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Ellis's Scheming And Bribery

Sack another manager, Ellis off the hook, will the problem go away?

NO.

Of course it won't.

Why can't fans see this?

Nothing changed much from before last night, we had Mellberg back, dominated the first half and but for some decent saves, and poor striking went in 0-0. They changed their formation, our midfield disappears and holds off a player running into space, he crosses, our captain holds off and off against a player he must have played against a million times and one shot one goal.

Even then with them on top we break away Barry allowed a more advanced role does superbly to beat two players shoots, hits the target and Phillips scores from the rebound, off side.

Relegation suddenly becomes a reality according to some.

Could O'Leary have done more? Could anyone have done more?

No an emphatic NO.

The problem stems from a summer in which promises were made and not kept. From a January transfer window where promises were not kept, from a manager who planned a campaign based on rules and promises that were changed at the whim of his Chairman, and ruined by not being able to play his first XI even in the death throws of the season.

I can remember the uproar towards the end of last season when O'Leary suggested that the youth coming through just weren't good enough, well he was right they haven't been, Ridgewell has been an unmitigated disaster and Samuel hasn't been far behind. Even Moore has shown all the good and bad qualities of his brother, on his day he's as good as the best, the other 95% of the season he's not even ordinary. Thankfully the same can't be said for Gaby who like Davis last season looks to be the genuine article.

Sorensen excluded, every top player including Davis has suffered some form of long term injury, Berger and Phillips as a result didn't provide the sort of long term off the bench security they were bought for. Laursen remains the biggest setback to the team, although like Bouma, I'm still not totally convinced of his long term Premiership credentials. Dj2 and Berson remain O'Leary's flagellum, huge disappointments in a side in desperate need of them both, but when you have funds one day and need to sell players to fund transfers the next its hard to plan consistently especially when your main failure has been to have carried out the Chairman's plans to reduce squad sizes below manageable levels.

O'Leary's failure has nothing to do with player manipulation, with tactics, with motivation, he's shown in two previous seasons he can get results with poorer squads, his failure has been his high degree of naivety in following Ellis' requests to the letter and expecting Ellis to keep his part of the plan.

His own arrogance, in himself, has led him to alienate the one group who could have made this awful season bearable, the fans, he'd already alienated the media during his days at Leeds during the Woodgate and Co trials, and subsequent break-up of Leeds. Sadly he realised it too late and as a result will no doubt suffer come the last match of the season, especially if the miracle of St Andrews does occur and Blues manage to win their two remaining matches by enough goals, the full backlash of a highly frustrated fan base, most of whom fully understand he's not the cause just the symptom of one of the most diabolically incompetent men in modern day soccer.

I ask again though exactly what difference will a new manager bring?

Going on the latest comments little or no money will be available come the summer, so players will have to be sold to finance a rebuild of the team. Even assuming Baros, Mellberg, Sorensen, have good world cups, that Barry, Davis, Moore, Hendrie, DLC,Delaney, Angel have clubs interested enough to buy them what sort of manager will know without playing each player beforehand who to sell or keep?

What sort of manager would do so based on the knowledge that all money received, not only has to buy new replacements it also has to bring the squad up to a reasonable level?

Can we survive with a defence of Taylor, Samuel, Hughes, Ridgewell, Cahill, Laursen maybe and no cover?

NO.

So bringing in Unsworth, Stubbs quality players is going to help. No way, never in a million years.

How about the midfield? Is a new manager going to get more out of Whittingham, Gardener, Berger, assuming he doesn't retire, McCann who should retire, or is he going to find for next to nothing some 3 to 4 new finds for nowt?

Dream on if you think that's likely.

Now up front, with luck we'll still have Phillips, Gaby and maybe Moore. Good enough for a Premiership survival campaign you must be joking. Maybe this new managerial genius will find 2 to 3 players here too capable of scoring 10-15 goals a season each against the likes of anyone above us presently in the Premiership.

Maybe I can't believe its possible I really can't.

So where is the hope for next season?

Can O'Leary or any other manager turn things around. If no major player is sold and another run of injuries like last season doesn't occur maybe, but that's not what's going to happen is it. O'Leary must be the sacrificial lamb, someone like Royle or lower a Division unknown will after a much prolonged search as is the Ellis way, not do much better, he just won't have time or money or I'd guess any backing from the remains of the squad.

One thing is certain though, come the season start, no matter what happens, player change, manager change or whatever, the usual suspects in the fan pool will be shouting loud their expectations of a top 5 finish, of being able to compete for Distin, Ronaldinho, and their likes, of blaming Ellis for the lack of funds and VFC for not representing the fans. How right have they been proved, all ye who pooh poohed Jon Fear and his mate's efforts last season, so now we are going to organise an O'Leary shaming day eh, good luck, no doubt none of you will realise just how ridiculous you will appear to the masses, who to be honest don't really care anymore.

That in itself is a major marketing problem for Villa. If someone came in and stripped the club to its bare bones, and closed it down few where it really matters would care, they are so pissed with the continual merry go round of new manager whinging fans, failure, new manager, whinging fans and so on.

I won't be getting a season ticket next year no matter what Ellis's scheming and bribery have in store for the summer, I don't advise anyone else to either, not until after the AGM anyway.

You will of course Championship or no.

By avfc48




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Writer: J P Fear Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday April 26 2006

Time: 1:54PM

Your Comments

The cycle of managers frustrations have once again deflected where the main anger should be. DOL is my least favourite manager in years and his pr has been awful BUT my finger (middle) still points at Ellis, why would we trust him to bring in a new manager and why would a new manager come when it is clear there is no money for players in the summer?
The Fear
The cycle of managers frustrations have once again deflected where the main anger should be. DOL is my least favourite manager in years and his pr has been awful BUT my finger (middle) still points at Ellis, why would we trust him to bring in a new manager and why would a new manager come when it is clear there is no money for players in the summer?
The Fear
how about this then ???? DOL is obviously VERY silly as he was told not to touch Villa with a barge pole !!! who in what mind wants to replace him now after he came out with that comment ? and having seen how bad we really are
crosswesleyanchapel
how about this then ???? DOL is obviously VERY silly as he was told not to touch Villa with a barge pole !!! who in what mind wants to replace him now after he came out with that comment ? and having seen how bad we really are
crosswesleyanchapel
A bit strong there. For all of Dougs faults (and I agree there are many) I think the word bribery is tantamount to libel isn't it?
Andro1924
A bit strong there. For all of Dougs faults (and I agree there are many) I think the word bribery is tantamount to libel isn't it?
Andro1924
Not sure who Ellis has been bribing but I agree 100% with the sentiment of the article. The biggest problem at Villa Park is Ellis, not DOL. The second biggest problem is DOL. Changing DOL for a.n. other will lead us through the same cycle. Not sure where changing Ellis will take us but it's got to be better than this!
ooahPaulMcGrath
Not sure who Ellis has been bribing but I agree 100% with the sentiment of the article. The biggest problem at Villa Park is Ellis, not DOL. The second biggest problem is DOL. Changing DOL for a.n. other will lead us through the same cycle. Not sure where changing Ellis will take us but it's got to be better than this!
ooahPaulMcGrath
When will a majority of Villa fans either wake up to the fact that the buck stops with Ellis and / or show the passion to do something about it? Pains me to say this but Villa fans had their chance when VFC was at its active height a couple of years ago: to those of you (like me) who supported VFC, at least you tried; to the others - the overwhelming majority - who said or did nothing to support VFC and protest against Ellis, I'm afraid you had your chance.... if the time comes next season when we're looking down the barrel of relegation next year, you might find that there isn't a VFC mast around to pin your colours to....
Dropacog
When will a majority of Villa fans either wake up to the fact that the buck stops with Ellis and / or show the passion to do something about it? Pains me to say this but Villa fans had their chance when VFC was at its active height a couple of years ago: to those of you (like me) who supported VFC, at least you tried; to the others - the overwhelming majority - who said or did nothing to support VFC and protest against Ellis, I'm afraid you had your chance.... if the time comes next season when we're looking down the barrel of relegation next year, you might find that there isn't a VFC mast around to pin your colours to....
Dropacog
I hate the manager merry go round as much as anyone, but DOL has got to go.
danvilla2
I hate the manager merry go round as much as anyone, but DOL has got to go.
danvilla2
" very good article and very true in my opinion"
millers4eva
" very good article and very true in my opinion"
millers4eva
I agree that HDE is the main problem at VP but O'Leary is just inept, he has to go no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!
Villain Of The North
I agree that HDE is the main problem at VP but O'Leary is just inept, he has to go no matter what!!!!!!!!!!!!
Villain Of The North
I've said on this forum before that Doug's revenge on us, for not worshipping him, will be relegation. Let's be clear, the club's current state is not due to mis-management, it's a very deliberate act by a bitter old man. Get real boys, there will be no takeover and the only hope we have, if we are not to be relegated next season, is a FUNERAL. Harsh but true.
Stevew
I've said on this forum before that Doug's revenge on us, for not worshipping him, will be relegation. Let's be clear, the club's current state is not due to mis-management, it's a very deliberate act by a bitter old man. Get real boys, there will be no takeover and the only hope we have, if we are not to be relegated next season, is a FUNERAL. Harsh but true.
Stevew
haha imagine it was an evil scheme by Doug to get us relegated then then pop his clogs shortly after, you could make a film out of it! 'Revenge of Doug' showing in cinemas across the country soon!
son_of_cher
haha imagine it was an evil scheme by Doug to get us relegated then then pop his clogs shortly after, you could make a film out of it! 'Revenge of Doug' showing in cinemas across the country soon!
son_of_cher
I agree about not wanting D'OL to stay. I can't believe that he's happy with his current situation, as any reputation he may have had, has been shot to pieces. The same happened we GT, only we liked him. Any incoming manager will have the same problem, because with the current regime, the Villa managers job is practically impossible. Well that's my opinion anyway.
Bigwire McGuire
I agree about not wanting D'OL to stay. I can't believe that he's happy with his current situation, as any reputation he may have had, has been shot to pieces. The same happened we GT, only we liked him. Any incoming manager will have the same problem, because with the current regime, the Villa managers job is practically impossible. Well that's my opinion anyway.
Bigwire McGuire
If only the players had such passion! For me it all comes down to: Ellis doesn't sell - get a manager in who can play the bargain basement and motivate the players he has; if (unlikely) new owners come in, then maybe give DOL (for all his faults) a season. I reckon he's been completely ground down this season (maybe learning?) and may come out better at the end of it all. Or maybe I just remember that penalty in 1994?!
Beovilla
If only the players had such passion! For me it all comes down to: Ellis doesn't sell - get a manager in who can play the bargain basement and motivate the players he has; if (unlikely) new owners come in, then maybe give DOL (for all his faults) a season. I reckon he's been completely ground down this season (maybe learning?) and may come out better at the end of it all. Or maybe I just remember that penalty in 1994?!
Beovilla
it's just a *****in nightmare, no other words for it!!!
eltoro
it's just a *****in nightmare, no other words for it!!!
eltoro
But he will still get the sack. Roight?
guinless
But he will still get the sack. Roight?
guinless
I hear Ellis sounded like Darth Vader on Midlands news last night? Its really sad, he should be taking it easy at his age. I think that the club will announce that the take-over is history on Friday and in the program vs Sunderland, Doug will declare that he going back full time to running the club, in order to sort out the mess. How's the share price looking? That's usually an indication of anything imminent.
tarzan
I hear Ellis sounded like Darth Vader on Midlands news last night? Its really sad, he should be taking it easy at his age. I think that the club will announce that the take-over is history on Friday and in the program vs Sunderland, Doug will declare that he going back full time to running the club, in order to sort out the mess. How's the share price looking? That's usually an indication of anything imminent.
tarzan
McCann to retire, hmmm somehow I dont think so
avfc456
McCann to retire, hmmm somehow I dont think so
avfc456
DOL has in all probability learned a lot this season, and maybe will be a better manager because of it, but whether he has the opportunity to continue his career here at B6 is somewhat doubtful. It concerns me immensely that Ellis will in all probability oversee the appointment of yet another patsy, and himself continue in his role as Chairman and CEO. If that is indeed the case, then nothing will change, the cycle will begin again. A new manager will have to work with little cash and a worryingly small squad, and while the novelty factor might prove a basis for an early upturn in results, before too long we'll be right back where we are now. As far as I'm concerned, if Ellis remains, we might just as well keep DOL.
glensider
DOL has in all probability learned a lot this season, and maybe will be a better manager because of it, but whether he has the opportunity to continue his career here at B6 is somewhat doubtful. It concerns me immensely that Ellis will in all probability oversee the appointment of yet another patsy, and himself continue in his role as Chairman and CEO. If that is indeed the case, then nothing will change, the cycle will begin again. A new manager will have to work with little cash and a worryingly small squad, and while the novelty factor might prove a basis for an early upturn in results, before too long we'll be right back where we are now. As far as I'm concerned, if Ellis remains, we might just as well keep DOL.
glensider
CAN ANYONE BELEIVE THAT ELLIS INTERVIEW ON SKY?
tarzan
CAN ANYONE BELEIVE THAT ELLIS INTERVIEW ON SKY?
tarzan
 

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