking point (nothing to do with the poor football etc) is the fact he has lied to the fans and press PLUS he had a go at the fans and has argued with some behind him throughout this season. I find that hard to stomach. THEN you get him twice saluting to Doug after local derby victories. This is the man who is holding back DOL, the fans, the club etc. SO what is that puerile gesture all about? Especially when he tells the press etc how difficult it is to work for the man. I think he has played the politics impossibly badly. If he is here for the start of the season, I hope fans settle back and give him a chance again, but how likely is that if we go on a bad run? Can't remember another manager becoming so unpopular so quickly and deflecting so much blame from the chairman. Mess from top to bottom really isn't it?




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday May 5 2006

Time: 10:23AM

Your Comments

I'm afraid his obfuscating and deception and his lack of tactical and transfer nous has forever cast him as a cretin in my eyes and nothing can ever change that view. UTV
mtones
I'm afraid his obfuscating and deception and his lack of tactical and transfer nous has forever cast him as a cretin in my eyes and nothing can ever change that view. UTV
mtones
The simple fact is that despite injuries we have still been able to field a team all season that is stronger than the likes of Charltgon and Wigan. DOL has not been able to either motivate or organize the team and this in itself means that he is not up to the job. If he had more money he would probable do a better job but then wouldn't we all. Even with lots of cash Ranieri was not able to win the prem and I doubt that O'Leary would, but a manager with more ability, Mourinio, has managed to not only win, with the same resources that Ranieri had, but also retain the title. I'm afraid that O'Leary has had his chance and the poor football should have nothing to do with the players he has. I remember, all those years ago, when Forest were relegated, they played good, attractive football to the last day, they just did't have the quality of players needed, but their manager got them playing good football. PS. I'm not saying that Ranieri is a bad manager, just that Mourinio is better.
Villain Of The North
The simple fact is that despite injuries we have still been able to field a team all season that is stronger than the likes of Charltgon and Wigan. DOL has not been able to either motivate or organize the team and this in itself means that he is not up to the job. If he had more money he would probable do a better job but then wouldn't we all. Even with lots of cash Ranieri was not able to win the prem and I doubt that O'Leary would, but a manager with more ability, Mourinio, has managed to not only win, with the same resources that Ranieri had, but also retain the title. I'm afraid that O'Leary has had his chance and the poor football should have nothing to do with the players he has. I remember, all those years ago, when Forest were relegated, they played good, attractive football to the last day, they just did't have the quality of players needed, but their manager got them playing good football. PS. I'm not saying that Ranieri is a bad manager, just that Mourinio is better.
Villain Of The North
To be fair to O'Leary there has been alot of injuries, but there is no excuse for the lack of tactics, passion and the lies
Bobbymsb
To be fair to O'Leary there has been alot of injuries, but there is no excuse for the lack of tactics, passion and the lies
Bobbymsb
Crikey !! It looks like you are in a catch 22 situation. Half of you don't think he should stay because of his lack of tactical nous and motivational skills, and others believe he should be given another year because it's down to lack of fund and injuries. The question is, if he went, who do you think would want to come in and could they do any better? It'll be interesting to read your replies.
FEn_100
Crikey !! It looks like you are in a catch 22 situation. Half of you don't think he should stay because of his lack of tactical nous and motivational skills, and others believe he should be given another year because it's down to lack of fund and injuries. The question is, if he went, who do you think would want to come in and could they do any better? It'll be interesting to read your replies.
FEn_100
i think your right he should stay one more season to see what hes got in him.
jono_forest
i think your right he should stay one more season to see what hes got in him.
jono_forest
Stick with him, at least until a new owner/board moves in. I just cant see any manager of quality being attracted to a Villa Park vacancy right now. Too much uncertainty surrounding the future of the club. Then again, I accept that I'm very much in the minority, and the question has to be, will Ellis bow to the wishes of the very vast majority? After all, he's got season tickets that need selling.
glensider
Stick with him, at least until a new owner/board moves in. I just cant see any manager of quality being attracted to a Villa Park vacancy right now. Too much uncertainty surrounding the future of the club. Then again, I accept that I'm very much in the minority, and the question has to be, will Ellis bow to the wishes of the very vast majority? After all, he's got season tickets that need selling.
glensider
 

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